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Topic: bitHopper: Python Pool Hopper Proxy - page 105. (Read 355689 times)

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August 02, 2011, 11:15:31 AM
How to completely disable the status page?
Um I can add an option I guess. Or just delete all of the stuff in bitSite's getchild besides return self.

I just finished reworking LP to poll all servers. I'm not sure if I should release it yet however as well all the testing I have done is with sending works and I'm waiting to see how it works when it receives an LP response.

Then its slicing time as that appears to be really needed. And its the oldest issue.
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August 02, 2011, 10:10:33 AM
I think Pay Per Last N Share pools could be worth hopping if you hop in when >250% shares are done (or another amount, calculated on statistics).

A sort of inversed hopping.
The chance is big that after >250 shares (or another amount, should be calculated on statistics) the block will be found and because you are paid PPLNS you get full reward for it.

Any thoughts?

250% is too early, biggest ever block was 16M shares - 846%, so you should hop @ 430% * difficulty and you will always end in 2nd half of any round, but that long blocks are rare, so maybe 300-350% is good target

organofcorti, PPLNS pool should not be backup pool alone, change your setup for simulation - at least 3 pools - 1 prop, 1 pps and 1 pplns
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August 02, 2011, 10:05:07 AM
How do I completely disable the status page and the server at port 8337?
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August 02, 2011, 09:39:18 AM
You have to manually input earnings to see any efficiency ratings.
Do you enter a number every time you take money out of the pool (payout to your wallet) (is it additive)?, or do you update the BTC value occasionally with your pool BTC balance?

And it's only good for the shares that bitHopper "knows" about, right? There's no way to enter previous shares into the database.
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August 02, 2011, 09:14:46 AM
I was about to disable bitclockers and then their efficiency jumped from 78% to 228.5%.  Can't complain about that.

I've never seen any number besides 0.00 in my efficiency fields - of course, I restart the hopper at least once a day because of user.cfg changes, git pulls, etc.

You have to manually input earnings to see any efficiency ratings.
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August 02, 2011, 08:03:06 AM
If anyone pulled from the github and are gettings error 24, this is what it needs to be changed to:
api_key:
Round Shares:([ 0-9]+)


Tried pushing but of course it doesn't work.

What pool is this?
BTCPool24
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August 02, 2011, 07:28:17 AM
I was about to disable bitclockers and then their efficiency jumped from 78% to 228.5%.  Can't complain about that.

I've never seen any number besides 0.00 in my efficiency fields - of course, I restart the hopper at least once a day because of user.cfg changes, git pulls, etc.
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Poor impulse control.
August 02, 2011, 07:14:59 AM
I think Pay Per Last N Share pools could be worth hopping if you hop in when >250% shares are done (or another amount, calculated on statistics).

A sort of inversed hopping.
The chance is big that after >250 shares (or another amount, should be calculated on statistics) the block will be found and because you are paid PPLNS you get full reward for it.

Any thoughts?

Nope. Did a monte carlo on that (I'll post the results on hoppersden), PPLNS never pays above 1.0 and never pays 1.0 unless you're there the whole round. That isn't to say there aren't strategies though.



What if you were to do what we are doing to slush?  Like as soon as they hit difficulty number of shares we hop on for 10% and then hop off.  Most rounds we get nothing but some rounds we get full payment . . .


That's next on my list. These sims are computationally expensive though and I don't know how to get OpenGL working for them so a very accurate sim with lots of datapoints can take between 12 and 72 hours on my little old laptop.
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August 02, 2011, 07:02:49 AM
I think Pay Per Last N Share pools could be worth hopping if you hop in when >250% shares are done (or another amount, calculated on statistics).

A sort of inversed hopping.
The chance is big that after >250 shares (or another amount, should be calculated on statistics) the block will be found and because you are paid PPLNS you get full reward for it.

Any thoughts?

Nope. Did a monte carlo on that (I'll post the results on hoppersden), PPLNS never pays above 1.0 and never pays 1.0 unless you're there the whole round. That isn't to say there aren't strategies though.



What if you were to do what we are doing to slush?  Like as soon as they hit difficulty number of shares we hop on for 10% and then hop off.  Most rounds we get nothing but some rounds we get full payment . . .
donator
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Poor impulse control.
August 02, 2011, 05:32:50 AM
I think Pay Per Last N Share pools could be worth hopping if you hop in when >250% shares are done (or another amount, calculated on statistics).

A sort of inversed hopping.
The chance is big that after >250 shares (or another amount, should be calculated on statistics) the block will be found and because you are paid PPLNS you get full reward for it.

Any thoughts?

Nope. Did a monte carlo on that (I'll post the results on hoppersden), PPLNS never pays above 1.0 and never pays 1.0 unless you're there the whole round. That isn't to say there aren't strategies though.

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August 02, 2011, 05:32:25 AM
why is btcworld set to info? what does that even mean? should I try enabling it?

