I think it is unfair on the person to do all that though, we should leave it as is I have no issue OR disqualify any rounds where there are not 10 games. That is easier!
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May 18, 2022, 04:16:14 AM
Ok I got it for yellow cap calculations and agree with Harkorede if someone is willing to make the calculations and,,, we are all willing to trust their calculations
I think it is unfair on the person to do all that though, we should leave it as is I have no issue OR disqualify any rounds where there are not 10 games. That is easier!
I think it is unfair on the person to do all that though, we should leave it as is I have no issue OR disqualify any rounds where there are not 10 games. That is easier!
May 17, 2022, 12:44:08 PM
^ Ah right, I take it back, and yes. Sounds fairer but I suspect we'd end up on the other end of the # of games spectrum. i.e, gameweek with 6 games only (like Round 20), guy happens to make 6 correct outcomes, and gets the extra slam point to boost his week's point average, while his next 4 games are shit but it doesn't matter since it's in the next week.
Then you're likelier to chase the guy all season who won yellow cap in the week with the fewest games, instead of the one in the most games.
I know there's stats and probability involved in all this but the point is, whatever the system, we all get the same opportunities every week to try and score as high as we can. 20 games or 6 games. Top 3 yellow caps, btw, happened in normal 10-game rounds. Round 34 with 13 games was only 16 if you ignore MoSalah haha.
That said, I'm all for the new system for next season, would probably take some additional admin though
Then you're likelier to chase the guy all season who won yellow cap in the week with the fewest games, instead of the one in the most games.
I know there's stats and probability involved in all this but the point is, whatever the system, we all get the same opportunities every week to try and score as high as we can. 20 games or 6 games. Top 3 yellow caps, btw, happened in normal 10-game rounds. Round 34 with 13 games was only 16 if you ignore MoSalah haha.
That said, I'm all for the new system for next season, would probably take some additional admin though
May 17, 2022, 10:54:19 AM
I like Harkorede's idea on basis of fairness but that's just rewarding consistency more than the highest achievement -- AND it takes away the motivation for someone in bad positions to keep playing every week to try get the highest yellow cap. If there's one thing keeping everyone in bottom half playing, it's the yellow cap prize which, is not bad at all for the entry fee =)
I am open for all ideas, but I think for sake of simplicity keep to the easiest one, which is also as mentioned a good incentive to fight for the cap even if you are in bottom spot. Something I am extremely familiar with and trying to do in the EPL pool,,, which is better as you get a prize every yellow cap anyway!
I don't think you guys understood what Harkorede proposed. His way of doing things does nothing to diminish incentive to play to the end even if you are bottom of the table. It can only help. For instance we get 20 games in game week 28 and somebody makes 35 points. That lead would be impossible to overtake the way we are doing it now and with his proposed change it would be just be hard to overtake.
It just complicates calculating highest yellow cap and we don't have official result like now.
May 17, 2022, 07:15:59 AM
I am open for all ideas, but I think for sake of simplicity keep to the easiest one, which is also as mentioned a good incentive to fight for the cap even if you are in bottom spot. Something I am extremely familiar with and trying to do in the EPL pool,,, which is better as you get a prize every yellow cap anyway!
Sad to read about Chiellini leaving. I am new to Italian football but I watched him play in internationals for all I can remember. And even in last Euro he gave us good memories of pulling people back hehe. The ultimate Italian style, in my understanding.
Sad to read about Chiellini leaving. I am new to Italian football but I watched him play in internationals for all I can remember. And even in last Euro he gave us good memories of pulling people back hehe. The ultimate Italian style, in my understanding.
May 17, 2022, 02:15:06 AM
I lost so many perfect scores in last minutes, gets on your nerves a bit.
But you happened to be on the positive side of that today with your Juventus 2-2 pick, you literally took the perfect scores away from about half of the pool.
I finished with just 4.5 points for the gameweek, I would have been in a more tensed situation if there were 3-4 weeks still to go.
Go figure.
Your idea for yellow cap sounds good and I'll think about it for next season even though I am inclined to leave it as is. This way we have official results and nobody can complain
May 17, 2022, 01:37:46 AM
They have been tense I'll grant you that, enjoyable not so sure 
I lost so many perfect scores in last minutes, gets on your nerves a bit. No matter I plan on hosting these pools next season as well so be sure to check in. They will be in same threads so no way for you guys to miss out. It is just a question of who will be our sponsor. I am tipping on Sportsbet but we haven't talked yet.
