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sr. member
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September 24, 2013, 02:41:20 PM
@ealfskillz

thanks! Good luck with your next bets!
EFS
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September 24, 2013, 01:28:04 PM
I want to thank BitcoinLiveBets board, they are open-minded. There was a situation about cancelled bets, they made a logical decision.

About sbrzol's accusation, I don't know why they should do fake bets. They are running serious business over here, they don't want other customers scared. I am playing in this site for more than a month and I am very glad how they handle problems. I hope they keep going like that.
sr. member
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September 24, 2013, 01:19:19 PM
I can't see normal bets, there are only live bets now. Did you remove them permanently or temporary? Let me know, thanks.


Edit: Now I can see normal bets again. I think it was a temporary situation.
Let me know if it's happen often so I can take care this rarely behaviour is not comming up again Wink

EDIT: We checked that and found out, that for a short time every hour the leagues are not visible during database cronjob. This is solved now.
EFS
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September 24, 2013, 12:45:40 PM
I can't see normal bets, there are only live bets now. Did you remove them permanently or temporary? Let me know, thanks.


Edit: Now I can see normal bets again. I think it was a temporary situation.
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sr. member
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September 24, 2013, 03:56:57 AM
@sbrzol we answered to all your questions. Also in this thread as also in a lot of private messages!


@all our Users

We are happy that more than 100Users play per day at the moment on our page! Thank You! We are openminded for wishes you have! Please tell us!

hero member
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September 23, 2013, 07:40:58 PM
first i sent this picture to bitcoinlivebets, but nothing happend

here is the evidence that bitcoinlivebets faked my account history, and added a false/fake bet to my account

they also modified my first 12 BTC withdrawal to 1.2  BTC and the second one 20.89 btc  to 2.089 btc

the last two columns (that i created, you can check it if you start from the button and add the stakes, winnings and loss) shows the current account balance at that moment , the false balance and the real one
if you  count with the faked 1.2 BTC  withdrawal amount then the balance will be 31,69 BTC before they added the fake bet to my history  with 29,601 stake ,  and so remain only 2,089 BTC  on my account

but if i count with the real amount 12 BTC then the account balance will be 20,89 BTC before that fake bet, what a suprise  my second requested withdrawal amount

or can it be only coincidence that  if i count that way the sums equals

hero member
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September 23, 2013, 04:18:28 PM
here is my betting account history  (i have screenshots too)

the first is the fake bet that i have never placed ( the time is also fake) ,
now i am tring to find out when was that match started and the odds showed up  .
perhaps bitcoinlivebets did not checked it and the time will prove my true ( please make a screenshot of their first post with attached images in here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinlivebetscom-stealing-all-my-winnings-30-btc-300044)


