Bitfinex HACKED - funds stolen ! - page 15.

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Quote from: CjMapope on August 07, 2016, 08:55:42 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on August 07, 2016, 08:53:24 PM

Quote from: bones261 on August 07, 2016, 08:50:24 PM

What exactly am I supposed to do with my newly acquired 141 BFX tokens? Since I live in the US and the trading of them will be limited for me, are they just there to remind me of my folly? Cheesy

I believe that the PR guy has said that US customer will be able to withdraw them. I suspect that this will allow for OTC trading of them and possibly trading of them on other exchanges.

tht would be nice, who knows maybe we will end up with getting our money back, even if it takes months of holding/selling tokens...

#Searchingforasilverlining

I'm probably just going to liquidate ASAP and leave Bitfinex. The sooner that I can forget this bad memory, the better. Hope you can finesse these tokens in a boon for you rather than a boondoggle.

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Quote from: Quickseller on August 07, 2016, 08:53:24 PM

Quote from: bones261 on August 07, 2016, 08:50:24 PM

What exactly am I supposed to do with my newly acquired 141 BFX tokens? Since I live in the US and the trading of them will be limited for me, are they just there to remind me of my folly? Cheesy

I believe that the PR guy has said that US customer will be able to withdraw them. I suspect that this will allow for OTC trading of them and possibly trading of them on other exchanges.

tht would be nice, who knows maybe we will end up with getting our money back, even if it takes months of holding/selling tokens...

#Searchingforasilverlining

Quickseller

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Quote from: bones261 on August 07, 2016, 08:50:24 PM

What exactly am I supposed to do with my newly acquired 141 BFX tokens? Since I live in the US and the trading of them will be limited for me, are they just there to remind me of my folly? Cheesy

I believe that the PR guy has said that US customer will be able to withdraw them. I suspect that this will allow for OTC trading of them and possibly trading of them on other exchanges.

bones261

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What exactly am I supposed to do with my newly acquired 141 BFX tokens? Since I live in the US and the trading of them will be limited for me, are they just there to remind me of my folly? Cheesy

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'The right to privacy matters'

Looks like a win for ETH_ETC and a loss for BTC.

Lets see 60 million in BTC stolen and BTC blockchains helps thief steal it .

ETH has a 120 million dollar loss and developers find a way to fix it and create a second gpu coin to mine in ETC.

win win for ETC_ETH

loss for BTC

BTC has to solve its scaling issues right now exchanges are how BTC becomes liquid since it can't do more then 700,000 transactions on a perfect day on the blockchain.

Allowing exchanges to 'Steal' BTC or hackers to 'Steal' BTC over and over and over and over and over and over is not going to work.

I suffered no loss with the ETC_ETH fork
I suffered a 240 of 720 usd loss with the bitfinex hack.

ETH developers saved the day
BTC developers will allow the coins to be mixed away and won't increase the transaction cap in effect on BTC which is forcing off chain trades with crooked or incompetent exchanges.

Not good for a heavy hitter with big cash.

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on August 07, 2016, 07:28:52 AM

Jerry Seinfeld to Police Officer: my bike was stolen!

Police: ok, I'll take a report.

Seinfeld: I'm never going to see my bike again, am I?

Police: No, no your not.

Seinfeld: So why are you making a report?

Police: It makes people feel good, like they've done something. I don't really turn in these reports, it's too much work for nothing.

Just forget about your bitcoins. You're never going to see them again and the police won't do anything, even if they knew what Bitcoin is and knew how to trace them.

And need to underline the police just wanna to take care of the criminal is regulated on the constitution maybe it's wrong if you trying to report on the police not in the cyber crime section but the ending in my opinions is always same, will useless.

Doamader

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Well hackers dont work for free would be good to call anonymous group to investigate those deeply, atleast we would know where the bitcoins went,and are, makes no sense a huge attack and no information about the problem, besides we lost 120k bitcoins thats all, have a nice weekend.

