https://twitter.com/zhoutong
EDIT: it would be interesting to know what the tokyo police will find out about the historie of some criminal actions related to mt.gox.
Topic: Statement about the suspect of recent Bitcoinica hack (Read 136158 times)
Happy birthday Zhou Tong!
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That's an interesting turn of events, but at this point I'd strongly advise reporting this to the police, will it be in China or where you reside currently, as it would protect you against problems that may arise later.
The condition of 「Bitcoinica will no longer pursue the case」 is not viable as Bitcoinica will be required to cause legal action if people attack it.
I do notice that the amount is significantly low compared to the initially stolen amount, especially in terms of BTC, and I don't see money laundering causing such a large loss.
Finally, by posting this publicly you also cut yourself from the possibility of not "pursuing the case" as doing so would likely result in you being considered accomplice should any involved party (including bitcoinica customer) decide to pursue the case anyway.
The condition of 「Bitcoinica will no longer pursue the case」 is not viable as Bitcoinica will be required to cause legal action if people attack it.
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USD: about $140,000 + $5000 frozen at AurumXchange (under SJ account)
BTC: about 20,000 BTC
BTC: about 20,000 BTC
I do notice that the amount is significantly low compared to the initially stolen amount, especially in terms of BTC, and I don't see money laundering causing such a large loss.
Finally, by posting this publicly you also cut yourself from the possibility of not "pursuing the case" as doing so would likely result in you being considered accomplice should any involved party (including bitcoinica customer) decide to pursue the case anyway.
Name: MagicalTux
Posts: 617
Activity: 617
Stolen Bitcoins = 617,000 BTC?
Is the actual number higher or lower?
I'm curious - how did he know that mtgox userid 5125 is Zhou Tong? Is there a list somewhere that matches users to the userids? I've been trying to track down another thief and I know their gox userid from the leaked data but I haven't seen a list of names. Did I miss it?
Also curious about this. Probably some by mathing balances and trasnactions? or maybe this information became public with the Mt Gox investigation?
But why? It's bitcoin related. I don't see the problem.
Thread got deleted from reddit lol
I'm curious - how did he know that mtgox userid 5125 is Zhou Tong? Is there a list somewhere that matches users to the userids? I've been trying to track down another thief and I know their gox userid from the leaked data but I haven't seen a list of names. Did I miss it?
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Published on Aug 16, 2015
New evidence of suspicious transactions, some linked to Zhou Tong. Check out the data yourself at the following links:
https://www.blockseer.com/g/63dtw2vOqka6
New evidence of suspicious transactions, some linked to Zhou Tong. Check out the data yourself at the following links:
https://www.blockseer.com/g/63dtw2vOqka6
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Evidence or no evidence, it shouldnt matter at all after reading the fact that he did business with a known criminal(Zhou even told us this).
What are your feelings on asking Kevin Mitnick for some advice on your company before going live?At the same time his website: http://www.sgitcoin.com/ under Disclaimer proudly states they dont encourage criminal activity.
I've never seen a single shred of evidence that SGITCOIN.COM was involved in any illegal activity.Why anyone still wants to believe anything comine from Zhou is remarkable.
I'm still not seeing any evidence, just lots of people butthurt at Bitcoinica LP who are looking for a scapegoat and using Zhou's eagerness for transparency against him. The most ridiculous party in all of this is AurumXChange who if it weren't for the fact that no one involved in bitcoinica wants an investigation, would be sued up the ass for the little stunt they pulled in that other thread.1) Discussing an active investigation carries a sentence of up to 10 years
2) Holding funds for more than 7 days without an active investigation is also illegal
3) Publicly discussing the details of their customers is unlawful as a breach of their customer privacy agreement
Even one of the confirming parties told me that they had -no- clue Roberto was going to be posting this stuff publicly as they -know- that is unlawful and potentially illegal. The only reason AurumXchange isn't commenting is because they finally figured out how screwed they are.
This is interesting! I've just connected Kevin Mitnick to the last name on the infamous Mt Gox email dump list:
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61020,durandallotd,[email protected],$1$USm.ejm9$vMrHga51inRwfR6q7OITy1
I will state publicly that I had 5k btc on bitcoinica and thats basically a majority of my wealth, which was accumulated trough hard work... Because I was having that much faith into bitcoins.