e most current betting slips are shown. Show all betting slips (max. 3 months)
Betting slip ID 6618 - einzel - submitted 19.09.2013, 19:46 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 20.5 Romeo, Caroline - Szupper, Marlies   o   -147
Stake: 29,601000 BTC (Bet by slip 29,601000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6609 - einzel - submitted 19.09.2013, 08:57 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 22.5 Becker, Benjamin - Olivetti, Albano   o   -105
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 5,850000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6598 - einzel - submitted 19.09.2013, 00:07 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Final Result (in sets - best of 3) Radwanska, Agnieszka - Cabeza Candela, Estrella   2:0   -400
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 3,750000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6597 - einzel - submitted 19.09.2013, 00:03 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 20.5 Meusburger, Yvonne - Cornet, Alize   u   -111
Stake: 2,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 2,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 3,800000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6567 - einzel - submitted 18.09.2013, 16:46 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
to 50.5 Nykobing F. Handboldklub - Sønderjyske HK   u   -116
Stake: 2,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 2,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6545 - einzel - submitted 18.09.2013, 13:56 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 18.5 Radwanska, Agnieszka - Cabeza Candela, Estrella   u   -133
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 5,250000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6515 - einzel - submitted 17.09.2013, 22:08 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 19.5 Elgin, Michail - Gulbis, Ernests   u   -118
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 5,550000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6514 - einzel - submitted 17.09.2013, 22:07 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Final Result (in sets - best of 3) Sikora, Adrian - Dzumhur, Damir   0:2   -200
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 4,500000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6469 - einzel - submitted 17.09.2013, 17:16 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 19.5 Lee, Ye-Ra - Pavlyuchenkova, Anastasia   u   -133
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 5,250000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6378 - einzel - submitted 16.09.2013, 16:45 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 18.5 Chan, Chin-Wei - Kirilenko, Maria   u   -123
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 5,430000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6376 - einzel - submitted 16.09.2013, 16:42 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Final Result (in sets - best of 3) Chan, Chin-Wei - Kirilenko, Maria   0:2   -333
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 3,900000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6351 - einzel - submitted 16.09.2013, 11:50 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 18.5 Radwanska, Agnieszka - Cadantu, Alexandra   u   -118
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 5,550000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6350 - einzel - submitted 16.09.2013, 11:49 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 18.5 Zakopalova, Klara - Jang, SU Jeong   u   -118
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 5,550000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6340 - einzel - submitted 16.09.2013, 01:52 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 21.5 Zhang, Shuai - Puchkova, Olga   u   -118
Stake: 1,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 1,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 1,850000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6338 - einzel - submitted 16.09.2013, 01:27 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 19.5 Karatsev, Aslan - Youzhny, Mikhail   u   -125
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC
Betting slip ID 6331 - einzel - submitted 15.09.2013, 22:26 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 18.5 Han, Sung-Hee - Dulgheru, Alexandra   u   -132
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC
Betting slip ID 5187 - einzel - submitted 04.09.2013, 13:30 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 18.5 Authom, Maxime - Montero, Jorge   o   110
Stake: 2,640000 BTC (Bet by slip 2,640000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC
Betting slip ID 5186 - einzel - submitted 04.09.2013, 13:27 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 21.5 Authom, Maxime - Montero, Jorge   u   -118
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 5,550000 BTC
Betting slip ID 5185 - einzel - submitted 04.09.2013, 13:24 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 18.5 Sherif, Sara - Stephenson, Francesca   u   -111
Stake: 2,210000 BTC (Bet by slip 2,210000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC
Betting slip ID 5184 - einzel - submitted 04.09.2013, 13:24 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 17.5 Sherif, Sara - Stephenson, Francesca   o   110
Stake: 2,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 2,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 4,200000 BTC
Betting slip ID 5119 - einzel - submitted 03.09.2013, 18:28 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 39.5 Youzhny, Mikhail - Hewitt, Lleyton   o   -111
Stake: 2,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 2,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 3,800000 BTC
Betting slip ID 5017 - einzel - submitted 02.09.2013, 19:51 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 20.5 Uchiyama, Yasutaka - Zhang, Zhizhen   u   -118
Stake: 1,140000 BTC (Bet by slip 1,140000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC
Betting slip ID 5016 - einzel - submitted 02.09.2013, 19:50 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 19.5 Uchiyama, Yasutaka - Zhang, Zhizhen   o   110
Stake: 1,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 1,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 2,100000 BTC
Betting slip ID 5015 - einzel - submitted 02.09.2013, 19:48 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 19.5 Moriya, Hiroki - Wang, Ruikai   u   -111
Stake: 2,200000 BTC (Bet by slip 2,200000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC
Betting slip ID 5014 - einzel - submitted 02.09.2013, 19:48 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 18.5 Moriya, Hiroki - Wang, Ruikai   o   110
Stake: 2,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 2,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 4,200000 BTC
Betting slip ID 4916 - einzel - submitted 02.09.2013, 10:55 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 39.5 Gasquet, Richard - Raonic, Milos   o   -111
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 5,700000 BTC
Betting slip ID 4867 - einzel - submitted 01.09.2013, 18:30 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
to 46.5 SC Pick Szeged - HC Metalurg   o   -118
Stake: 1,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 1,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 0,000000 BTC
Betting slip ID 4678 - einzel - submitted 31.08.2013, 16:58 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 38.5 Lopez, Feliciano - Raonic, Milos   o   -111
Stake: 1,500000 BTC (Bet by slip 1,500000 BTC), Possible winnings: 2,850000 BTC
Betting slip ID 4506 - einzel - submitted 30.08.2013, 00:12 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Puerto Rico - Brazil   1   -111
Stake: 3,000000 BTC (Bet by slip 3,000000 BTC), Possible winnings: 5,700000 BTC
Betting slip ID 4467 - einzel - submitted 29.08.2013, 18:15 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 20.5 Vekic, Donna - Halep, Simona   u   -133
Stake: 1,500000 BTC (Bet by slip 1,500000 BTC), Possible winnings: 2,630000 BTC
Betting slip ID 4466 - einzel - submitted 29.08.2013, 18:12 Uhr 
Partie   Tipp   Odds
Total number of games 19.5 Ivanovic, Ana - Dulgheru, Alexandra   u   -133
Stake: 1,500000 BTC (Bet by slip 1,500000 BTC), Possible winnings: 2,630000 BTC
hero member
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September 23, 2013, 04:08:48 PM
ther is no bookmaker in the world who accept 3000$  on an itf women match, where the tournament winner perhaps get lesser amount
Is that the reason you bet on this game or what do you want to tell us?
If somebody is betting 3 BTC but with 10 anonymous accounts we got the same like one bet with 30 BTC. Our risk management avoids matches with too high amounts (or too high possible wins), but in this case we accepted your bet like we do since one and a half week for a lot of leagues.

