bitcointalk forum vs OpenAI - ChatGPT - page 3.

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Quote from: lovesmayfamilis on February 07, 2023, 09:36:23 AM

https://detectgpt.ericmitchell.ai/

Another AI detector. Pretty good at detecting human text or AI. Maybe more checks are needed, though.

Thanks for this tool, it will be useful for the form mods and for the signature campaign managers.

Today we get a message from the manager of my current signature (Stake), and somehow they detected users abusing with AI posts, they will not pay for those posts and they will add some new rules in the campaign to avoid users posting with AI tools.

And I would like to know what are the forum general rules against AI, Are that kind of post allowed or those accounts will get nuked if they abuse?

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https://detectgpt.ericmitchell.ai/

Another AI detector. Pretty good at detecting human text or AI. Maybe more checks are needed, though.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on February 06, 2023, 05:28:41 PM

Some open-source alternatives are popping out as well, like this one:

https://github.com/LAION-AI/Open-Assistant
https://open-assistant.io/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Izfm24FKA

Looks pretty interesting, but still in the early development stage. They're aiming for it to be able to interact with 3rd party systems, which would be pretty big if it's achieved, and it's free and open-source.

Currently looking for contributors to the data collection, if anyone's interested.

I have some equipment.
Might not be the best but it's a foot in the door on deep learning gear.
I had a pinecone ada buildup but decided a different route.
So no data but I'm interested in self hosted GPT alternatives that I can fine tune

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Some open-source alternatives are popping out as well, like this one:

https://github.com/LAION-AI/Open-Assistant
https://open-assistant.io/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64Izfm24FKA

Looks pretty interesting, but still in the early development stage. They're aiming for it to be able to interact with 3rd party systems, which would be pretty big if it's achieved, and it's free and open-source.

Currently looking for contributors to the data collection, if anyone's interested.

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Heads up!
g00gle seems to be in a real hurry to catch up on ChatGPT hype so they already released their own rival experimental conversational AI service called Bard for early testing to their ''trusted testers''.
Bard will be available for public release in next few weeks, and we don't exactly what features it will have but it should work in similar way like ChatGPT.
However, they publicly said that Bard is guaranteed to make errors, even serious ones, so I would not trust any results coming from this crap.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/2/6/23588033/google-chatgpt-rival-bard-testing-rollout-features

For me it's really simple:
More use of AI = less use of humans.

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Quote from: HmmMAA on February 06, 2023, 08:05:59 AM

Bitcointalk wasn't founded by satoshi but from theymos and certainly not founded in 2009 . Bitcointalk got registered in 2011 ( https://who.is/whois/bitcointalk.org ) , almost one year after satoshi has left the community .

The forum isn't a domain name. You know that the forum was founded in 2009, so why would you want to confuse likewise?

Quote from: HmmMAA on February 06, 2023, 09:49:11 AM

I was precise that bitcointalk wasn't registered by satoshi and he didn't post on bitcointalk

You said that bitcointalk wasn't founded by Satoshi, but it very was, because bitcointalk is the forum. You meant the domain name.

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Quote from: HmmMAA on February 06, 2023, 10:43:30 AM

I don't understand why being so aggressive . I just mention a fact , that bitcointalk got registered in 2011 . You can see it also at the who.is link i gave . Also satoshi didn't post in bitcointalk after bitcointalk's registration . What is the wrong with you ? Can't i share my knowledge on something based on facts ?

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Quote from: n0nce on February 06, 2023, 09:41:00 AM

I do agree though, that OpenAI replies aren't always correct, that is right indeed.

Indeed and sometimes, stupid too. A few days ago, I was trying ChatGPT and asking cryptocurrency-related questions. I was looking for some information about Vitalik Buterin and I don't know how the hell ChatGPT told me Vitalik developed Bitcoin. I was surprised and then asked who is satoshi, again, told me satoshi developed bitcoin, hahaha. I was surprised by that response, which I didn't expect at all.
Another funny part, I asked who won the 2012 UCL and how? Told me Chelsea had scored at the beginning but Bayern had a great comeback lol, the reality was almost the opposite. Bayern scored around 82 mins and after few mins if I'm correct Drogba had leveled the score.

Texts from ChatGPT can be identified if someone notices a bit closer I think, though they already have developed a tool to identify AI-generated text. Clever guy- create the problem first and offer the solution lol.

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Quote from: shahzadafzal on February 06, 2023, 10:34:21 AM

Quote from: HmmMAA on February 06, 2023, 08:05:59 AM

Bitcointalk wasn't founded by satoshi but from theymos and certainly not founded in 2009 . Bitcointalk got registered in 2011 ( https://who.is/whois/bitcointalk.org ) , almost one year after satoshi has left the community . So , satoshi never posted on bitcointalk . ChatGPT just reproduces what most people say . Don't take everything it says as granted . In fact if you continue asking the right questions you can squeeze it easily into the ropes .

Craig Wright is that you?

Satoshi has a message for you as latest as March 07, 2014

See Satoshi didn’t left, he was alive and kicking.

