Topic: Bitcointalk Escrows - Trade Safely! - page 38. (Read 108616 times)
Ognasty is the best. Have used him for escrow on dozens of transactions
If you take a look at my trust or click the "escrow" link in my signature, you'll see I handle quite a few escrow deals as well.
Points based on rank, feedback, reputation and number of escrows done could also be looked at to assign a score.
I've gotten a number of private contracts, that I'm sure they want to keep private. With no way for the public to verify, how do I account for the number of escrows? (And sometimes, they don't leave feedback anywhere.)
In fact, with the exception of alt-coin IPOs/ ICOs, almost all my contracts are private.
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can be dangerous when people are put on it or unfair when others are left off.
I still conduct some research to make sure I don't add any random escrow.
Let me know who I've left off and will add them in.
That's why I think some sort of voting system or a points based based on some criteria should be implemented to make it secure, though obviously it will be hard to think up of a fair system and could be open to manipulation. I think if you had a panel of trusted users to 'vet' the process that could work. Points based on rank, feedback, reputation and number of escrows done could also be looked at to asign a score.
Saving this for future reference.
Thanks! Be safe!
Saving this for future reference.
can be dangerous when people are put on it or unfair when others are left off.
I still conduct some research to make sure I don't add any random escrow.
Let me know who I've left off and will add them in.
But how will you rank the big five? Your opinion may be different to others on that. I think some scoring system should be put in place. Maybe you could have a handful of users who are trusted to vote or decide the criteria for inclusion.
I will rank them as I would if I was searching for an escrow provider (who has researched prior escrows). Of course everyone can let me know their thoughts and if they provide sufficient details and reasons as to why a certain escrow should be in the big 5 then I will move them.
The big 5 are the ones that are easily reachable, have done countless smooth trades and are very professional in their business.
Without some sort of fair ranking this list is just another list of escrows but ranked in your opinion so not worth much to everyone else.
I understand the idea that someone trusted by DefaultTrust, trusted by the public may not always be as trustworthy as claimed to be
But by making this post, you are claiming that you know who is more trustworthy better than DefaultTrust, better than the public ?
If you want to make an ordered list, use a publicly verifiable algorithm which could be critiqued like : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897
Or, just leave it unordered, don't call your favourite escrows "the big five".
But by making this post, you are claiming that you know who is more trustworthy better than DefaultTrust, better than the public ?
If you want to make an ordered list, use a publicly verifiable algorithm which could be critiqued like : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897
Or, just leave it unordered, don't call your favourite escrows "the big five".
Exactly. Some system should be put in place here. What are the criteria for inclusion? Your opinion? I think if this is going to be a valid and reliable list some sort of criteria needs to be stated and met.
I understand the idea that someone trusted by DefaultTrust, trusted by the public may not always be as trustworthy as claimed to be
But by making this post, you are claiming that you know who is more trustworthy better than DefaultTrust, better than the public ?
If you want to make an ordered list, use a publicly verifiable algorithm which could be critiqued like : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897
Or, just leave it unordered, don't call your favourite escrows "the big five".
But by making this post, you are claiming that you know who is more trustworthy better than DefaultTrust, better than the public ?
If you want to make an ordered list, use a publicly verifiable algorithm which could be critiqued like : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897
Or, just leave it unordered, don't call your favourite escrows "the big five".
They aren't my 'favourite escrows', but the escrows that have established themselves and proven to be trustworthy.
...In your opinion. At the moment this is just marcotheminer's favourite escrow list. I'm all for an updated escrow list as the others really aren't, but it can be dangerous when people are put on it or unfair when others are left off.
#marcotheminer
I think you can add "available" (pgp signature) to Tomatocage , because he provides his public PGP KEY :
I think you can add "available" (pgp signature) to Tomatocage , because he provides his public PGP KEY :
Added PGP_Sign. See sig.
Wow. Thanks for the confidence. Glad to be last in the list of the Big 5. Just noticed this now.
