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@Joksim that's the point, they are still here and they are still running the business, so with the money they got they didn't run away anywhere, the website still stands and maybe the improvements were close to nothing and I can understand that but to call it a scam you would need to have people who run away with the money, since bitdice is still here we can't really say it is scam. Call them lazy if you want, that is probably what you are looking for, the word lazy. Because, if someone gets money to do something and fails to do it but still shows up to work every single day, that means they could be lazy (or unsuccessful simply).

I still believe that bitdice is cooking something big which is why they haven't finished it, anything small should have been done already so they must be doing something huge.

Thanks for showing faith

I am very well aware personally how it seems that absolutely nothing is progressing but that's not the case.

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i think you get 7 card and each card you bet odds on what your hand will get..

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Quote from: darewaller on May 11, 2020, 06:04:12 AM

but I don't know if I believe that they are cooking something big since so far no plans have been placed yet.

You can backread some of the posts.

It's about the newer website, there were plans for the upgrade and we're also waiting for that to happen.

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^ I think the whole thing is that this dude both loves this place and hates it as well, love and hate are a lot closer to each other than people realize.

For example, if you are a supporter of a sports team you would know the difference, think about supporting a team and they lost to your rival and then you became the middle of the table type of situation in the rankings as well because of it, you would HATE that team for a while right?

In reality you are supporting that team but they made you feel bad, you support them so that they could make you happy and win everything, that would really make you happy, but they lose so you hate them for it. Do you hate the team that is at the bottom of the league? No, you probably even don't know which one is there neither; it is like that if you ask me.

Well said.

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^ I think the whole thing is that this dude both loves this place and hates it as well, love and hate are a lot closer to each other than people realize.

For example, if you are a supporter of a sports team you would know the difference, think about supporting a team and they lost to your rival and then you became the middle of the table type of situation in the rankings as well because of it, you would HATE that team for a while right?

In reality you are supporting that team but they made you feel bad, you support them so that they could make you happy and win everything, that would really make you happy, but they lose so you hate them for it. Do you hate the team that is at the bottom of the league? No, you probably even don't know which one is there neither; it is like that if you ask me.

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Quote from: joksim299 on May 09, 2020, 06:39:18 PM

Nobody would care if they ruin their own site. They took money and doing nothing, while they explicitly said what they will do and when in the white paper (fairytale) and collected other people money for that purpose.
They didn't say that will use money for their own benefit and if they get bored they will improve the site.

They didn't even open bank account for three years.
Site is exactly the same as it was before ICO.
Online people around 6 at peek.
Zero marketing efforts.
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Where you do get that number? 6 at peak? You should check it once again because im not seeing those numbers most of the time..

About on following their roadmap or goal then it will take for some time.Delays are plausible but at least they do still communicate and said
that there would be future upgrades.If they do have that plan on running their investors money then they wont consider
on showing up their face into this market but we are actually seeing the opposite.

Quote from: sana54210 on May 10, 2020, 03:45:44 AM

I am not saying they are lazy I am just saying that the complains are more inclined towards the lazy and not towards the scam side.

When you are telling someone that "you got so much money but you haven't done anything so far" that is not the scam accusation, that is lazy accusation. That is what I was trying to make it clear and that's it. Of course if you think it is scam or lazy that is up to you.

Otherwise I am not saying it is a lazy situation or scam situation myself, I do not have any opinion honestly about the situation at all. Making that difference clear was very important to me because there are so many scam places going on that I really just wanted to make the difference clear for myself, I can't change others ideas of course they might still think the same.

I understand your point but there are really unexpected instances that would really result into delays, the thing here is that they are still sticking to their words and thats the most important thing.

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Quote from: Juggy777 on May 10, 2020, 01:47:30 AM

Quote from: joksim299 on May 09, 2020, 06:39:18 PM

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Its not appropriate to say that theyre lazy yet we've known the market condition back into the past where Bitdice ICO held and the current market situation as of this moment.
Its just normal to have some delays because value had been greatly affected which should really be used on further improvements but at least they are showing
of that there is indeed a plan for further updates and thats the good thing.