I lost so many perfect scores in last minutes, gets on your nerves a bit. No matter I plan on hosting these pools next season as well so be sure to check in. They will be in same threads so no way for you guys to miss out. It is just a question of who will be our sponsor. I am tipping on Sportsbet but we haven't talked yet.Yeah I'm sure we can get a good sponsor again, these pools have only grown, with the exception of poor Champions League haha. And I'm always up to add a little more to the pot, probably the same amount (5 mbtc) for both this and La Liga, since I always set aside money for betting every new season, should be okay to budget.
If somebody has extra time feel free to go trough our pool and write out who is our highest yellow cap score it would be a nice double check. I know it isn't 100% fair but the winner will be highest score no matter how many games were in that game week. All other ways to grade are just too complicated and I am not even sure if they would be more fair.
It's fair. Everyone gets the same number of games and same opportunities, some days you win some you don't.
I like Harkorede's idea on basis of fairness but that's just rewarding consistency more than the highest achievement -- AND it takes away the motivation for someone in bad positions to keep playing every week to try get the highest yellow cap. If there's one thing keeping everyone in bottom half playing, it's the yellow cap prize which, is not bad at all for the entry fee =)
May 16, 2022, 05:23:57 PM
I lost so many perfect scores in last minutes, gets on your nerves a bit.
But you happened to be on the positive side of that today with your Juventus 2-2 pick, you literally took the perfect scores away from about half of the pool.
I finished with just 4.5 points for the gameweek, I would have been in a more tensed situation if there were 3-4 weeks still to go.
I know it isn't 100% fair but the winner will be highest score no matter how many games were in that game week. All other ways to grade are just too complicated and I am not even sure if they would be more fair.
I'd say imo, the best way is to use highest point average for the week, I mean the number of points divided by the number of games. ie, Some with 30 points from 15 games in the gw, would have 2 points, and some with 21 points from 10 games would have 2.1 points, I don't know if that makes much sense to everybody, but regardless it wouldn't fair to change the rules now, but perhaps from next season if everyone agrees or whatever you as the pool coordinator decide.
May 16, 2022, 01:55:55 PM
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Still think the 2-1 is the best score in every league, but too lazy to work out if that's true.
Still think the 2-1 is the best score in every league, but too lazy to work out if that's true.
not sure between 2:1 and 2:0, which is better
in Calcio, where all matches are both-to-score, 2:1 probably feels better than 2:0
looking at the table, small chances for Cagliari to avoid relegation, Venezia should be feasible to win over, but Salernitana is playing against Udinese, that have nothing to play for, except for local rivalry (that could be something)
May 16, 2022, 01:12:28 PM
If somebody has extra time feel free to go trough our pool and write out who is our highest yellow cap score it would be a nice double check.
1. vd309 20.5 points in Round 31
2. morvillz7z 20.0 points in Round 10
3. buwaytress 19.5 points in Round 13
It looks like vd309/MoSala will take home a double win, the highest yellow cap score, and the pool win, unless someone tops him in the final round. He is pretty far in the overall Serie A rankings, 14th as of today...not bad!
Juve vs. Lazio btts, who says no? Btw, this will be Dybala and Chiellini's last home matches for Juve. I'm hearing Dybala is leaving and likely going to Premier League next season, whichever of Arsenal and Spurs takes the 4th place. Lorenzo Insigne scored in his final home match for Napoli over the weekend, maybe Dybala does the same on his way out, hmm...
May 16, 2022, 11:55:46 AM
Pools have all been really tense and enjoyable this year huh?
They have been tense I'll grant you that, enjoyable not so sure I lost so many perfect scores in last minutes, gets on your nerves a bit. No matter I plan on hosting these pools next season as well so be sure to check in. They will be in same threads so no way for you guys to miss out. It is just a question of who will be our sponsor. I am tipping on Sportsbet but we haven't talked yet.If somebody has extra time feel free to go trough our pool and write out who is our highest yellow cap score it would be a nice double check. I know it isn't 100% fair but the winner will be highest score no matter how many games were in that game week. All other ways to grade are just too complicated and I am not even sure if they would be more fair.
May 16, 2022, 05:11:02 AM
I an a bit rusty but I believe 4th place pays out as well, and on top of that we should have something for highest yellow cap.
