Topic: [BitCoinTalk][COVID-19] Grim Reality (Read 2375 times)
Bump - India sets another one day record with ~4,250 deaths in the last 24 hours.
Please see this post in the thread [Flag] Bruno AKA Phinnaeus Gage, Gleb Gamow, YuTü.Co.in, Bitcoin 100 & ?? ?? concerning an account that has been hacked after the user has apparently died (as this thread tried to forewarn you all of)
I'm pretty sure Satoshi was well over even late 30's which is not old at all and hopefully covid doesnt alter that. He has to be of that age to have caught the macro economic contrast from relative normality of previous decades to this century which has got increasingly bizarre monetary policy. Unfortunately it has to matter because Covid represents an extreme but perfectly natural event in human history, natural deflation and a pullback in an economy where FED policy in theory could never allow deflation or a contraction because it could topple all these giant debt loads.
The virus is serious but I think the deaths and trouble will not last as long as the badly handled failure from poor policy. I think history and the 1920's shows us that is easily possible not that I think history repeats but apparently governments have the habit of dragging things out which is to make it worse. They are management at best not the actual economy, stand in the way or over interference and it becomes the problem.
Young people have the disadvantage of not even knowing what normal is now, it could mean the onset of populism which means we waste time trying things which dont work, it did Venezuela no benefit or anywhere else
The virus is serious but I think the deaths and trouble will not last as long as the badly handled failure from poor policy. I think history and the 1920's shows us that is easily possible not that I think history repeats but apparently governments have the habit of dragging things out which is to make it worse. They are management at best not the actual economy, stand in the way or over interference and it becomes the problem.
Young people have the disadvantage of not even knowing what normal is now, it could mean the onset of populism which means we waste time trying things which dont work, it did Venezuela no benefit or anywhere else
Young people seem to think that a person in their late thirties couldn't understand bitcoin, but remember I mined my first hundred bitcoins, ran a mining guild and busted several large scammers before you guys even read the word bitcoin. 
Sure, it is a wrong thought from young people. They also never have feeling of first using BTC to buy something, pizza for example. And of course, it costs 10,000 BTC to buy a simple pizza (this is just an example, I have never done that). Nobody will believe that a pizza in the past can turn them into billionaires in the present.
Sadly Bruno Kucinskas Jr. has gone to the great block-chain in the sky. (Obituary)
I have added him to the Honour Role I have started for anyone known to have died at this time. There is also a Watch List for those who have fallen silent but it is unclear what their changed circumstances are.
I have added him to the Honour Role I have started for anyone known to have died at this time. There is also a Watch List for those who have fallen silent but it is unclear what their changed circumstances are.
legendary
Activity: 1919
Merit: 1230
AKA Ms-overzealous-condecsending-explitive-account
Sadly, COVID has also becomes the excuse du jour for scammers as in "I have Covid so I can't refund you or send you what you paid for." I have personally experienced that twice. First one (see last post and neg he left me and his current "trust"): http://archive.fo/QmjZb (he never refunded anyone) and the other one was in a PM to me. I'm 72 and hiding under my bed.
I feel like the type of Bitcoiners that are on the forum are recluses to begin with so they have a smaller chance of dying. You combine that with the fact most of the people on here are probably under 40 and you have a death rate significantly below 1 percent.
After I posted about my health issue, I got several PMs from others who were in the same type of boat. We have no idea how old anyone is on this forum.
Young people seem to think that a person in their late thirties couldn't understand bitcoin, but remember I mined my first hundred bitcoins, ran a mining guild and busted several large scammers before you guys even read the word bitcoin.
This website https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus has an accurate tally of people who have contracted Covid-19 as well as the ratio of recovered to fatalities which is currently running at 81% recovered Vs 19% deaths.
Bumping the thread for Bruno.
Please read: [Plead] Phinnaeus Gage's User Moniker Manifested Due to a Malignant Brain Tumor
I have sent a PM to homer for a new hat so that we can spread it all over the forum.