Nobody would care if they ruin their own site. They took money and doing nothing, while they explicitly said what they will do and when in the white paper (fairytale) and collected other people money for that purpose.
They didn't say that will use money for their own benefit and if they get bored they will improve the site.

They didn't even open bank account for three years.
Site is exactly the same as it was before ICO.
Online people around 6 at peek.
Zero marketing efforts.
...

@jokism are you sure you don’t care about Bitdice because last time you said you wanted Bitdice to become number one gambling site?, and now you’re changing your words again?.

His previous statement about the project during the ICO shows that he care but he said those words out of frustrations because he expected so much from the site due to the project team capacity and now he's feeling disappointed cause solid marketing etc is put in placd either. But, i hope BoXXoB reply posted above should be enough to make him understand that the project team are also not happy with the situation.

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Quote from: joksim299 on May 09, 2020, 06:39:18 PM

@Joksim that's the point, they are still here and they are still running the business, so with the money they got they didn't run away anywhere, the website still stands and maybe the improvements were close to nothing and I can understand that but to call it a scam you would need to have people who run away with the money, since bitdice is still here we can't really say it is scam. Call them lazy if you want, that is probably what you are looking for, the word lazy. Because, if someone gets money to do something and fails to do it but still shows up to work every single day, that means they could be lazy (or unsuccessful simply).

I still believe that bitdice is cooking something big which is why they haven't finished it, anything small should have been done already so they must be doing something huge.

Being lazy is different for being scam and I think they are on lazy part since they didn't do any something big with the money they got from their ICO but I don't know if I believe that they are cooking something big since so far no plans have been placed yet. Maybe it's best to post the plans so that the people who invest and support Bitdice will know on what will happen to them on future and also they can calm the minds of the people who doubt about them right now.

Its not appropriate to say that theyre lazy yet we've known the market condition back into the past where Bitdice ICO held and the current market situation as of this moment.
Its just normal to have some delays because value had been greatly affected which should really be used on further improvements but at least they are showing
of that there is indeed a plan for further updates and thats the good thing.

I am not saying they are lazy I am just saying that the complains are more inclined towards the lazy and not towards the scam side.

When you are telling someone that "you got so much money but you haven't done anything so far" that is not the scam accusation, that is lazy accusation. That is what I was trying to make it clear and that's it. Of course if you think it is scam or lazy that is up to you.

Otherwise I am not saying it is a lazy situation or scam situation myself, I do not have any opinion honestly about the situation at all. Making that difference clear was very important to me because there are so many scam places going on that I really just wanted to make the difference clear for myself, I can't change others ideas of course they might still think the same.

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Its not appropriate to say that theyre lazy yet we've known the market condition back into the past where Bitdice ICO held and the current market situation as of this moment.
Its just normal to have some delays because value had been greatly affected which should really be used on further improvements but at least they are showing
of that there is indeed a plan for further updates and thats the good thing.

Nobody would care if they ruin their own site. They took money and doing nothing, while they explicitly said what they will do and when in the white paper (fairytale) and collected other people money for that purpose.
They didn't say that will use money for their own benefit and if they get bored they will improve the site.

They didn't even open bank account for three years.
Site is exactly the same as it was before ICO.
Online people around 6 at peek.
Zero marketing efforts.
...

@jokism are you sure you don’t care about Bitdice because last time you said you wanted Bitdice to become number one gambling site?, and now you’re changing your words again?.

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I'm trying to be constructive and to motivate team to.bring new site live faster.
I'm not against Bitdice I just expected them to become No. 1 dice site I love them and playing since launch

I also believe that you have asked this question to @BoXXoB before and he has already provided you with all the information he had, but yet you keep asking these questions again and again and hence may I too ask what are you trying to gain from this?.

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Joksim is trying to make a case about how the money that has already been spent has gone into vain which he keeps repeating. One doesn't have to look farther than the quarterly reports to see what the money has been spent on. The expenses haven't been directed at something specific only but on the entire project. I don't understand half of the gimmicks it takes to run a casino let alone something that aims to serve fiat users. I am fairly sure Joksim doesn't understand exactly how complex everything is to set up either.

So to simplify: the money that has been spent has not gone into nothing. It's an ongoing progress and despite seemingly static, it is definitely not.