Yes Satoshi was posting on forum.bitcoin.org and all the Satoshi’s posts here on bitcointalk.org are original and unedited.

Let’s suppose tomorrow we move bitcointalk.org to onlyfans[dot]com/bitcointalk (after epochtalk is ready) and copy all the data. Will it’s make any difference?

All the posts will still be credited to original posters including “Satoshi Nakamoto”. Right?

I don't understand why being so aggressive . I just mention a fact , that bitcointalk got registered in 2011 . You can see it also at the who.is link i gave . Also satoshi didn't post in bitcointalk after bitcointalk's registration . What is the wrong with you ? Can't i share my knowledge on something based on facts ?

Edit . If by your logic we move satoshi's posts to onlyfans , will we educate the next generation that original satoshi's post were made on onlyfans ?
edit2 . Seems i'm wrong that theymos registered bitcointalk.org , apologies for that .

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Quote from: HmmMAA on February 06, 2023, 08:05:59 AM

Bitcointalk wasn't founded by satoshi but from theymos and certainly not founded in 2009 . Bitcointalk got registered in 2011 ( https://who.is/whois/bitcointalk.org ) , almost one year after satoshi has left the community . So , satoshi never posted on bitcointalk . ChatGPT just reproduces what most people say . Don't take everything it says as granted . In fact if you continue asking the right questions you can squeeze it easily into the ropes .

Craig Wright is that you?

Satoshi has a message for you as latest as March 07, 2014

See Satoshi didn’t left, he was alive and kicking.

Yes Satoshi was posting on forum.bitcoin.org and all the Satoshi’s posts here on bitcointalk.org are original and unedited.

Let’s suppose tomorrow we move bitcointalk.org to onlyfans[dot]com/bitcointalk (after epochtalk is ready) and copy all the data. Will it’s make any difference?

All the posts will still be credited to original posters including “Satoshi Nakamoto”. Right?

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Quote from: n0nce on February 06, 2023, 09:41:00 AM

Quote from: WhyFhy on February 06, 2023, 09:16:25 AM

Quote from: HmmMAA on February 06, 2023, 08:05:59 AM

Bitcointalk wasn't founded by satoshi but from theymos and certainly not founded in 2009 . Bitcointalk got registered in 2011 ( https://who.is/whois/bitcointalk.org ) , almost one year after satoshi has left the community . So , satoshi never posted on bitcointalk . ChatGPT just reproduces what most people say . Don't take everything it says as granted . In fact if you continue asking the right questions you can squeeze it easily into the ropes .

Incorrect.

Satoshi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile%3bu=3
Theymos
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/theymos-35

Yeah; @HmmMAA is confused by the domain. The forum was on sourceforge before, as explained by satoshi in 2009. So indeed, it had been created by satoshi. He obviously also wrote lots of posts, so this user must not even be aware of BPIP.org.

This page shows that the satoshi profile is not only registered on the forum since 11/19/2009, but also one of the most merited, trusted and recognized users on the whole platform.

I do agree though, that OpenAI replies aren't always correct, that is right indeed.

I agree that satoshi posted on the subdomain ( forum.bitcoin.org ) and indeed the posts from satoshi were transfered to bitcointalk . I was precise that bitcointalk wasn't registered by satoshi and he didn't post on bitcointalk , so i believe that i am correct .

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Quote from: WhyFhy on February 06, 2023, 09:16:25 AM

Quote from: HmmMAA on February 06, 2023, 08:05:59 AM

Bitcointalk wasn't founded by satoshi but from theymos and certainly not founded in 2009 . Bitcointalk got registered in 2011 ( https://who.is/whois/bitcointalk.org ) , almost one year after satoshi has left the community . So , satoshi never posted on bitcointalk . ChatGPT just reproduces what most people say . Don't take everything it says as granted . In fact if you continue asking the right questions you can squeeze it easily into the ropes .

Incorrect.

Satoshi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile%3bu=3
Theymos
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/theymos-35

Yeah; @HmmMAA is confused by the domain. The forum was on sourceforge before, as explained by satoshi in 2009. So indeed, it had been created by satoshi. He obviously also wrote lots of posts, so this user must not even be aware of BPIP.org.

This page shows that the satoshi profile is not only registered on the forum since 11/19/2009, but also one of the most merited, trusted and recognized users on the whole platform.

I do agree though, that OpenAI replies aren't always correct, that is right indeed.

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Quote from: HmmMAA on February 06, 2023, 08:05:59 AM

Bitcointalk wasn't founded by satoshi but from theymos and certainly not founded in 2009 . Bitcointalk got registered in 2011 ( https://who.is/whois/bitcointalk.org ) , almost one year after satoshi has left the community . So , satoshi never posted on bitcointalk . ChatGPT just reproduces what most people say . Don't take everything it says as granted . In fact if you continue asking the right questions you can squeeze it easily into the ropes .

Incorrect.