Yeah, nice, and no rush. I did see the OP but good to confirm it was updated. If I can just hang on,,, at least I get back what I put in. Ha ha.
It's a crazy end of season tbh, not just in this league but looking at the EPL too and, I had to second guess myself a couple of times, couldn't settle for 2-1, or 2-0, and 3-1 or 3-1, the fine line between those 0.5 points to 1.5 extra means a lot, I didn't expect Atalanta not score a goal, while expecting Inter Milan to get clean sheet both went the other way round. At least it's been one a hell of a ride all season long and it's just one more game round to go.
I keep telling myself it's pointless to go for high risks... how many times did I go for 3-0 or 4-0 and still get 1 point like those who went 1-0 or 2-1 when teams go crazy and win 5-2 or something.
All to get 0.5 extra points.
Still think the 2-1 is the best score in every league, but too lazy to work out if that's true.
Pools have all been really tense and enjoyable this year huh?
May 16, 2022, 02:58:12 AM
And Sassuolo get the 1-3 win I had on for so long before changing to what I thought was a safer 1-1. So frustrating that I let their results make me second guess myself.
Season end not bringing any betting joy huh morvillz and Harko. Bookies are loving all of this seriously.
And after today we should know for certain some pool spots. Only top 3 take something home here right?
Season end not bringing any betting joy huh morvillz and Harko. Bookies are loving all of this seriously.
And after today we should know for certain some pool spots. Only top 3 take something home here right?
It's a crazy end of season tbh, not just in this league but looking at the EPL too and, I had to second guess myself a couple of times, couldn't settle for 2-1, or 2-0, and 3-1 or 3-1, the fine line between those 0.5 points to 1.5 extra means a lot, I didn't expect Atalanta not score a goal, while expecting Inter Milan to get clean sheet both went the other way round. At least it's been one a hell of a ride all season long and it's just one more game round to go.
May 15, 2022, 03:47:26 PM
So on last round Milan have everything in their hands by leading by 2 points. Both Milan and Inter will play against teams which already fight for nothing. But, Inter will play at home and also Milan lost 2 last games against Sassuolo.
It's possible that after few years break Atalanta won't qualify to UEFA cups. Though, in last round their direct competitors Fiorentina will play against Juventus. But, IMO, both Fiorentina and Roma deserves these spots more.
. Anyway, still going to joing if you'll make pool next season.
It's possible that after few years break Atalanta won't qualify to UEFA cups. Though, in last round their direct competitors Fiorentina will play against Juventus. But, IMO, both Fiorentina and Roma deserves these spots more.
Not at home so I can't check it at the moment but I believe this should be updated for current season and reflecting real state of our bank. I try to make those things clear after registrations close so that there isn't any misunderstandings.
From what I see, OP was last updated in October, so probably it's this season numbers. Though, don't pretend to win something, Serie A is just not my league . Anyway, still going to joing if you'll make pool next season. May 15, 2022, 09:55:22 AM
And Sassuolo get the 1-3 win I had on for so long before changing to what I thought was a safer 1-1. So frustrating that I let their results make me second guess myself.
Season end not bringing any betting joy huh morvillz and Harko. Bookies are loving all of this seriously.
And after today we should know for certain some pool spots. Only top 3 take something home here right?
I an a bit rusty but I believe 4th place pays out as well, and on top of that we should have something for highest yellow cap.Season end not bringing any betting joy huh morvillz and Harko. Bookies are loving all of this seriously.
And after today we should know for certain some pool spots. Only top 3 take something home here right?
This is from the OP:
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Rewards:
We have 60 mBTC (40 mBTC Sportsbet sponsorship + 5 buwaytress sponsorship + 15x1 mBTC buy in fee) in the pool, I decided to award first 4 places and best yellow cap this season.
1. place - 25 mBTC
2. place - 15 mBTC
3. place - 10 mBTC
4. place - 5 mBTC
Highest yellow cap - up to 5 mBTC, basically gets all that is left after paying tx fee
We have 60 mBTC (40 mBTC Sportsbet sponsorship + 5 buwaytress sponsorship + 15x1 mBTC buy in fee) in the pool, I decided to award first 4 places and best yellow cap this season.
1. place - 25 mBTC
2. place - 15 mBTC
3. place - 10 mBTC
4. place - 5 mBTC
Highest yellow cap - up to 5 mBTC, basically gets all that is left after paying tx fee
Not at home so I can't check it at the moment but I believe this should be updated for current season and reflecting real state of our bank. I try to make those things clear after registrations close so that there isn't any misunderstandings.