Please read: [Plead] Phinnaeus Gage's User Moniker Manifested Due to a Malignant Brain Tumor
I have sent a PM to homer for a new hat so that we can spread it all over the forum.
I do not have any statistics to back up my claim, just an assumption. As far as Bitcoin usage though, it's not unreasonable to believe that Bitcoin users probably skew towards younger users oppose to the boomer generation and higher.
I've taken note of your thoughts that there will be a <1% fatality rate. Thanks for your input, it's appreciated.
I feel like the type of Bitcoiners that are on the forum are recluses to begin with so they have a smaller chance of dying. You combine that with the fact most of the people on here are probably under 40 and you have a death rate significantly below 1 percent.
1% of 110,000 active users is 1,100 users. In my OP I pared that number down. If we said 1% of 50,000 UID's then that's 500 users. ~0.5% of 50,000 users is still 250 UID's. I'd be interested to see any research on the demographics of bitcointalk users to see where you come up with your numbers and break down of age groups. I'm happy to amend the OP with links to statistics.
I do not have any statistics to back up my claim, just an assumption. As far as Bitcoin usage though, it's not unreasonable to believe that Bitcoin users probably skew towards younger users oppose to the boomer generation and higher.
I feel like the type of Bitcoiners that are on the forum are recluses to begin with so they have a smaller chance of dying. You combine that with the fact most of the people on here are probably under 40 and you have a death rate significantly below 1 percent.
You might be on to something there.
I'm over 40 but I was already a stunningly unsociable git and this gives an extra reason to be so. However travel is my thing so I might lose my mind before my body collapses. I will wander the world in VR and hook up some sort of smellovision too.
I would also hope that people here have more than the average to be able to sustain themselves if things get tight for a bit.
I feel like the type of Bitcoiners that are on the forum are recluses to begin with so they have a smaller chance of dying. You combine that with the fact most of the people on here are probably under 40 and you have a death rate significantly below 1 percent.
1% of 110,000 active users is 1,100 users. In my OP I pared that number down. If we said 1% of 50,000 UID's then that's 500 users. ~0.5% of 50,000 users is still 250 UID's. I'd be interested to see any research on the demographics of bitcointalk users to see where you come up with your numbers and break down of age groups. I'm happy to amend the OP with links to statistics.
I feel like the type of Bitcoiners that are on the forum are recluses to begin with so they have a smaller chance of dying. You combine that with the fact most of the people on here are probably under 40 and you have a death rate significantly below 1 percent.
"Acthar used to cost $40, but Mallinckrodt has raised the price of the drug to over $39,000 per vial."
That was a quote I saw somewhere showing the greed of people during times of need. :/
Source : https://m.slashdot.org/story/367522
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The city of Marietta, Georgia is suing drug manufacturer Mallinckrodt after Mallinckrodt increased the price of the drug Acthar by 97,500%.
The lawsuit, filed in federal court, claims one city employee needs the drug Acthar, which is used to treat seizures in small children.
"Acthar used to cost $40, but Mallinckrodt has raised the price of the drug to over $39,000 per vial," the city claims in the lawsuit. "This eye-popping 97,500% price increase is the result of unlawful and unfair conduct by Mallinckrondt. The city has expended over $2 million for just one patient covered by the city's self-funded health plan...."
Atlanta pharmacist Ira Katz said Acthar is what's called a "biologic" and they can be classified as specialty drugs. "They put them into the specialty class, and the prices are outrageous, just outrageous," Katz said.
The lawsuit, filed in federal court, claims one city employee needs the drug Acthar, which is used to treat seizures in small children.
"Acthar used to cost $40, but Mallinckrodt has raised the price of the drug to over $39,000 per vial," the city claims in the lawsuit. "This eye-popping 97,500% price increase is the result of unlawful and unfair conduct by Mallinckrondt. The city has expended over $2 million for just one patient covered by the city's self-funded health plan...."
Atlanta pharmacist Ira Katz said Acthar is what's called a "biologic" and they can be classified as specialty drugs. "They put them into the specialty class, and the prices are outrageous, just outrageous," Katz said.