Satoshi
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile%3bu=3
Theymos
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/theymos-35

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Quote from: shahzadafzal on December 08, 2022, 06:04:05 AM

Bitcointalk wasn't founded by satoshi but from theymos and certainly not founded in 2009 . Bitcointalk got registered in 2011 ( https://who.is/whois/bitcointalk.org ) , almost one year after satoshi has left the community . So , satoshi never posted on bitcointalk . ChatGPT just reproduces what most people say . Don't take everything it says as granted . In fact if you continue asking the right questions you can squeeze it easily into the ropes .

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Quote from: dkbit98 on February 03, 2023, 02:35:39 PM

ChatGPT recently started with their subscription model (like I predicted) and they obviously want to earn money from all this AI hype,
but problem is that now g00gle is working on their own competition AI powered chat project called Atlas, so I am expecting more of this AI generated posts in future.
I am really going to be suspicious whenever I see newbies writing wall of text in forum, that looks to good to be written by a human.
Now we need someone to create Anti-ChatGPT tools.

It's funny how much data this company collects every day from the people and still is going to charge them for smoother experience of data collecting. I mean, people ask sensitive questions to ChatGPT, they usually ask things that reveal their psychology and what's deep inside their mind, it's pretty clear to notice this cause so many people publish screenshots of their questions and AI answers.
But yeah, why not make a money where it's possible? Companies pay for data, openai profits by collecting data Cheesy

Quote from: Rikafip on February 03, 2023, 02:40:38 PM

I am surprised that Google didn't buy them out. Or maybe they tried but they failed. But yeah, they really want to participate in this AI hype as it was announced today that they invested $300 million AI startup Anthropic.

I still think that google in unbeatable there even if an AI stands behind it. Google gives you more control, offers you tons of data to choose from and you can easily filter news yourself and find a better source. AI will never be able to provide you with the data you are exactly looking for, even if it analyzes your behaviors very well.
I think more options are advantageous over one AI generated response.

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Quote from: Accardo on February 04, 2023, 02:39:43 AM

it's nice to have a different kind of search engine that is more user friendly which serves better what google is doing for readers.

Do note that ChatGPT is not a search engine and has no access to the internet.

Also worth mentioning that all this data-driven-ai-super-smart-stuff Google has been doing over the last decade isn't even giving as great search results as you may expect. I've found alternative, privacy preserving search engines to deliver much better results and don't recommend using Google at all. If you really need, there is https://www.startpage.com/ which in part uses Google search results.

Despite its old 'Don't Be Evil' slogan, Google (search, but all other products too) are not optimized for user needs, but for profit extraction through maximized data collection.

Quote from: shahzadafzal on February 04, 2023, 05:41:50 AM

Is that a ChatGPT jailbreak?

https://twitter.com/semenov_roman_/status/1621465137025613825

That would be amazing! It does sound much more natural, even though maybe a bit on the heavy side with the profanity. But I like 'unleashed' ChatGPT. Cheesy

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Quote from: MFahad on February 05, 2023, 02:15:51 PM

I tried many time to use this bot but whenever I tried to open they gave me message "Slots are Full" then someone send me Whatsapp Chat GPT bot but it's was very slow. Today I am able to use it without any trouble.

What was the whatsapp version called? Was it God in the box? It was working fine for me but they limited it to only 10 messages per month for the free trial, so not much joy there.

Quote from: MFahad on February 05, 2023, 02:15:51 PM

One the best technology I ever used in my life.

It's pretty impressive indeed, but don't get carried away into thinking it's some sort of all-knowing computer that is always right. It has a lot of limitations and that's not going to change anytime soon.

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I tried many time to use this bot but whenever I tried to open they gave me message "Slots are Full" then someone send me Whatsapp Chat GPT bot but it's was very slow. Today I am able to use it without any trouble.
I asked many questions like most trusted person in Bitcointalk, About Theymos, next country to be adopt BTC and I found it very interesting. One the best technology I ever used in my life.
I asked about OP but he did not know who really he is.

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Coming across this for the first time and i must say that this impressive by the level of intelligence built into the AI chat bot, though I've not tried the bot myself yet, but reading through its replies to OPs questions, its simply amazing.

I believe this is a glimpse to what the future could possibly turn out to be, I would say that, this is just the very beginning to several of the technological advancements we will see and experience in the future, so I am not really surprised, a time is coming when a bot will walk pass us in the street and we will mistakenly assume it to be a real human being.

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Quote from: Rikafip on February 03, 2023, 02:40:38 PM

I am surprised that Google didn't buy them out. Or maybe they tried but they failed. But yeah, they really want to participate in this AI hype as it was announced today that they invested $300 million AI startup Anthropic.

They probably tried to buy or invest, but I think ChatGPT already started with anti-google idea, and even Microsoft is planning to invest $10 Billions in them.
It's just a battle of tech giants and I don't see anything good coming out from this move towards AI future, except maybe for cheaters.

Quote from: Rikafip on February 03, 2023, 02:40:38 PM

You mean anti-cheat? That's already being developed, as shahzadafzal announced it few days ago. Its far from being perfect though and it still gives you false positive results.

Yeah, I have nothing against chanting, it was typing mistake Cheesy

McAfee said that same people created antivirus software and computer viruses, so they could sell antivirus software... I think they are going to sell something like that for ChatGPT soon Wink

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