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Quote from: data1 on August 07, 2016, 03:59:23 PM

i do not see any link where hacker moved the balance and the site didn't give it too. it states that maybe the funds are not stolen they has steel it

well it was made smoothly i guess though i hope that the hacker is going to be compromised, in my opinion he will sooner or later have to return all the bitcoins

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Quote from: smoothie on August 07, 2016, 04:53:36 PM

Quote from: useless4 on August 07, 2016, 03:58:10 PM

Quote from: naidray on August 07, 2016, 03:41:58 PM

Quote from: angryswamp on August 07, 2016, 07:12:45 AM

its really sad to see that such stuff happens, fortunately i didnt have any money in it

This is pretty common.
Remember gox and cryptsy? They had security breach as well and were slowly going bankrupt until they went public. This is why I never fully trust hot wallets from exchangers. I would always transfer them to a desktop or a hardware wallet everytime I'm done using it.

yeah, i bitcoin world i think it is not the first and not the last time because these websites sometimes are legit robbed and sometimes they just scam people

centralized exchanges are obsolete before they are even made obsolete.

Decentralized exchanges exist, but how many actually use them?

I haven't done much research into it, but I would imagine a decentralized exchange not being able to operate fiat to crypto (and reverse) trades etc.

Fiat is sticky in the sense that it usually only goes along with a centralized platform.

Problem with decentralized exchanges is you to get multiple coins on the same chain, you need to temp. swap for a placeholder asset which means you're trusting a central authority to exchange you back the real coins

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Quote from: useless4 on August 07, 2016, 03:58:10 PM

Quote from: naidray on August 07, 2016, 03:41:58 PM

Quote from: angryswamp on August 07, 2016, 07:12:45 AM

its really sad to see that such stuff happens, fortunately i didnt have any money in it

This is pretty common.
Remember gox and cryptsy? They had security breach as well and were slowly going bankrupt until they went public. This is why I never fully trust hot wallets from exchangers. I would always transfer them to a desktop or a hardware wallet everytime I'm done using it.

yeah, i bitcoin world i think it is not the first and not the last time because these websites sometimes are legit robbed and sometimes they just scam people

centralized exchanges are obsolete before they are even made obsolete.

Decentralized exchanges exist, but how many actually use them?

I haven't done much research into it, but I would imagine a decentralized exchange not being able to operate fiat to crypto (and reverse) trades etc.

Fiat is sticky in the sense that it usually only goes along with a centralized platform.

data1

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i do not see any link where hacker moved the balance and the site didn't give it too. it states that maybe the funds are not stolen they has steel it

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Quote from: naidray on August 07, 2016, 03:41:58 PM

Quote from: angryswamp on August 07, 2016, 07:12:45 AM

its really sad to see that such stuff happens, fortunately i didnt have any money in it

This is pretty common.
Remember gox and cryptsy? They had security breach as well and were slowly going bankrupt until they went public. This is why I never fully trust hot wallets from exchangers. I would always transfer them to a desktop or a hardware wallet everytime I'm done using it.

yeah, i bitcoin world i think it is not the first and not the last time because these websites sometimes are legit robbed and sometimes they just scam people

naidray

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Quote from: angryswamp on August 07, 2016, 07:12:45 AM

its really sad to see that such stuff happens, fortunately i didnt have any money in it

This is pretty common.
Remember gox and cryptsy? They had security breach as well and were slowly going bankrupt until they went public. This is why I never fully trust hot wallets from exchangers. I would always transfer them to a desktop or a hardware wallet everytime I'm done using it.

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This issue of cryptocurrenxy entities being 'hacked ' is becoming common. There is a lot to be desired about the 'hacking'than meets the eye. There seems to be a cartel that is out to fleece people of their coins. This means that if you want to get rich, just start an exchange or a gambling site and people will accumulate their coins there. Once enough has been accumulates, you stage-manage hacking and get all the coins for yourself.

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I guess that majority of the traders are somehow aware of the risks involved with centralized crypto exchanges. The irony in these repetitive situations is that with a tiny small fraction of the stolen money community can crowdfund decent decentralized exchange. Maybe "hacker" will do it.

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

Quote from: GreenBits on August 07, 2016, 09:15:51 AM

Dumbass tax is brilliant, and I will be using this phrase liberally in the altcoin section from now on. It pretty much sums up this entire sphere, lol. Thank you sir

my dad used this phrase on me when i was a youngster.

i still pay it here and there but thankfully, less than i used to.