Nice clean updated list. The other one was a bit old and confusing, I'll recommend this if and when someone is searching for an escrow. Thanks for this.
Thank you marcotheminer 
, your work it is very appreciated .
, your work it is very appreciated .You're welcome!
Thank you marcotheminer , your work it is very appreciated .
, your work it is very appreciated . I understand the idea that someone trusted by DefaultTrust, trusted by the public may not always be as trustworthy as claimed to be
But by making this post, you are claiming that you know who is more trustworthy better than DefaultTrust, better than the public ?
If you want to make an ordered list, use a publicly verifiable algorithm which could be critiqued like : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897
Or, just leave it unordered, don't call your favourite escrows "the big five".
But by making this post, you are claiming that you know who is more trustworthy better than DefaultTrust, better than the public ?
If you want to make an ordered list, use a publicly verifiable algorithm which could be critiqued like : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897
Or, just leave it unordered, don't call your favourite escrows "the big five".
They aren't my 'favourite escrows', but the escrows that have established themselves and proven to be trustworthy. By all means let me know their thoughts and if you provide sufficient reason as to why a certain escrow should or should not be in the big 5 then I will move them.
I understand the idea that someone trusted by DefaultTrust, trusted by the public may not always be as trustworthy as claimed to be
But by making this post, you are claiming that you know who is more trustworthy better than DefaultTrust, better than the public ?
If you want to make an ordered list, use a publicly verifiable algorithm which could be critiqued like : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897
Or, just leave it unordered, don't call your favourite escrows "the big five".
But by making this post, you are claiming that you know who is more trustworthy better than DefaultTrust, better than the public ?
If you want to make an ordered list, use a publicly verifiable algorithm which could be critiqued like : https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/list-bitcointalks-escrow-providers-ranking-blacklist-avoid-scam-276897
Or, just leave it unordered, don't call your favourite escrows "the big five".
Make sure you use an escrow!
But how will you rank the big five? Your opinion may be different to others on that. I think some scoring system should be put in place. Maybe you could have a handful of users who are trusted to vote or decide the criteria for inclusion.
I will rank them as I would if I was searching for an escrow provider (who has researched prior escrows). Of course everyone can let me know their thoughts and if they provide sufficient details and reasons as to why a certain escrow should be in the big 5 then I will move them.
The big 5 are the ones that are easily reachable, have done countless smooth trades and are very professional in their business.
But how will you rank the big five? Your opinion may be different to others on that. I think some scoring system should be put in place. Maybe you could have a handful of users who are trusted to vote or decide the criteria for inclusion.
If you want to be added: post here with relevant information!
I think you should have some minimum criteria and don't just ad any newcomer until they have a history of trades. I think it's a good idea to keep an updated list but only if it's kept clean with trusted agents and not filled with everyone wanting to get into the business.
That's what I intend to do.
escrow.ms's signature says that he will be out of town "starting on the 14th" and will not be able to provide escrow until after he gets back. It has actually said this for a while now and he hasn't been active on the forum as much recently (I think he has been working on a bitcoin related project), so I don't think he is actively available for escrow.
Also what criteria do you use to rank to rank escrows? It seems you are using how active they are on the forum, but wouldn't you say that their trust ratings might be more accurate?
EDIT: You also may want to see this thread for a somewhat outdated (last updated ~4 months ago) list of escrow providers.
Also what criteria do you use to rank to rank escrows? It seems you are using how active they are on the forum, but wouldn't you say that their trust ratings might be more accurate?
EDIT: You also may want to see this thread for a somewhat outdated (last updated ~4 months ago) list of escrow providers.
Yes, as an escrow myself I would suggest to the OP to rank the escrows in some sort of trust system - it would take some work but should make the list more accurate.
Someone with 0 trust attached may be just as trustworthy as someone with +100 green trust. Similarly, someone with 100+ green trust can be extremely shady and not trustworthy.
I won't be ranking by public trust levels but will continually update the "big 5" with the most used, trusted and known escrows. You have been added.
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