May 15, 2022, 07:40:06 AM
And Sassuolo get the 1-3 win I had on for so long before changing to what I thought was a safer 1-1. So frustrating that I let their results make me second guess myself.
Season end not bringing any betting joy huh morvillz and Harko. Bookies are loving all of this seriously.
And after today we should know for certain some pool spots. Only top 3 take something home here right?
Season end not bringing any betting joy huh morvillz and Harko. Bookies are loving all of this seriously.
And after today we should know for certain some pool spots. Only top 3 take something home here right?
May 14, 2022, 01:26:45 PM
None of the picks are going my way right now, Udinese is currently losing to Spezia while, Hellas Verona is also losing to Torino (where I've gone with a draw), neither of all 4 teams have anything to play for so, I just had to follow my guts and their recent form and all.
Before this week's matches, Spezia was not out of the woods, they needed a point at least. It's strange being the only one in our pool to back them up. Spezia has a solid record away from home in Udine, having beaten them the previous season.
Verona and Torino indeed had nothing to play for, i chose Torino solely because of their coach, Ivan Juric, who was facing his former team, that extra motivation...
I expected so much more from Salernitana tbh, what else could they have asked for than a penalty in the 84th minute, but can't convert.
Watched the full game, could have gone either way to be fair. It was a very open match, Salernitana missed a few point black chances on top of the missed penalty. The guy who usually takes the penalties was subbed off just 5 minutes before the penalty, which was extremely unfortunate, Verdi would've scored.
Venezia got relegated a few hours ago, they might ship 3-4 goals to Roma, i have them at O2.5 + another ticket.
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May 14, 2022, 01:15:41 PM
Oh damn you Salernitana. This is why I say penalties are not given in the hands of teams that aren't top half of a league. Coulda given me an exact score with 6 minutes left but then end up with zero (and to think I upgraded from 1-1). But not that it matters, Harko and Mo both also picked the same score heh.
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I was with Empoli all the way, pushing for Cagliari to stay in the league
is winning over Inter even an option, I hope so
three matches today, all three misses, I am really irrelevant when comes to Calcio, Spezia won over Udinese is really a surprise for me
May 14, 2022, 11:59:14 AM
Oh damn you Salernitana. This is why I say penalties are not given in the hands of teams that aren't top half of a league. Coulda given me an exact score with 6 minutes left but then end up with zero (and to think I upgraded from 1-1). But not that it matters, Harko and Mo both also picked the same score heh.
Not a bad way to start my day before I go out, hope to make it back without missing too much of Wembley.
Not a bad way to start my day before I go out, hope to make it back without missing too much of Wembley.
None of the picks are going my way right now, Udinese is currently losing to Spezia while, Hellas Verona is also losing to Torino (where I've gone with a draw), neither of all 4 teams have anything to play for so, I just had to follow my guts and their recent form and all.
I expected so much more from Salernitana tbh, what else could they have asked for than a penalty in the 84th minute, but can't convert.
May 14, 2022, 09:53:34 AM
Oh damn you Salernitana. This is why I say penalties are not given in the hands of teams that aren't top half of a league. Coulda given me an exact score with 6 minutes left but then end up with zero (and to think I upgraded from 1-1). But not that it matters, Harko and Mo both also picked the same score heh.
Not a bad way to start my day before I go out, hope to make it back without missing too much of Wembley.
Not a bad way to start my day before I go out, hope to make it back without missing too much of Wembley.
May 12, 2022, 01:04:56 PM
It is not from Serie A completely but it is related to it.
Yesterday Inter came out champion of the Italian Cup again, something that had not happened since 2011.
Juventus ends the season without titles, a disastrous performance for such a great team.
And going back to Serie A they weren't even close to fighting for the title.
Never liked Juve so every trophy out of their hands is sort of a win for me Yesterday Inter came out champion of the Italian Cup again, something that had not happened since 2011.
Juventus ends the season without titles, a disastrous performance for such a great team.
And going back to Serie A they weren't even close to fighting for the title.
Perišić is playing one hell of the season and he was best player on the pitch yesterday as well. I can't believe they still did not offer him a new contract. i think he is loosing patience and I would not be surprised if he leave as a free player. This is borderline disrespectful.
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