I guess he is worried about his own medical expenses and indicating the same ! I am at max level of sadness though.
"Acthar used to cost $40, but Mallinckrodt has raised the price of the drug to over $39,000 per vial."
That was a quote I saw somewhere showing the greed of people during times of need. :/
Here in Canada we've stopped publishing "recovered" numbers, since that recovery test could be used to diagnose.
Bruno, if you need a positive spin on your situation - you have a comfortable place to die. Soon thousands of your countrymen will be suffering slow terrifying deaths alone.
Stay free everyone - virus free.
Bruno, if you need a positive spin on your situation - you have a comfortable place to die. Soon thousands of your countrymen will be suffering slow terrifying deaths alone.
Stay free everyone - virus free.
"Acthar used to cost $40, but Mallinckrodt has raised the price of the drug to over $39,000 per vial."
Here in Canada we've stopped publishing "recovered" numbers, since that recovery test could be used to diagnose.
Bruno, if you need a positive spin on your situation - you have a comfortable place to die. Soon thousands of your countrymen will be suffering slow terrifying deaths alone.
Stay free everyone - virus free.
Bruno, if you need a positive spin on your situation - you have a comfortable place to die. Soon thousands of your countrymen will be suffering slow terrifying deaths alone.
Stay free everyone - virus free.
Just to add one info if anyone can be interested in it.
Here in Italy, we have around 10% fatality rate but "Gimbe" a very reputable source says the number is way higher from the reality because a lot of people are asymptomatic and we haven't tested them all.
As reported here they are estimating this as yesterday prevision.
https://twitter.com/Cartabellotta/status/1242929342260244480
The problem with testing everyone is that it takes too long to do the test on the lab, if I'm not wrong they are talking about 7 hours for every test, and positive persons with symptoms need at least 2 tests.
Here in Italy, we have around 10% fatality rate but "Gimbe" a very reputable source says the number is way higher from the reality because a lot of people are asymptomatic and we haven't tested them all.
As reported here they are estimating this as yesterday prevision.
https://twitter.com/Cartabellotta/status/1242929342260244480
The problem with testing everyone is that it takes too long to do the test on the lab, if I'm not wrong they are talking about 7 hours for every test, and positive persons with symptoms need at least 2 tests.
Shit man, I'm not sure what to say... first I'm learning of this. I couldn't believe it until I saw your post/picture from January..
very sad to hear. You were a big inspiration to me back in the BFL days, and continued to be one throughout the years. I had a bit of an issue with the account selling stuff but I got over it, on a personal level. Keep your spirits up Bruno. I wish you the best.Now, let me rehoist you back up on our shoulders and parade you around the forum in a pink tutu.
April fools!
I was surprised (and laughing) at how many people took this seriously. I thought that this was way more obvious than last year, but I guess not.
- Politeness was how many times you used "please", "sir", "pardon", "apprecia*", "may I", "thanks", and "thank you" in past posts. This is poking a bit of fun at the people who are unnecessarily polite like this.
- Imagination was how many times you posted an image tag in past posts.
- Coins was how many distinct "coins" you mentioned in past posts. A coin was reckoned as any three-letter acronym (so Satoshi got several from things like "FYI" and "CIA"), as well as any word ending in "coin" (like "Bitcoin"). It was distinct coins, so if you posted the word "bitcoin" 100 times, that'd still only count as 1.
- fMerit was calculated according to the posted algorithm. That algorithm is, as nullius pointed out, the min of three runs with different seeds of a linear congruential pseudorandom number generator using the glibc constants.
- Virtue was the edit distance between your name and "Lauda".
- Karma was as described.
Part of the joke with Conway's Game of Life is that since the game is turing-complete, figuring out whether a given configuration terminates equals the halting problem, which is undecidable in the general case. (Though it's maybe not actually undecidable with only an 8x10 input board.) The other part of the joke is that it's just so ridiculous to decide rank in this way, but I guess a lot of people didn't pick up on that...
