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legendary
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Be A Digital Miner
April 18, 2013, 10:44:21 AM
I had placed an ACH withdraw request in yesterday prior to the suspending announcement.  It posted to the bank account this morning on time, like every time.  For those worried about Roman stealing funds this was a very very large ACH.  If he was looking to steal anyone's funds I would expect he would have started with this one.
It would appear that you are very lucky then.   To have made that large withdrawl and to have been one of the lucky ones to have been notified.   Two great pieces of luck, you must be living good.   And, did you say you also were lucky and got out of another near miss too?  Wow.

I wasn't notified.  The ACH withdraw was routine and before trading was suspended.  Our company uses (used) bitfloor to offload excess coins.  We make an ACH withdraw at least once a day.  My point was not that I was somehow special.  ACH withdraws are going out.  I made another ACH withdraw for the balance after the suspension, and I have no doubt it will hit our account Friday or Monday.

If you can see past all the FUD you are slinging the point was ACH withdraws and BTC withdraws are being processed.  Users who are verified should withdraw their funds.  Users who are not verified should either get verified or wait to see if bitfloor is able to secure an alternate bank account and resume trading.
I do not consider my opinion FUD.   But if that seems to be your best logical argument (name calling) it says a lot more about who you are then who I am). 
Good Day.
donator
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Gerald Davis
April 18, 2013, 10:42:13 AM
I had placed an ACH withdraw request in yesterday prior to the suspending announcement.  It posted to the bank account this morning on time, like every time.  For those worried about Roman stealing funds this was a very very large ACH.  If he was looking to steal anyone's funds I would expect he would have started with this one.
It would appear that you are very lucky then.   To have made that large withdrawl and to have been one of the lucky ones to have been notified.   Two great pieces of luck, you must be living good.   And, did you say you also were lucky and got out of another near miss too?  Wow.

I wasn't notified either on my personal email or our company email.  The ACH withdraw was routine and before trading was suspended.  Our company uses (used) bitfloor to dump excess coins.  We make an ACH withdraw at least once a day.  Due to the chaos of the last week the ACH withdraw was larger than normal and it cleared without issue. My point was not that I was somehow special.  My point was that ACH withdraws are going out, BTC withdraws are going out.  Maybe people should stop speculating about frozen accounts, and stolen funds and just make a withdraw.

If you can see past all the FUD you are slinging that is.
legendary
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Be A Digital Miner
April 18, 2013, 10:39:41 AM
I do not think he is stealing, but incompetence is tantamount to fraud.

As a business start-up manager myself, could you please explain to me how having your bank account closed on you is a form of incompetence? I'd like to learn so that I can avoid the same problem with my business.
Banks are regulated.   They take the risk of having any client launder money VERY seriously.  If you are operating a business that will require a lot of deposits and withdraws each day by MANY different people, you need to meet with compliance at the bank.   Give me the example of the problem you are having and I might have a suggestion (if you are not just trolling).   It is always better to meet with them BEFORE, because if it gets red flagged your chances of explaining are slim (they are risk adverse when it comes to regs and if you do not meet before you do not have a business account manager saying "this should comply" you only have the bureaucrat.
This is not rocket science.   Anyone who has run a real business would know this.   Anyone who has had a successful business that took credit cards and the business grew so fast that the processor started calling would know this.
sr. member
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April 18, 2013, 10:34:23 AM
Lol, just withdraw it, I don't know what all the fuss is.
who wants to wait a week+ to get USD in bank, then wait another week to get it back onto another exchange? what the hell are you talking about. its obivous you are a bitfloor apologist. i am not anti-bitfloor, i liked them very much and recommended them often.

Lol stfu fool. I am not a "bitfloor apologist" I am just in touch with reality. Everyone's pretending there's some major issue with USD like it was stolen or something - YES DUH it's a minor inconvenience to have to remove your USD from an exchange that is indefinitely closed - but it's an ACH transfer away from your bank account. It's safe, no "fuss" involved.
Also, you don't have to wait 2 weeks. Assuming you already have ACH verified, which is a good measure if you have USD sitting around because NO exchange is 100% safe, you wait 2 days to have it transferred and then 1/2 an hour if you use another exchange/funding service that allows bank deposits, or 2 days if you use an exchange that accepts USPS money order by mail. Your 2 week estimate is only if you (1) didn't have ACH verified at bitfloor, and (2) pick the longest possible funding option for exchanges. 2-4 days is not so bad. Chill out. I ain't no "apologist."
Bitfloor stole what, 20,000 BTC from customers last summer/fall. I still can't understand why anyone would trust them with a dime after that. This result is far from surprising.
Oh good, another fool to school. As was stated elsewhere in this thread:
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but if youre an idiot for using a service thats been hacked then everyone is an idiot. every MS user, every google user, every facebook user, every adobe user, and probably every bitcointalk user too..

