Topic: BitHashMiner 10TH/s Bitcoin Miner - page 9. (Read 17532 times)

Steve and I did not collaborate on this at all. We both acted on separate suspicions.
Well, what authority did I have to delete your page, block you from editing, and blacklist your website?
Delisting you was done on the same basis. We don't allow scams to roam freely on the wiki.

From the ToS on their website.  This reads to me, that they can take your money, then decide to cancel your order, at any time, at their sole discretion, and have no obligation to pay you anything back.

Go scam somewhere else you frauds.  Btw, if you read the rest of the terms (its tough with those damn snowflakes floating everywhere), they are in their for a good laugh.  The part about refusing delivery sure sounded pretty close to BlackArrow's current problems and updates to their ToS.

Check here https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Mining_hardware_comparison&action=history

(cur | prev) 15:45, 5 February 2015‎ Taras (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (19,856 bytes) (-293)‎ . . (- bhm)
(cur | prev) 01:55, 5 February 2015‎ Ezeminer (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (20,149 bytes) (+274)‎ . . (Added Antminer S5)
(cur | prev) 01:30, 5 February 2015‎ TheRealSteve (Talk | contribs)‎ m . . (19,875 bytes) (0)‎ . . (A then B then C. Though I just realized it should be between 'BitFury S.B.' and 'Bitmine.ch Avalon Clone 85GH', so that's where it's moved to.)


People will decide when TheRealSteve apply this  (A then B then C. Though I just realized it should be between 'BitFury S.B.' and 'Bitmine.ch Avalon Clone 85GH', so that's where it's moved to.),  settings then why Taras remove me from list.

Because you can check TheRealSteve made many attempts for removing me from list but after TheRealSteve think he need another person to remove it and other person is Taras.


But still Question:
Question is what is authority Taras and TheRealSteve to remove any Miners from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

I'm a little dumber than I was before reading this.

tl;dr version: "Rather than provide proof of our hardware designs or any substantial information at all, please allow me to go for ad hominem attacks."

I'll be happy to let the audience decide

Actually, the link you should go for is the editing history: https://en.bitcoin.it/w/index.php?title=Mining_hardware_comparison&action=history

You'll find that Taras only made the final edit.  I was the one who initially commented out (note: not even removed) your listing simply because all signs point to your hardware not existing.  Later I decided to leave it in, believing that the interwiki link to BitHashMiner would land people on a page pointing visitors to this forum thread anyway.  I did place it further down the list as the list is in alphabetical order (the table sort module is disabled or not implemented), after which you repeatedly put it back at the top until I pointed out exactly where to find the BitHashMiner entry.


It's a wiki - anybody can add (let me get back to that in 5... 4...) or remove content from it.  Basically, I have the same level of authority as you do, but certainly less than moderators / admins.

Honestly, I wouldn't know - I only looked at your entry due to this forum thread.  I'd be happy to remove the EMIC or Achilles Labs or whatever other shady entry, but only after I review them.  People more familiar with those outfits - e.g. Luke-Jr who repeatedly tried to remove the Achilles Labs entry before - are certainly welcome to do so as well.

On the up side, if EMIC is truly the only one you could single out there, then that list really isn't doing too bad at all.

3... 2... 1... because anybody can edit it and add any entry pointing to whatever they want.  The warning up there is thus a general reminder to visitors of the wiki that they should be wary of new entries.


Sorry, that's not how I believe being a good community member works.  We shouldn't just throw people into the pit and let them fend for themselves.  If we did, then that page would be a lot longer, and the number of scam companies would certainly outnumber the ones that are legitimate.

I only skimmed the thread again, but could you point out where anybody said that if you gave them money they would say your company, or any other company, would be described as 'good'?

I do see several suggestions of sending hardware to a trusted member of the forum (and no, I'm not one of those trusted members, do a search to find out who are. It's a very short list.), and the only thing I specifically said about that was:

Taras didn't even enter this thread until his post to point out that he locked your wiki account.