you know that i have never placed that bet and my withdrawals was 12 BTC and 20.89 BTC   , you should have logs/ip addresses , but you can fake everything

you can filter multiple account like others,  there is the blockchain info ,  you used it , this is the reason you can link my lost account and my new one


According to you sbrzol what is the largest bet you have made with this company?

3 BTC,   but i will share all my account history within 1 hour
hero member
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September 23, 2013, 04:08:01 PM

I think this doesn't come to an end. First you wrote you never made this bet slip, which came from your account, then you wrote that we pay not the full amount which I explained in detail with blockchain links on the other forum thread, what comes next?

after you send me only the 10% of the withdrawed amount  without any comment that i broke your rules, multiple accounts , "crawl" your page
i noticed that there is bet on my account that i have never placed,   you faked the time of my second withdrawal , (and both amounts )  and put the faked bet before the time of the second withdrawal

and after it i asked you what is this, you come up with i broke the rules, multiple accounts , "crawl" your page , and so you wont pay me out,
you told nothing about that heyy  you have a lost bet on your account to a noname tennis match and you almost put on it your  whole account
sr. member
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September 23, 2013, 04:03:29 PM
ther is no bookmaker in the world who accept 3000$  on an itf women match, where the tournament winner perhaps get lesser amount
Is that the reason you bet on this game or what do you want to tell us?
If somebody is betting 3 BTC but with 10 anonymous accounts we got the same like one bet with 30 BTC. Our risk management avoids matches with too high amounts (or too high possible wins), but in this case we accepted your bet like we do since one and a half week for a lot of leagues.

you know that i have never placed that bet and my withdrawals was 12 BTC and 20.89 BTC   , you should have logs/ip addresses , but you can fake everything

you can filter multiple account like others,  there is the blockchain info ,  you used it , this is the reason you can link my lost account and my new one


According to you sbrzol what is the largest bet you have made with this company?
sr. member
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September 23, 2013, 02:21:39 PM

you can filter multiple account like others,  there is the blockchain info ,  you used it , this is the reason you can link my lost account and my new one

and your rules forbid multiple account, or not?   you allowed others to make multiple accounts and bets?     

We found you by the kind of bets, because, by the way, we offered side bets accidently which shouldn't be offered anymore actually, but you used it, we paid it, you made a lot of Bitcoins with that issue. On the second account, we also paid you the requested roundabout 3 BTC which you earned with that. Are you sad we closed this bug and you didn't made more Bitcoins with that? Sometimes I am a little bit disappointed when people are getting so avidly. Of course we have to pay things like that if somebody is using this, we did. But it's not okay to claim we would insert bets which you did and lost.