I was just about to ask the same question Smiley  What's the purpose of the 'info' option?
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August 02, 2011, 05:27:53 AM
you could try sukrims binary


2.7.2 Version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13293016/bitHopper/bitHopper-2011-08-01_05-53-50-d7df0f8ebf65d01734ec43129f711e042f97a953.7z


not sure what went wrong with your install

That seems to be working, thanks Smiley   Do I just need to update pool.cfg and user.cfg when a new git is released for c00w's?
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moOo
August 02, 2011, 04:06:05 AM
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The chance is big that after >250 shares

nah i think that is a gamblers fallacy. The chance remains the same no matter what share you are on.


think of flipping coins. someone just got 10 heads in a row, Most people would bet on tails next, but the next  flip is still 50/50 even though he got ten heads already.


your looking at the ten heads or >250% and saying he is due for a tails, he could just as easily flip a heads again next, they could just as easily not find a block in another 43%. Got to look at each share as having the same probability, yeah they may have lost a lot of flips but they arent "due" for a win
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August 02, 2011, 04:01:16 AM
I think Pay Per Last N Share pools could be worth hopping if you hop in when >250% shares are done (or another amount, calculated on statistics).

A sort of inversed hopping.
The chance is big that after >250 shares (or another amount, should be calculated on statistics) the block will be found and because you are paid PPLNS you get full reward for it.

Any thoughts?
sr. member
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moOo
August 02, 2011, 03:24:31 AM
you could try sukrims binary


2.7.2 Version: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/13293016/bitHopper/bitHopper-2011-08-01_05-53-50-d7df0f8ebf65d01734ec43129f711e042f97a953.7z


not sure what went wrong with your install
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August 02, 2011, 03:17:30 AM
Okay windows install blitz
1. https://github.com/c00w/bitHopper/zipball/master
[unzip to C:\bitHopper view README in WordPad]
2. http://www.python.org/ftp/python/2.7.2/python-2.7.2.msi
3. http://pypi.python.org/packages/2.7/T/Twisted/Twisted-11.0.0.winxp32-py2.7.msi
4. http://pypi.python.org/packages/2.7/s/setuptools/setuptools-0.6c11.win32-py2.7.exe (for .egg support)
5. http://pypi.python.org/packages/2.7/z/zope.interface/zope.interface-3.6.4-py2.7-win32.egg
6. http://launchpad.net/pyopenssl/main/0.11/+download/pyOpenSSL-0.11-py2.7-win32.egg

.egg(s) are installed using C:\Python27\Scripts\easy_install.exe
You will have to use  command console aka cmd.exe.

Move pool.cfg.default to pool.cfg and modify it to use your accounts
Run C:\bitHopper\bitHopper.py maybe create shortcut
Direct your miner to localhost:8337 using some username and password.
ie. in MINER.BAT "start /affinity 1 /D"C:\Users\David\Downloads\poclbm_py2exe_20110709" /MIN poclbm.exe assman:password@localhost:8337 -d 0 -v -w 128"
Look at stats and control pool in web browser at localhost:8337/stats

That should take you 30 seconds took me an hour to figure out.

Have not been able to locate bitHopper documentation and arguments not obvious where to look.

Can't get bloody Openssl installed (win7 64bit).  Just gives me the error:

error: Setup script exited with error: Only found improper OpenSSL directories:
['C:\\']
legendary
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August 02, 2011, 03:16:13 AM
i'll jump to bloodys in a bit.
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moOo
August 02, 2011, 03:11:47 AM
their forum makes it sound like they arent ready to screw hoppers yet.

they also seem to be having other problems.

they rebooted earlier cause "the programmer needed them too"

all the stats are screwy.. no bitcoin price either.. site is slow

i think it is just new and they broke something..

still I will wait until things get a bit more stable


was there any interest in putting in flowers slicing...seems like it would help with these smaller slow pools

and some of yall come to bloodys or digbitcoin so i can get to 43%


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August 02, 2011, 03:02:16 AM
that's only the estimated reward, not the actual reward
estimation algorithms have nothing to do with the actual pay

I'm mining 24/7 there for my 0.05 BTC errr day

Well the problem is they don't show the total shares that you have submitted so I can't be sure that maybe their share count got screwed up. Like you said it's probably nothing to serious, probably just the estimation algorithm that is broken.

Or maybe they are trying the new payout method: STHPFT (Screw The Hoppers, Pay Full Timers) wherein they give bonuses to 24/7 miners and debit hoppers to pay for it. Well, they'll have to send me to BTC collections, I guess.
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August 02, 2011, 02:50:22 AM
that's only the estimated reward, not the actual reward
estimation algorithms have nothing to do with the actual pay

I'm mining 24/7 there for my 0.05 BTC errr day

Well the problem is they don't show the total shares that you have submitted so I can't be sure that maybe their share count got screwed up. Like you said it's probably nothing to serious, probably just the estimation algorithm that is broken.
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