Topic: Bitmain give false? (Read 2684 times)

Import duty & taxes when importing into Italy
Overview
Import duty and taxes are due when importing goods into Italy from outside of the EU whether by a private individual or a commercial entity. The import duty and taxes payable are calculated on the CIF value, i.e. the sum of the value of the imported goods and the cost of shipping and insurance.  
Duty Rates
The duty rates applied to imports into Italy typically range between 0% (for example books) and 17% (for example Wellington Boots).  Some products, such as Laptops, Mobile Phones, Digital cameras and Video Game consoles, are duty free. Certain goods may be subject to additional duties depending on the country of manufacture, for example Bicycles made in China carry an additional (anti dumping) duty of 48.5%.
VAT Rates
The standard VAT rate for importing items into Italy is 22%, with a few exceptions attracting VAT at reduced rates of 10% or 4%. VAT is calculated on the value of the goods, plus the international shipping costs and insurance, plus any import duty due.
Minimum thresholds
For imports into Italy, there are minimum thresholds below which duty and VAT are waived.
Duty is not charged if:
the FOB value, i.e. the value of the goods excluding shipping and insurance cost, does not exceed €150
 
VAT is not charged if:
 
the FOB value, i.e. the value of the goods excluding shipping and insurance cost, does not exceed €22
 
Other taxes and customs fees
Excise duty is payable on for example tobacco and alcohol.
Additional customs fees can be charged to cover the expense of performing any required examinations, verification and or testing of the imported goods.

Local Customs office and contacts
More information on import declaration procedures and import restrictions you can find at the Italian Customs website.

I took it by this post



As well I never paid any duty for computer PSU.

for example here http://www.dutycalculator.com/hs-lookup/39832/hs-tariff-code-for-bitcoin-mining/
8471.50.0090

I do not know what code you talk, I live in Italy,
How do you not pay customs duty


Where do I get the code?


I think these are the codes that you speak

205
405
200
201
605
999

Duty for miners in EU??
I never paid custom duty, only VAT (aprox. 80 shipments within last 3 years).
What customs tariff code are you using?

we hope you're right, at this price you can stay well well

If you paid  3696.74USD with bank transfer it is, after all, easy.

Add 22% VAT = 813,28 USD
Then add  duty   3.7% = 136,77USD
+
administrative rights : 12,00 euro -------------->  =  $ 13,1136
stamp : 2,00 euro ---------------->  = $  2,1856

Total not less than 965,34 USD

In estonia I pay for this order only 739,35 USD   difference in price 226USD

someone can give me some explanation? how much do I pay taxes?

thats weird, when i saw the customs paper the value bitmain had written down was almost less than half of what i paid for the s7...

This is the order of 3X S7
in your opinion when should I pay now?
I have to make a loan to clear the goods?

You're both right.

EU you declare value and shipping.  In other countries, Canada for example, you only declare the value.

I wait for a paper invoice sent by FedEx, so you can see

Q: Bitmain give false?

A: They usually dont do that.

Q: so you're telling me that everything is fine right?

A: Yes, it looks right to me. Do the math:

140 x 3 = 420
420 + 48 for shipping = 468
 +22% tax in Italy = 458*1.22 = 570 USD *0.94 = 533 Euro

so you're telling me that everything is fine right?

No, I don't think they get a 17% tax refund. I know they do. I know how chinese export works and I already heard directly from two bitmain employees about this.
That's why miners in chinese site are ~15% more expensive than global.

In estonia is the e‑Tax Board/ e‑Customs environment  and and each company and private person can submit their Custom declaration by himself.
http://www.emta.ee/?lang=en

So I pay from  miners and PSU-s only 20% VAT and pay nothing  a courier company.

If you do not want to declare themselves, then you can use courier companies for Custom declaration. UPS and DHL take about 20 eur for that.

From the buying-S5 +  miners until the end of the year I paid over 13 000 euro VAT. But I have saved hundreds of euros completing the declaration itself.

Come to Estonian e-resident and maybe pay less  
https://e-estonia.com/e-residents/about/

This!

I was confused about this in the beginning as well, but Bitmain haven't done anything wrong here.

But 128.97 x3 +22% import taxes are  (128.97*3*1.22)= 472.03 so there are just 60 (or 50 + 22% taxes) bucks left, which was possibly charged by FedEx for the customs service at the italian border. So actually it looks ok to me.

I know you have been ripped off by a forum member (thats a pity).

edit:

with 467.99 USD +22% taxes it would be 570.95 -> even more. USD/EUR is around 0.95, so thats 542 EUR.

Stop ordering from them, this is not your first "omg bitmain scammers ripoff omg omg" thread.

enough for me to see that stated in the invoice 533.94