We've been trying to explain that the promises that have yet to be delivered are going to be delivered despite the long delays.

Now my conclusion about this scam accusation is that its aim is to make BitDice lose its reputation. Question is: what's the gain from this?

Bitdice quarterly reports:

https://medium.com/@BitDice/bitdice-casino-quarterly-report-q4-2019-1464449bc3cf

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@Joksim that's the point, they are still here and they are still running the business, so with the money they got they didn't run away anywhere, the website still stands and maybe the improvements were close to nothing and I can understand that but to call it a scam you would need to have people who run away with the money, since bitdice is still here we can't really say it is scam. Call them lazy if you want, that is probably what you are looking for, the word lazy. Because, if someone gets money to do something and fails to do it but still shows up to work every single day, that means they could be lazy (or unsuccessful simply).

I still believe that bitdice is cooking something big which is why they haven't finished it, anything small should have been done already so they must be doing something huge.

Being lazy is different for being scam and I think they are on lazy part since they didn't do any something big with the money they got from their ICO but I don't know if I believe that they are cooking something big since so far no plans have been placed yet. Maybe it's best to post the plans so that the people who invest and support Bitdice will know on what will happen to them on future and also they can calm the minds of the people who doubt about them right now.

Its not appropriate to say that theyre lazy yet we've known the market condition back into the past where Bitdice ICO held and the current market situation as of this moment.
Its just normal to have some delays because value had been greatly affected which should really be used on further improvements but at least they are showing
of that there is indeed a plan for further updates and thats the good thing.

Nobody would care if they ruin their own site. They took money and doing nothing, while they explicitly said what they will do and when in the white paper (fairytale) and collected other people money for that purpose.
They didn't say that will use money for their own benefit and if they get bored they will improve the site.

They didn't even open bank account for three years.
Site is exactly the same as it was before ICO.
Online people around 6 at peek.
Zero marketing efforts.
...

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@Joksim that's the point, they are still here and they are still running the business, so with the money they got they didn't run away anywhere, the website still stands and maybe the improvements were close to nothing and I can understand that but to call it a scam you would need to have people who run away with the money, since bitdice is still here we can't really say it is scam. Call them lazy if you want, that is probably what you are looking for, the word lazy. Because, if someone gets money to do something and fails to do it but still shows up to work every single day, that means they could be lazy (or unsuccessful simply).

I still believe that bitdice is cooking something big which is why they haven't finished it, anything small should have been done already so they must be doing something huge.

Being lazy is different for being scam and I think they are on lazy part since they didn't do any something big with the money they got from their ICO but I don't know if I believe that they are cooking something big since so far no plans have been placed yet. Maybe it's best to post the plans so that the people who invest and support Bitdice will know on what will happen to them on future and also they can calm the minds of the people who doubt about them right now.

Its not appropriate to say that theyre lazy yet we've known the market condition back into the past where Bitdice ICO held and the current market situation as of this moment.
Its just normal to have some delays because value had been greatly affected which should really be used on further improvements but at least they are showing
of that there is indeed a plan for further updates and thats the good thing.

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Quote from: BoXXoB on May 08, 2020, 08:15:54 AM

@Joksim that's the point, they are still here and they are still running the business, so with the money they got they didn't run away anywhere, the website still stands and maybe the improvements were close to nothing and I can understand that but to call it a scam you would need to have people who run away with the money, since bitdice is still here we can't really say it is scam. Call them lazy if you want, that is probably what you are looking for, the word lazy. Because, if someone gets money to do something and fails to do it but still shows up to work every single day, that means they could be lazy (or unsuccessful simply).

I still believe that bitdice is cooking something big which is why they haven't finished it, anything small should have been done already so they must be doing something huge.

Being lazy is different for being scam and I think they are on lazy part since they didn't do any something big with the money they got from their ICO but I don't know if I believe that they are cooking something big since so far no plans have been placed yet. Maybe it's best to post the plans so that the people who invest and support Bitdice will know on what will happen to them on future and also they can calm the minds of the people who doubt about them right now.

Thanks for showing faith

I am very well aware personally how it seems that absolutely nothing is progressing but that's not the case.

