Topic: [BitCoinTalk][COVID-19] Grim Reality - page 3. (Read 2369 times)

Can we substitute 120+ proof rum for the tea? Kill the virus on the spot or at least feel good failing.

Should I start snorting hot tea so that I can access my naval cavity, then? Take a look at the anatomical structure of your head...

Done?

Alright, now add in the fact that the circulatory system connects to most of the surfaces there via capillary systems.
Okay, now consider that blood circulates and passes right by your lungs.

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Yeah, call me a sceptic but this is what I expect to find on my grandmother's Facebook wall.

Now that I'm in isolation the only gloves I have to hand are boxing gloves. That's going to make typing extremely hard. Can the forum staff make extra big letters for people in similar situations?



Can confirm. I was giving a Liberian hooker cunnilingus when she suddenly remembered she had Ebola. I had a quick cuppa, killed the virus, and then we carried on as before. I really don't understand why all those nincompoops who died from it didn't do that. Sheesh.

I would appreciate any links you have that confirm that.

It is actually suggested to drink a lot of hot fluids on a regular basis, especially tea. Why? Because the virus stays in your nose and mouth for several days before making its way down towards the lungs. Drinking on a regular basis will wash down the virus towards your stomach where the gastric acid will kill it. So drink a lot throughout the day, whether you are healthy or sick.   

Especially if the power goes off even for a few hours.  


Contactless ATM transactions are happening here and now (tap and go is one name used) but no power, no bitcoin. (True paper wallets etc, but we just talked about NOT using paper/polymer money, so paper bitcoin wallets is out)

Transmission not only with paper money but other objects around us that have been contaminated with covid-19. It is true that paper money is a very vulnerable medium of transmission because it is used regularly by everyone and I'm sure not only Covid-19 may be contaminated but there are many other germs and bacteria.

There are many media that can transmit disease to someone without our full awareness, but if transmission can occur through direct contact with objects contaminated by viruses then wash your hands with antisptic or with running water every time you make a transaction involving banknotes and I think this action is a suggested effort.

Until now to get bitcoin or crypto I think we still need paper money and we still have other problems because not all countries legalize bitcoin and other crypto are used as legal currencies.

Yeah a cc stuck into a machine is safe for the teller.

Just remember to clean your hands after pressing keys on the cc machine

I actually received an email from a coffee shop chain here in Oz that said their employees will wash their hands after handling cash (as well as other time stipulated in the email), however the next day (today) said coffee shop chain's counter staff asked for credit card payment as they were reluctant to handle cash.

yep  4 numbers on wiki are

dead  175,000
dead  575,000

infected  700,000,000
infected  1,400,000,000


so  175,000/1,400,000,000  is the lowest death %    0.000125 death rate     x 3 =  0.000375 death rate

and 575,000/700,000,000 is the highest death%     0.0008214 death rate      x 7 = 0.00575  death rate

I have read this virus is just as contagious and is 3x to 7x as deadly.

So  if :

   500,000,000 infected   187,500 low death rate      2,874,900  high death rate
1,000,000,000 infected   375,000 low death rate      5,749,800  high death rate
1,500,000,000 infected   562,500 low death rate      8,624,700  high death rate.


Those are six simple models  pick your poison  huge difference in the numbers.

that 8,624,700 is  a crazy bad number.

On a more personal note my wife has a first cousin that is a nurse she lives in Long Island New York she and her husband have it.

For the past few days the government and doctors in my country issued a statement that the COVID-19 virus could be transmitted and infected through fiat money used for daily shopping., Because we do not know the money we have used has been used by people infected with the virus, if this happens every day that is infected with the COVID-19 virus will multiply doubled.

Doctor's advice, when we trade / buy with banknotes, it is necessary to wash hands, perhaps, which are held and touched by positive people attacked by a virus, quickly spread to people who hold fiat money.

The only way if this could be infected and killed by the COVID-19 virus, when in contact with fiat money automatically all people in this world must use the crypto currency in the sale / purchase transaction, in my opinion, it is to prevent increased casualties.

I don't think so, they are just comparing the best and the worst death case scenarios and where 575,000 are death out of 700,000,000 infected peoples is the worst case.

Thanks for your thoughts and estimates - I'm assuming in the first part of your post that the second set of numbers above should read 375,000/700,000,000 which would be half of the first value.

wiki has estimates on h1n1 during 2009-2010

175,000-575,000 dead 💀


700,000,000-1,400,000,000 infected.

lets pretend

575,000/700,000,000

worst death rate comes from that.


lets pretend

175,000/1,400,000,000

best death rate comes from that.

so that flu was 1 of 1200 worst death rate.

and 1 of 8500 best death rate.

I had h1n1 in fall of 2009 at the age of 52.