That's a potential fallacy of self-fulfilling prophecy - I can assure you that if I wanted to do so, I would have 1. made a post in the Scam Accusations section and 2. reported this thread to the moderators.  I have done none of these things so far, and I'm not inclined to do so in the future either as this thread is an excellent reminder to others to be vigilant even to this day.

You're welcome

Question is what is authority Taras and TheRealSteve to remove any Miners from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison

Are you...Are you even serious BitHashMiner?  Why are you continuing to even try?  You have obviously been caught red handed (almost immediately might I add), and yet, you still are defaming legendary and up forum members?  Remove your wesbite, copy and paste it onto a new site, make a new account and try again.  Geez.

Btw, if you really were shipping in April as your website says, you would have sample chips, as well as, boards and a plethora of other stuff that you could post pictures of proving you were legit.  Now get lost.

noddy2000 have picked authentic point, Really Genius Person.

I will be framing this one.

True that, didn't think there. Edited!

Meanwhile, can someone on reddit go there and warn them about this shit bag company being g butterfly labs crew! Painting there old stock (which no one brought) white and selling under a different name. New low lol.

Taras and TheRealSteve is #1 Spammers + Scammer, I will proof it and Audience will decide it,

1. Taras and TheRealSteve tried many attempts together for removing BitHashMiner from https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison , Taras and TheRealSteve don't want BithashMiner show there, Now is question what they have authority to remove BitHashMiner, Is all Miners that all listed on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison  are no one scam if they are all legitimate then why there showing this:

Note that products which have not shipped, especially by new vendors, may be scams! Be sure to research any of these intensely before giving them any money.

Second thing is that on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison Another Miner company showing EMIC PowerModule you can check here what are saying bitcointalk community about it https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/announcment-brand-new-miner-emic-powermodule-565-ths-903855 , They are saying it totally scam then why Taras, TheRealSteve not doing what they are doing with BitHashMiner, EMIC PowerModule still showing on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison and never they tried to remove it But Question is what is Authority have to Taras and TheRealSteve, In reality they have no Authority and on https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison showing legitimate and scam and people will self decide who are scam or who are legitimate , Taras, TheRealSteve not will decide what they are doing spammy things on wiki.

In fact Taras and TheRealSteve is big gang mafia who don't want anyone work with freedom but if any company will give them money they they will say it is good company 1 example already showing in this post, I Guarantee that Taras and TheRealSteve also will try to remove me from this Forum

Thank you.

Thanks - I think the best part was where they edited my User page
Re edit warring (in which I partook): I tried to accommodate their complaints while keeping the core message the same - but I guess it's the core message they took issue with.  Oh well.

Why on earth would you quote the op?

Just blocked OP from the wiki. Ridiculous edit warring... I almost want to keep the page, this is the lamest scam I have ever seen

Hi sonny, hi josh, hi Maude!

Butterfly lab crew haha. Someone should let the on going FTC investigation know about this one haha. Talk about desperate!

you were willing to scout out that site?
well done on finding some rotten fish in there, i couldn't handle the snowflakes..

we are not going to put faith in your lack of product, we cannot prove that you are not a scam with the fact you have NOTHING

..and what is this? we scamming ourselves because we have nothing to say you have nothing? we are not dividing by zero here KTHXBI.

shitty site is shitty, only just made and no updates since going public; no hardware info; only renders of device; no info on who is making it;

and saying that "Every time when Innovation comes then suddenly they say it is scam" yep, we did that with spondoolie for the first few seconds, till we saw new hardware, we did that with Rockxie, till we saw new hardware, bitmain, drilbert, hasha, etc

it is YOU that has to show us something! not us proving to you that you dont

no hdmi, no care

I wonder if they're affiliated with https://www.ehsminer.com/about/.

Both have the following in their ToS: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=%22is+entitled+to+make+deductions+due+to+any+deficiencies%22

ehsminer.com is based in Paris where Nasser of BFL lives.

Check this out: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7979261

Only a hunch.

GOD DAMN THATS SEXY

srsly make that miner i would buy it

(im referring to the 3d miner a user posted, not op