Bitcointalk Account price estimator - page 54.

jbrnt

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Quote from: achow101 on August 05, 2015, 09:27:41 PM

So I am a little stuck with a small issue of ip bans. Bitcointalk will ban my server's ip if it makes too many requests at once.

I think you should use user side to query the forum, so the service can be made available to more than one user at the same time. If you query the forum server side, you will need to change server IP if your IP gets banned for some reason.

ColderThanIce

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Quote from: achow101 on August 07, 2015, 11:44:51 AM

Quote from: ColderThanIce on August 07, 2015, 11:43:33 AM

Quote from: achow101 on August 07, 2015, 10:51:58 AM

I'm actually going to put some ads on it so that it will be free for everyone to use while I can still make some Bitcoin off of it. It is just like paying a few Satoshis to have the ads up while not having to go through the hassle of sending them.

That's a good idea - be sure to add a donation address to your site as well!

Have you figured out how you'll deal with the one request per second rule yet, and any ETA on when the site would be made public?

I'm going to use a queuing system and limit requests to once every 5 minutes. The site should be public by August 10th.

Cool, I'll be sure to watch this topic then. Although I don't trade accounts at all or anything like that I'll be interested to see the site.

achow101

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Just writing some code

Quote from: ColderThanIce on August 07, 2015, 11:43:33 AM

Quote from: achow101 on August 07, 2015, 10:51:58 AM

I'm actually going to put some ads on it so that it will be free for everyone to use while I can still make some Bitcoin off of it. It is just like paying a few Satoshis to have the ads up while not having to go through the hassle of sending them.

That's a good idea - be sure to add a donation address to your site as well!

Have you figured out how you'll deal with the one request per second rule yet, and any ETA on when the site would be made public?

I'm going to use a queuing system and limit requests to once every 5 minutes. The site should be public by August 10th.

ColderThanIce

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Quote from: achow101 on August 07, 2015, 10:51:58 AM

I'm actually going to put some ads on it so that it will be free for everyone to use while I can still make some Bitcoin off of it. It is just like paying a few Satoshis to have the ads up while not having to go through the hassle of sending them.

That's a good idea - be sure to add a donation address to your site as well!

Have you figured out how you'll deal with the one request per second rule yet, and any ETA on when the site would be made public?

achow101

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Just writing some code

Quote from: Kakmakr on August 07, 2015, 05:30:50 AM

I would offer this as a paid service on a website. Instead of taking donations, just ask a few Satoshi's for it's use.
Once people get familiar with the service, and experts have checked the code for security issues, this might become a profitable venture for you. Wink

I will not go through all the trouble to pull the code and execute it through a website... but I will visit a website and use the service, when I need it. I love my account too much to sell it anyways, but I guess there are a need for it
out there.

More people will do this, if they know how valuable accounts can become.

I'm actually going to put some ads on it so that it will be free for everyone to use while I can still make some Bitcoin off of it. It is just like paying a few Satoshis to have the ads up while not having to go through the hassle of sending them.

--Encrypted--

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hee-ho.

nice project. but I think the base price per activity is a little high. maybe reduce it to 0.0006 or something.

also keep in mind that signature campaigns are one of the biggest reason that bitcointalk account is worth something in the first place. so we can be sure that the price will be affected if all signature campaigns reduce or increase their payment. not to mention that someone might sell an account for a reduced amount because of the tight competition in the market.

Kakmakr

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I would offer this as a paid service on a website. Instead of taking donations, just ask a few Satoshi's for it's use.
Once people get familiar with the service, and experts have checked the code for security issues, this might become a profitable venture for you. Wink

I will not go through all the trouble to pull the code and execute it through a website... but I will visit a website and use the service, when I need it. I love my account too much to sell it anyways, but I guess there are a need for it
out there.

More people will do this, if they know how valuable accounts can become.

jeffthebaker

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As someone who has dabbled in account trading and plan to continue my endeavors in the future, this is a great tool and I thank you for your work, OP. It's great to have a tool to estimate account worth rather than going off of my own (un)educated guess

ColderThanIce

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One idea to get around that rule would to be by going through one of the Bitcointalk mirrors. However, most of the mirrors are probably phishing sites so I'm not sure if you'd want to go that route, but it would possibly be a solution because they are exact mirrors, and if the site was requesting more than one page per second, it would be their problem rather than yours.

Another idea would be to contact the person who manages the Bit-x signature campaign bot - I believe his name is Bitcoin_BOy$. I suspect that often times his bot would be requesting more than one page per second, but it's been running for months so he must have some way to bypass the one page per second rule.

If you don't want to take either of those routes, the queue idea sounds like the best proposed method, if you don't hear back from theymos on your question.

achow101

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Just writing some code

So I am a little stuck with a small issue of ip bans. Bitcointalk will ban my server's ip if it makes too many requests at once. The limit is 1 request per second. The way that I have written my program is that it will request all of the pages where it shows the posts of a person and use those to calculate the potential activity. The issue is that if multiple people use it at once, then I will be violating the 1 request per second rule and get an ip ban.