I had kind of wanted to actually have a running game-of-life board in JavaScript on everyone's profile, but I didn't have time.
(BTW, when are we getting Conway-GoL-Coin? It's Turing-complete!)
Top 20 in Coins
Top 20 in Imagination
Top 20 in Politeness
Gleb/Phinnaeus wins the award for best Bitcointalker overall!
I was surprised (and laughing) at how many people took this seriously. I thought that this was way more obvious than last year, but I guess not.
- Politeness was how many times you used "please", "sir", "pardon", "apprecia*", "may I", "thanks", and "thank you" in past posts. This is poking a bit of fun at the people who are unnecessarily polite like this.
- Imagination was how many times you posted an image tag in past posts.
- Coins was how many distinct "coins" you mentioned in past posts. A coin was reckoned as any three-letter acronym (so Satoshi got several from things like "FYI" and "CIA"), as well as any word ending in "coin" (like "Bitcoin"). It was distinct coins, so if you posted the word "bitcoin" 100 times, that'd still only count as 1.
- fMerit was calculated according to the posted algorithm. That algorithm is, as nullius pointed out, the min of three runs with different seeds of a linear congruential pseudorandom number generator using the glibc constants.
- Virtue was the edit distance between your name and "Lauda".
- Karma was as described.
Part of the joke with Conway's Game of Life is that since the game is turing-complete, figuring out whether a given configuration terminates equals the halting problem, which is undecidable in the general case. (Though it's maybe not actually undecidable with only an 8x10 input board.) The other part of the joke is that it's just so ridiculous to decide rank in this way, but I guess a lot of people didn't pick up on that...
I had kind of wanted to actually have a running game-of-life board in JavaScript on everyone's profile, but I didn't have time.
(BTW, when are we getting Conway-GoL-Coin? It's Turing-complete!
)Top 20 in Coins
Code:
| Gleb Gamow | 1867 |
| BitcoinNational | 1849 |
| gjhiggins | 1675 |
| Phinnaeus Gage | 1541 |
| philipma1957 | 1444 |
| HYPERfuture | 1384 |
| Cryddit | 1341 |
| Spoetnik | 1247 |
| Amph | 1177 |
| TotalPanda | 1175 |
| Lauda | 1110 |
| iCEBREAKER | 1087 |
| ocminer | 1066 |
| cryptohunter | 1033 |
| placebo | 992 |
| DeathAndTaxes | 988 |
| Wilikon | 978 |
| smoothie | 959 |
| killerjoegreece | 945 |
| Vlad2Vlad | 917 |
Top 20 in Imagination
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| ChartBuddy | 69193 |
| Gleb Gamow | 13372 |
| Phinnaeus Gage | 7228 |
| philipma1957 | 6410 |
| Meuh6879 | 5869 |
| erikalui | 5575 |
| Wilikon | 5056 |
| dogie | 5050 |
| Fakhoury | 4708 |
| adamstgBit | 4555 |
| killerjoegreece | 3921 |
| ismart1 | 3823 |
| BADecker | 3745 |
| Zilara12 | 3705 |
| NotLambchop | 3557 |
| Joca97 | 3231 |
| sabotag3x | 3106 |
| cryptonit | 3032 |
| cypherdoc | 2715 |
| tokeweed | 2697 |
Top 20 in Politeness
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| DirectDice | 8317 |
| philipma1957 | 7304 |
| Gleb Gamow | 7095 |
| Phinnaeus Gage | 5729 |
| lightlord | 5649 |
| zazarb | 5273 |
| irfan_pak10 | 5117 |
| minerjones | 5019 |
| smoothie | 4957 |
| JackpotRacer | 4257 |
| Betcoin.AG | 4016 |
| CoolWave | 4010 |
| notlist3d | 4009 |
| ocminer | 3854 |
| URSAY | 3727 |
| secondstrade.com | 3699 |
| condoras | 3602 |
| Muhammed Zakir | 3552 |
| qiwoman2 | 3535 |
| roslinpl | 3491 |
Gleb/Phinnaeus wins the award for best Bitcointalker overall!
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