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Quote from: tvbcof on August 07, 2016, 12:01:04 PM

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on August 07, 2016, 09:24:00 AM

Feel free to use it. I wish I could claim ownership of that phrase. My father ran a used car dealership. He used to raise the price of some vehicles when certain people came in to buy a car. When I was a teenager I worked with him for a couple of years and asked him why he did that to certain people. He told me he had an eye for spotting people that could afford the "dumbass tax".

Stealing from myself from a few years ago:

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One of the SomethingAwful guys came up with the following characterization a few years ago which I'll paraphrase:

"Bitcoin involves smart criminals, dumb Libertarians, and people of ambiguous intellect taking advantage of both."

...

Now, in 2016 and after the long anticipated (by me at least) so-called 'hack' of Bitfinished I'll suggest that those of us who are mainly whole and are still operational in this forum and under a stable persona tend to bin heavily into the last category. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's the sense I get.

I'll admit to paying the 'dumbass tax' in most of transactions I've made involving vehicles over my life. When this has not been the case it has been mostly a result of dumb luck. Bitcoin and other financial sphere decisions have made it so that I can accept this form of tax when I choose to and when I want to focus on other priories.

might as well change that to politicians bankers and rich people

they are the ones who wrote that dumb line anyway

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on August 07, 2016, 09:24:00 AM

Feel free to use it. I wish I could claim ownership of that phrase. My father ran a used car dealership. He used to raise the price of some vehicles when certain people came in to buy a car. When I was a teenager I worked with him for a couple of years and asked him why he did that to certain people. He told me he had an eye for spotting people that could afford the "dumbass tax".

Stealing from myself from a few years ago:

Quote

One of the SomethingAwful guys came up with the following characterization a few years ago which I'll paraphrase:

"Bitcoin involves smart criminals, dumb Libertarians, and people of ambiguous intellect taking advantage of both."

...

Now, in 2016 and after the long anticipated (by me at least) so-called 'hack' of Bitfinished I'll suggest that those of us who are mainly whole and are still operational in this forum and under a stable persona tend to bin heavily into the last category. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it's the sense I get.

I'll admit to paying the 'dumbass tax' in most of transactions I've made involving vehicles over my life. When this has not been the case it has been mostly a result of dumb luck. Bitcoin and other financial sphere decisions have made it so that I can accept this form of tax when I choose to and when I want to focus on other priories.

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Quote from: QuestionAuthority on August 07, 2016, 09:07:08 AM

Quote from: mayax on August 07, 2016, 08:14:13 AM

Quote from: QuestionAuthority on August 07, 2016, 07:28:52 AM

Jerry Seinfeld to Police Officer: my bike was stolen!

Police: ok, I'll take a report.

Seinfeld: I'm never going to see my bike again, am I?

Police: No, no your not.

Seinfeld: So why are you making a report?

Police: It makes people feel good, like they've done something. I don't really turn in these reports, it's too much work for nothing.

Just forget about your bitcoins. You're never going to see them again and the police won't do anything, even if they knew what Bitcoin is and knew how to trace them.

and what about Bitfinex? forget it too?

let it run the same business as nothing happened?

Oh, have they reopened already? LOL

Bitfinex is gone. They will not reopen.

If they reopened and anyone was stupid enough to give them money then they deserve to lose it. I call that, "paying the dumbass tax". That's the tax you have to pay because you're a dumbass. The owners of Bitfinex must know their business is over. Then again, people paid the dumbass tax to ButterFuck Labs for mining equipment over a year after it was well known that they were thieves.

BTW: The real loss in all this is consumer confidence. The more these incidents happen the more people look at Bitcoin as a den of thieves. The people losing all their bitcoins to these constant crooked businesses and exchanges will leave Bitcoin forever and start talking shit about it to anyone that will listen.

Well I guess all the equipment and time spent for maintenance and other things are all paid up that is why they already run. Plus a lot of profit. Of course you will never run yet when all of that is not paid enough.

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You lead and I'll watch you walk away.

Feel free to use it. I wish I could claim ownership of that phrase. My father ran a used car dealership. He used to raise the price of some vehicles when certain people came in to buy a car. When I was a teenager I worked with him for a couple of years and asked him why he did that to certain people. He told me he had an eye for spotting people that could afford the "dumbass tax".

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