Thus, I need your help to brainstorm ways to solve this problem
So far I have tried

Asking Theymos to whitelist the IP (No response yet)
Doing the requests browser side (doesn't work due to same-origin policy)

And I have thought of but not yet tried

creating a queue where one person goes at a time
doubling the wait time two 2 seconds per request thus allowing 2 simultaneous requests
Using something that can distribute each potential activity calculation to another server

What you guys suggest I will add below.

Ask Bitcoin_BOy$ who manages Bit-x sig campaign bot (suggested by ColderThanIce)

DaddyMonsi

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Quote from: DaddyMonsi on August 05, 2015, 10:33:02 AM

how do you compute the value for Potential Activity?
our account only shows Posts and Activity

I have made a bot to calculate potential activity.
You can check demo at:
http://www.satoshiquiz.com/bitcointalk/getactivity.php

Limit:
Only accounts with max 100 posts will work in demo mode.

ok. Nice bot you have there. I checked the link, unfortunately my posts is over 100 so it didn't work

i'll just wait for my account to increase its level every other Wednesday and hopefully by September i reach Full Member

WhoCaresCoins

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It's looks interesting project

achow101

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Just writing some code

So I have finished the final coding and it is ready for deployment. The only issue is that too many requests will result in an ip ban from Bitcointalk, which is an issue I am working on right now. I will update back when the site is up and running.

ColderThanIce

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Quote from: xuan87 on August 05, 2015, 12:53:09 PM

Very nice project indeed.
Since coding is out of my league, How do I use your code ? How's worth my account ?
how can I measure the exact result to determine " execellent" , "good" , etc ?
By quality ? By quantity ?

I estimate that your account is worth about 0.31 BTC, according to knightdk's algorithm. That's probably a little above current market prices for Senior accounts though.

As for post quality, I'd rate your's as fair. I'd consider an excellent post quality to be from someone who often answers technical questions, and gives thorough, accurate responses. I'd probably rate my own post quality as good, just as an example. It's definitely more quality based than quantity.

achow101

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Quote from: xuan87 on August 05, 2015, 12:53:09 PM

Very nice project indeed.
Since coding is out of my league, How do I use your code ? How's worth my account ?

Code:

case "excellent":
	qualitymultiplier = 1.10;
	break;
case "good":
	qualitymultiplier = 1.025;
	break;
case "fair":
	qualitymultiplier = 1.00;
	break;
case "poor":
	qualitymultiplier = 0.975;
	break;
case "bad":
	qualitymultiplier = 0.95;
	break;

how can I measure the exact result to determine " execellent" , "good" , etc ?
By quality ? By quantity ?

To use the script that ColderThanIce helpfully posted while I work on the actual thing, you copy the text to notepad and save it as an html file. Then open up the file in a browser and fill out the form.

My website (when it is done) will not require that you fill out the form, just the uid. It will pull all of the information from Bitcointalk for you so you don't have to do it yourself.

xuan87

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Very nice project indeed.
Since coding is out of my league, How do I use your code ? How's worth my account ?

Code:

case "excellent":
	qualitymultiplier = 1.10;
	break;
case "good":
	qualitymultiplier = 1.025;
	break;
case "fair":
	qualitymultiplier = 1.00;
	break;
case "poor":
	qualitymultiplier = 0.975;
	break;
case "bad":
	qualitymultiplier = 0.95;
	break;

how can I measure the exact result to determine " execellent" , "good" , etc ?
By quality ? By quantity ?

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Quote from: DaddyMonsi on August 05, 2015, 10:33:02 AM

how do you compute the value for Potential Activity?
our account only shows Posts and Activity

I have made a bot to calculate potential activity.
You can check demo at:
http://www.satoshiquiz.com/bitcointalk/getactivity.php

Limit:
Only accounts with max 100 posts will work in demo mode.

Where is the Full mode? Can you make it, or it is at somewhere?

Quote from: avatar_kiyoshi on August 05, 2015, 07:35:19 AM

Quote from: DaddyMonsi on August 05, 2015, 05:30:04 AM

-snip

I tried using that HTML code
what do you put in accounts potential activity?
I left it blank and selected
Post Activity = fair
Trust Rating = neutral
Accounts current activity = 84
Potential Activity = Huh

Result is = 0.0315BTC

I set:
Post Quality: Fair
Trust: Neutral
Account's Current Activity: 210
Account's Potential Activity: 607
am i wrong? i should leave account potential blank?

Edit: when i leave potential account blank the result is my account worth as 0.078 BTC.

BTW your account don't have potential activity. Your potential activity is same as your current activity, i.e. 210.

DaddyMonsi

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how do you compute the value for Potential Activity?
our account only shows Posts and Activity

ColderThanIce

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Quote from: avatar_kiyoshi on August 05, 2015, 10:03:22 AM

@ColderthanIce I already test your new script but, looks like still buggy Huh

because when i set with my recent account spesification, the result is my account worth as 0.15 BTC Shocked

BTW good try!

What are you inputting as your potential activity? I just calculated your account value manually (according to the OP's algorithm) and I received a similar account value, using an activity of 210, 0 potential activity, good post quality and neutral trust.

avatar_kiyoshi

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@ColderthanIce I already test your new script but, looks like still buggy Huh

because when i set with my recent account spesification, the result is my account worth as 0.15 BTC Shocked

BTW good try!

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