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Can you please provide some backup to the claim that Bitfloor stole the money themselves, as opposed to Bitfloor having the money stolen from them?
Your [BlackLilac's] claim that Bitfloor themselves stole that money is quite a leap. It was hacked because Roman was stupid enough to leave a "cold" wallet on a web-facing box that he thought was secure. Those users are being payed back slowly but steadily with current and future profits. Sure, there's a possibility that he stole it himself, intending it as a sort of long-term forced loan. However, Bitfloor provides a UI and service that many people find preferable to all the other exchanges - and the cash deposit feature is simply unbeatable. What's happening here is that you are issuing a value judgement based on other peoples' risk/benefit analyses. For some people, the value of such a service, weighed against the redeeming factors surrounding the hack (changed security measures, now stores 100% of client funds in a TRUELY cold wallet, is paying back customers who were robbed) results in a risk/benefit analysis that indicates Bitfloor is a strong choice compared to other exchanges (which are dropping left and right, shutting down constantly, and many have been hacked in the past.)
If you  are an idiot for using bitfloor, then everyone on the internet is an idiot (including you) for it is nearly impossible to find a service that has not been hacked. Heck, I even get mail from various financial institutions (that I did business with many years ago) at least once a year saying their data center was compromised and information compromising my identity was stolen. Paypal regularly freezes/steals business or consumer accounts arbitrarily, nearly all of us have used Paypal at some point. So chill out with the attitude bro.
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When the money shows up in my bank account, I am just going to invest in something safe like a tax-free Roth IRA or the S&P market... -.-
I lol'd at 'safe' Grin

Oh, in response to another poster's question, ACH does have to be verified. Certain regulations regarding ACH have to be followed. So he can't just throw the funds into your account. It will take 2-3 business days to verify ACH. Some establishments require a verification that involves confirming a tiny amount that was deposited, and some require an ID - no significant difference, because in both cases you are providing your name and proving that you personally are tied to that account. There is no anonymity with ACH. But putting USD anywhere is a risk, and if you aren't aware of the relatively common practice of Banksters fucking over bitcoin exchanges, putting USD in an exchange probably wasn't a good idea if y'all didn't do your research first Grin
So if you are going for anonymity and were registered through Tor with a tormail.org email and only deposited via cash deposit, your weak link was the USD you left there ;-D Sucks, right? (And of course the BoA security camera, lol.) Let this be a lesson. 
sr. member
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April 18, 2013, 10:31:26 AM
I do not think he is stealing, but incompetence is tantamount to fraud.

As a business start-up manager myself, could you please explain to me how having your bank account closed on you is a form of incompetence? I'd like to learn so that I can avoid the same problem with my business.

+1, especially in the BTC economy, +1, sir.
legendary
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April 18, 2013, 10:24:48 AM
I do not think he is stealing, but incompetence is tantamount to fraud.

As a business start-up manager myself, could you please explain to me how having your bank account closed on you is a form of incompetence? I'd like to learn so that I can avoid the same problem with my business.
full member
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April 18, 2013, 10:18:45 AM
I've been using CampBX for quite some time now. No issues. You should give it a try.
legendary
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Be A Digital Miner
April 18, 2013, 09:52:21 AM
I had placed an ACH withdraw request in yesterday prior to the suspending announcement.  It posted to the bank account this morning on time, like every time.  For those worried about Roman stealing funds this was a very very large ACH.  If he was looking to steal anyone's funds I would expect he would have started with this one.
It would appear that you are very lucky then.   To have made that large withdrawl and to have been one of the lucky ones to have been notified.   Two great pieces of luck, you must be living good.   And, did you say you also were lucky and got out of another near miss too?  Wow.
I do not think he is stealing, but incompetence is tantamount to fraud.   there is a lot of truth to this statement which is why i insist BFL is fraud (because they have constantly lied compounding their incompetence when they have taken money from people on the CLAIM that they are expert).   
sr. member
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April 18, 2013, 09:35:09 AM
sigh

from twtitter:
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We will not be converting USD balances to BTC for withdraw. USD must be withdrawn via ACH. International users stay tuned for wire details.

such a fkn joke.

how do you email only certain users, and then deny everyone else the choice to make a trade? such bs
donator
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Gerald Davis
April 18, 2013, 09:21:12 AM
I had placed an ACH withdraw request in yesterday prior to the suspending announcement.  It posted to the bank account this morning on time, like every time.  For those worried about Roman stealing funds this was a very very large ACH.  If he was looking to steal anyone's funds I would expect he would have started with this one.
legendary
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April 18, 2013, 09:01:47 AM
Bitfloor stole what, 20,000 BTC from customers last summer/fall. I still can't understand why anyone would trust them with a dime after that. This result is far from surprising.