@Taskford @sana54210 Bitdice is not a scam site, and their team is not lazy as they’re working in the background, and this was repeatedly told by @BoXXoB to @joksim but he just kept on ignoring those words. I’m quoting some of @BoXXoB posts to clear out the misunderstandings, and I hope you’ll will continue to hold on to your faith as Bitdice 5.0 is coming very soon.

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He is aware of the thread. I believe the biggest issue is that there's not been updates on the site. I've tried to explain that it's being worked currently and the new release is getting pretty close although there's still work to do.

This speculation is just that... speculation and I doubt it's going to change until there's a new release. Of course this is my personal opinion so feel free to disagree. As I've mentioned in multiple occasions, nobody is hiding the fact that there's been delays. I find it pretty silly to call the site a scam while things are being worked on. Right now it feels more like pressuring the site to rush out a release just for the sake of it.

I have personally seen what kind of progress has been made (for example how the new design is going to look like) but if people don't believe that, I'm unsure what else to say. The upcoming quarterly report should contain information and possibly concrete evidence of what has been done.

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We have addressed that fact and have also stated that the new website is in the final stage of development. In other words, promises have been delayed a lot which is not something we're hiding. But we're working on delivering on those promises.

As you’ll can see that @BoXXoB has clarified on multiple occasions on what’s been done, and what’s in progress but @jokism has conveniently ignored his clarifications for some weird reason. In my personal opinion Bitdice has been as transparent as they can be, and work was indeed done in the background, but as you’ll can read and understand that this kind of work cannot be published until it’s completely tested.

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BitDice 5.0

The preparation process is being carried out as planned. After our completion of the UX/UI templates, we’ve made a weighted decision to change our contractor company. Although this decision did cause a certain delay to initial launch dates, eventually it will certainly have a positive influence on the final version of the product.

As of now, dozens of web pages had been designed with others soon to follow. Every element of the new design, regardless of how small, is being double-checked to meet UX/UI best practices requirements with the ultimate goal for the product to reach the highest standards of user-friendliness. After that, the elements are tested in focus groups.

Although there is a slight deviation from the dates that were set initially, we expect the launch to take place at the beginning of Q2 2020.

Source:

https://medium.com/@BitDice/bitdice-casino-quarterly-report-q4-2019-1464449bc3cf

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Quote from: darewaller on May 06, 2020, 03:33:12 PM

@Joksim that's the point, they are still here and they are still running the business, so with the money they got they didn't run away anywhere, the website still stands and maybe the improvements were close to nothing and I can understand that but to call it a scam you would need to have people who run away with the money, since bitdice is still here we can't really say it is scam. Call them lazy if you want, that is probably what you are looking for, the word lazy. Because, if someone gets money to do something and fails to do it but still shows up to work every single day, that means they could be lazy (or unsuccessful simply).

I still believe that bitdice is cooking something big which is why they haven't finished it, anything small should have been done already so they must be doing something huge.

Thanks for showing faith

I am very well aware personally how it seems that absolutely nothing is progressing but that's not the case.

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I got quoted and didn't checked the other quotes and saw that the message was an aggressive one and I was like "I never said anything remotely close to this topic, why are they saying this to me?" and then checked other messages and saw all the talks about the ICO Cheesy

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I don't care about any of that, the casino is here and they are still going on, which shows the whole world that technically this could never be a scam or anything since they are here, they have never went anywhere. Sure you may not like the speed and pace they are working on, maybe you want them to do something quicker, but "they are working slow so they are scam" is not a thing, they should have taken the money and left in order to be scam, since they are here and went nowhere, it can never be scam. Just a good company or a bad company difference from person to person, you may like it or dislike it, but can't really label it.

Well said. Of course, I'm a supporter and you could argue that I'm only saying what I'm expected to say, but I've only ever joined campaigns I personally support and believe in, and besides, they could have upped and gone many times. They have not.

Going back to your SEO point, I also thought Google made some changes last year to make SEO not as important as -- what you said. Not just backlinks but mentions (without linking). I completely agree with you. People get known from advertising and SEO. Awareness is always good.

But people get famous because others talk about them (good or bad).

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