in your first answer there is nothing about that false bet
only that i break the rules , multiple accounts and crawl the page

and now you changed your tactic and talking about those false bet

i think now everybody knows that you are lying
Even I don't understand exactly what are you trying to do.
You asked on the first question about your status of withdrawl, I answered that it is paid and please don't create more accounts and stop crawling our site. Not more. We even didn't close your account since you had open bets in your account, it was a simple information.
hero member
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September 23, 2013, 02:14:12 PM
in your first answer there is nothing about that false bet
only that i break the rules , multiple accounts and crawl the page

and now you changed your tactic and talking about those false bet

i think now everybody knows that you are lying
hero member
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September 23, 2013, 02:10:07 PM


15 minutes ago  on their homepage :

...

and your customers will confirm that your max bet. was 3 BTC until today,  but i am sure you will create some new bitcointalk.org users to confirm your side

Yes, I refreshed the english translation.
We have a few bet slips with a bet amount of several bitcoins. We started with that after users created a few multiple accounts to bet on the same game and we were thinking about if it's possible to increase the maximum bet on the main sports like Soccer, American Football and Tennis.


you can filter multiple account like others,  there is the blockchain info ,  you used it , this is the reason you can link my lost account and my new one

and your rules forbid multiple account, or not?   you allowed others to make multiple accounts and bets?    



sr. member
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September 23, 2013, 02:08:22 PM


15 minutes ago  on their homepage :

...

and your customers will confirm that your max bet. was 3 BTC until today,  but i am sure you will create some new bitcointalk.org users to confirm your side

Yes, I refreshed the english translation.
We have a few bet slips with a bet amount of several bitcoins. We started with that after users created a few multiple accounts to bet on the same game and we were thinking about if it's possible to increase the maximum bet on the main sports like Soccer, American Football and Tennis.

I think this doesn't come to an end. First you wrote you never made this bet slip, which came from your account, then you wrote that we pay not the full amount which I explained in detail with blockchain links on the other forum thread, what comes next?
hero member
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September 23, 2013, 02:07:10 PM
ther is no bookmaker in the world who accept 3000$  on an itf women match, where the tournament winner perhaps get lesser amount
Is that the reason you bet on this game or what do you want to tell us?
If somebody is betting 3 BTC but with 10 anonymous accounts we got the same like one bet with 30 BTC. Our risk management avoids matches with too high amounts (or too high possible wins), but in this case we accepted your bet like we do since one and a half week for a lot of leagues.

you know that i have never placed that bet and my withdrawals was 12 BTC and 20.89 BTC   , you should have logs/ip addresses , but you can fake everything

you can filter multiple account like others,  there is the blockchain info ,  you used it , this is the reason you can link my lost account and my new one




hero member
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September 23, 2013, 02:03:31 PM
After user requests, we increased our maximum bet amount on 9/17/2013 for most bet types and pre match bets. Soon we will extend the maximum for live bets, too.

15 minutes ago  on their homepage :

"Minimum bet: 0.001 BTC, maximum bet 3 BTC per bet combination"

now :

" Minimum bet: 0.001 BTC"

and your customers will confirm that your max bet. was 3 BTC until today,  but i am sure you will create some new bitcointalk.org users to confirm your side
sr. member
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September 23, 2013, 02:01:14 PM
ther is no bookmaker in the world who accept 3000$  on an itf women match, where the tournament winner perhaps get lesser amount
Is that the reason you bet on this game or what do you want to tell us?
If somebody is betting 3 BTC but with 10 anonymous accounts we got the same like one bet with 30 BTC. Our risk management avoids matches with too high amounts (or too high possible wins), but in this case we accepted your bet like we do since one and a half week for a lot of leagues.
hero member
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September 23, 2013, 01:53:39 PM
After user requests, we increased our maximum bet amount on 9/17/2013 for most bet types and pre match bets. Soon we will extend the maximum for live bets, too.

you are lying again, the max bet was 3 BTC and if it higher now then you modified it after my post

ther is no bookmaker in the world who accept 3000$  on an itf women match, where the tournament winner perhaps get lesser amount



sr. member
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September 23, 2013, 01:43:36 PM
After user requests, we increased our maximum bet amount on 9/17/2013 for most bet types and pre match bets. Soon we will extend the maximum for live bets, too.
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