Why in the would you put ~US$38,000 into any kind of uninsured account? The FDIC exists for a reason, and I'm sure similar options exist elsewhere.
Why in the would you put ~US$38,000 into any kind of uninsured account? The FDIC exists for a reason, and I'm sure similar options exist elsewhere.
The important truths
I know who did it.
You may read this and think - this guy is a liar.
But I swear to whatever God you believe in - I know who did it.
Did..What?
After all that time, I forgot who we are chasing after..
Who stole the funds with the linode hack? Who wrecked Bitcoinica? Who?
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I know who did it.
You may read this and think - this guy is a liar.
But I swear to whatever God you believe in - I know who did it.
You may read this and think - this guy is a liar.
But I swear to whatever God you believe in - I know who did it.
That's great! Now...what are you going to do about it?
Not so cynical actually. It's a motive. On the other hand, Intersango have proven to be really really incompetent nevertheless, particularly in public relations.
I definitely don't think they can be absolved of responsibility. By their own admission, they discovered vulnerablities in Bitcoinica's platform and were actively seeking to be taken on in the role of security providers. They got what they wanted and cannot blame anyone else if they failed to perform adequate due diligence before becoming general partners of Bitcoinica LP. Given its problems and the fact that it was rapidly expanding, Bitcoinica needed a full-time commitment from its operators - as most growing start-ups do - and it didn't get it.
The question still arises, though, of whether the incompetence of Intersango just happened to be discovered by a random outsider or whether Bitcoinica's vulnerabilities were intentionally made known/exploited by someone with inside knowledge.
Not so cynical actually. It's a motive. On the other hand, Intersango have proven to be really really incompetent nevertheless, particularly in public relations.
Well, both ZT and to some extent Amir (genjix) wanted to make a fast pay back of the funds, which has been prevented by Donald and Patrick. So, if ZT offer to handle this would have not been denied by the this incapable consultancy, the theft would not have happened, because we would have had our money back since ages.
Yes, it's very convenient that Zhou Tong's criminal friend stole a huge sum from the Bitcoin reserves using a password that only Zhou Tong and a handful of other people knew to try, then converted them using one of Zhou Tong's e-mail accounts, just in time to make Zhou Tong the hero who could've saved everyone's money if only the evil Bitcoin Consultancy cabal had listened to him. Just ignore the bit where the thief converted a chunk of the money to Liberty Dollars and Zhou Tong tried to convert a very similar amount back shortly afterwards. Obviously this is all a concidence and Zhou's simply the unluckiest guy in the world rather than someone who's playing the forum like a fiddle.finally someone who can think.
I suspect the majority of people have thought the very same thing from the moment Zhou pulled out the "friend" and "relic collector" excuses but that they pretended to believe those stories in the hope that the funds would be returned if Zhou was allowed to appear to play hero.
If one was especially cynical, one would think that the timing of the Rackspace and MtGox intrusions was extremely convenient for anyone who had grudge against the Intersango guys and wanted to make them look especially incompetent.
Well, both ZT and to some extent Amir (genjix) wanted to make a fast pay back of the funds, which has been prevented by Donald and Patrick. So, if ZT offer to handle this would have not been denied by the this incapable consultancy, the theft would not have happened, because we would have had our money back since ages.
Yes, it's very convenient that Zhou Tong's criminal friend stole a huge sum from the Bitcoin reserves using a password that only Zhou Tong and a handful of other people knew to try, then converted them using one of Zhou Tong's e-mail accounts, just in time to make Zhou Tong the hero who could've saved everyone's money if only the evil Bitcoin Consultancy cabal had listened to him. Just ignore the bit where the thief converted a chunk of the money to Liberty Dollars and Zhou Tong tried to convert a very similar amount back shortly afterwards. Obviously this is all a concidence and Zhou's simply the unluckiest guy in the world rather than someone who's playing the forum like a fiddle.finally someone who can think.
Oh, there are more of us than you realize.
..."playing the forum like a fiddle"...that's it how it was!
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