I had a 104.3 fever with chillibain symptoms for 10 hours.

worst flu i ever had.

so if this is 3 to 7 x as bad as h1n1.

we are 1 of 160 at worst to 1 of 2800 at best.

note did the math in my head so i could be off.

but if 1 of 160 people die off world wide that would really be bad. and yeah over 500 people would die here.

if 1 in 2800 die world wide maybe 30 people will die here.

Indeed I am - thank you for noticing.

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A couple of people have focused on DT1, this isn't about them - my example went down the pecking order DT1, then DT2 then non DT ranked members.  I could have easily (If I had a breakdown of the numbers) looked at Legendary, Hero ... down the line.  I also mentioned that although statistically it could be x of this rank, y of that rank and so on none of this can be said for certain and could be x^2.3 of this rank and y^0.9 of that rank.

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This is a perfect example of what I am looking for in this thread - evidence that a user stopped posting at this particular time, not after the storm has passed and they then don't come back (if at all) for a very long time.

 

I hope you and your acquaintance are making a speedy recovery.  Please keep us updated if you can.


Being more socially aware can be a good thing when self isolating and the evidence suggest the older you are, the more likely this virus will claim your life.


My intention with this thread is to alert people here that there will be some users who may just stop posting during this time, some we know well, others we may never have read even a single word of.


All good points in your post, I hadn't intended to focus on DT1, if you have that impression, then I'm sorry you thought that.  DT1 accounts are more valuable for resale once hacked - kenzawak is an example of a multiple hacked account.

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This is excellent news, it just needs to be tempered with the known fact that if a user awakens in a few years time who fell silent now, the user may well have died and the account has been compromised.

If a hacker suspects a particular account became inactive at this time, then they could put more effort into hacking that account unnoticed.


From the scarce hard data I found, the younger you are, the less likely you are to contract let alone die from COVID-19 so the game bois can safely keep playing minecraft in their mom's bedrooms.


How does the saying go, the price of freedom is eternal vigilance...

Which probably won't be the case. This could happen of course, but I wouldn't say its likely. The fact that hackers were brought into the conclusion also seems to be a huge jump. Unless, the hackers have information on you, then I would argue that a active person is far more susceptible to hacks because of social engineering, and various other attacks. There's a big misconception that there's a huge load of elite hackers out there that can work on practically no information, and hack users accounts. However, this isn't the case as I would argue most "hackers" are script kiddies, and the other hackers would likely attack the platform, and not individual users unless they were high level targets. For example, such as Satoshi's account or email, thus the account here has been deactivated. If we were to expect a large amount of accounts under attack, then it would likely be through a database leak, rather than individual attacks. Individual attacks would take far too long, and might even be impossible.



This has been something that I've questioned, and many others have. For example, people who are infected with the disease, but are dying from cancer are included in their statistics. However, it isn't clear what actually killed them, and they're treating it as a contribution to other diseases because of it putting more strain on the immune system, however in actuality it may have not been a contributing factor at all. The death rate might well be blown up due to these reasons, because it doesn't seem like they're waiting for a autopsy to confirm their conclusions as it seems that the statistics are up dated as soon as someone is positive, and then later died. I'm wondering whether the statistics upon review after this settles down will be greatly misrepresented.

Why would people believe anything they read and hear on news, tv and internet?

With stats not limiting only to covid, much more bitcointalk members and DT memberts would die from other old and well established viruses, diseases and old age.
Just sayin.

He is suggesting the amount of inactive accounts will go up 2 or 3 or 5 fold.

Isn't causality fun? There should be some error margin to fix due to the fact that dying of the virus is more involved than "get virus -> organ failure" but the nature of accumulated illnesses after-the-fact can also be disputed.

This kind of meta-analysis should be sought after in order to ascertain the definitive death rate. What are the chances of X occurring in a human with these illnesses? Then, add a strain of covid-19... what are the elevated chances now? Perhaps sigma of the weighted delta probabilities would grant us some more closure on the death rate. I'm not sure how countries' reported death rates compare in relation.

Ok, so I’ve been in contact with a confirmed COVID-19 positive over the past 10 days, but have not developed any symptoms (this is true, and fortunately the person is recovering fine). Should I not post in the coming days, either the synthons have made their appearance, or I’ve got an overwhelming amount of work to do, even on lockdown (although in the latter scenario I could always pop a post or two every now and then).   

By the way, there’s still a lot of fuzz around how the death rate is being calculated in different countries, and how it’s evolution is not necessarily due to clinical reasons, but rather statistical ones. For example, Germany seems to consider amongst the deceased only those where the Coronavirus was the primal cause of death. Other countries are considering those that, having died for any reason, had the Coronavirus.

Additionally, the more tests that are extended over to mild symptomatic cases, the less the death rate ratio. Spain is currently focused on testing those with clear symptoms, but not so much on those with mild symptoms, thus the death rate is higher, and will decrease as the test is extended on to the milder cases at some point.