Can you please provide some backup to the claim that Bitfloor stole the money themselves, as opposed to Bitfloor having the money stolen from them?
hero member
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WTF???
April 18, 2013, 08:45:20 AM
i didn't get this email... why not?

That's actually a good question.

It was said the e-mail would be sent out in small grouops so as not to completely disrupt the market @ bitfloor, but it seems like alot of people didn't get notified.

Did you have a USD balance? Maybe they only notified people with a USD balance, or maybe only if you have a BTC balance or something. Not sure, but I got the e-mail 8am.


Same for me, had a USD balance, no email.

I see their message on twitter about pleae withdraw by ACH.

https://twitter.com/bitfloor

What about those that didn't have their account verified? We have to verify it now? Or will they just ACH the funds out?
member
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April 18, 2013, 01:30:57 AM
After being up to my eyes in charts/graphs/forum thread and on the floor itself nearly 24/7, I decided to run to the store and fetch some vittles.... I was back in the forums and in this thread at 6:24.  

I know it's stressful, but I don't think there is anything to worry about.

When the money shows up in my bank account, I am just going to invest in something safe like a tax-free Roth IRA or the S&P market... -.-
newbie
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April 18, 2013, 01:18:32 AM
i never got an email either. I went to sleep everything was working fine. Woke up and saw that message. Garbage
member
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April 18, 2013, 01:14:13 AM
Just checked my email, still nothing(not that it's needed by now, but still...).
member
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April 18, 2013, 01:11:01 AM
People are withdrawing bitcoin fine but what about usd?

"""We are asking users to please wait for transactions and ACH verification to be processed before contacting support."""

https://twitter.com/bitfloor

If i was a thief i wouldnt give support after i took the money! So it looks like they were just fucked over by their bank and they are taking steps to get peoples funds back while they search for alternatives or consider just calling it quits. ( i could be wrong but..)


I know we are talking about peoples' money here, and it's easy to be skeptical, but maybe they are just swamped and under pressure and need some time to sort, prepare, try to survive, so they are asking people to be courteous and give em a chance before hitting them with unecessary emails.

The inconveniently timed email is a bit sketch, but maybe not.  It would be interesting to know who got the emails first and what they had in their accounts.

legendary
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April 18, 2013, 01:08:39 AM
i am also a new user and was recommended to use bitfloor as it was easy and simple. Maybe there needs to be a thread with the different exchanges/wallets with pros and cons and their history. I was also unaware that they were hacked before

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins

Most are clickable to view a wiki page with features and history.
newbie
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April 18, 2013, 12:50:24 AM
i am also a new user and was recommended to use bitfloor as it was easy and simple. Maybe there needs to be a thread with the different exchanges/wallets with pros and cons and their history. I was also unaware that they were hacked before
sr. member
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April 18, 2013, 12:15:01 AM
most of us (at least me) had no idea that they were hacked previously.

i am new, someone said they were a quick deposit, they were, and everything worked fine.
legendary
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April 17, 2013, 11:49:07 PM
People are withdrawing bitcoin fine but what about usd?

"""We are asking users to please wait for transactions and ACH verification to be processed before contacting support."""


https://twitter.com/bitfloor



If i was a thief i wouldnt give support after i took the money! So it looks like they were just fucked over by their bank and they are taking steps to get peoples funds back while they search for alternatives or consider just calling it quits. ( i could be wrong but..)

Im not speaking up for them ..  but if youre an idiot for using a service thats been hacked then everyone is an idiot. every MS user, every google user, every facebook user, every adobe user, and probably every bitcointalk user too..

Hell gox screams omg weve been ddos'd every other god dam day now! So add all their users too.. Im sure there are a few gox took my $ threads around here and they have 60-80 percent market share no?


anyway when you go to talk to bitfloor support tell them youre idiot number #445980789. When they enable direct deposit and transfer youre funds to youre bank account tell them thanks and regards, idiot number #445980789! Then tell them you will tell all the other idiots on bitcointalk...


See ya soon?
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