Maybe they wrote down that price because BTC had a higher value that day. They go off the current value of BTC instead of the past value when you paid.
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for my English I help with google translator, I am sorry,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
Do you have the proforma invoice from Bitmain that Fedex used for the calculations?
When there is no separate amount declared for Shipping, Fedex and DHL (probably UPS too) will add an arbitrary shipping charge amount to the invoice before they calculate VAT.
It's also possible that at the time Bitmain exported the items, the value increased because BTC exchange rate changed.
You paid a BTC value, not a US$ value, so it's possible that they edited the US$ value at the time of shipping.
I also saw somewhere that Bitmain is getting money back from Chinese governement based on the exported value.
If it's true and proven, overvaluating exported items (chosing the best exchange rate between sale time and shipping time) may be a way to make more income.
for my English I help with google translator, I am sorry,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I get 492.75 if I order today.
so that is about 40 usd wrong. they should give you a $50 or 75$ coupon.
but they are not a thief .
Also, shipping costs are not supposed to be included in the value of the item. You can ship a box full of rocks that is going to be worth 1cent, shipping 100$, the value to be declared is 1cent.
Still i do not understand either way, how Bitmain come up with their reported value.
USA law varies State to State. In New Jersey If I sold the 3 psu's and shipped them and my out of pocket was the 492 I would have to collect sales tax and give it to the state. sales tax is 7% so I would charge 7% of 492 = 34.30 usd so the buyer would owe 492 + 34.30 or 536.30
This would be for a sale completely inside NJ.
Bitmain is doing a China to Italy sale.. I have no idea how they are tasked to report it. But 492 would not be far off in some places.
So is 533 really far off Based on Chinese and Italian laws and treaties along with European vat. I do not know.
You need someone that knows all the laws involved since I know some places take the shipping into account for tax purposes.
Right, and i was basing my statement on my personal experience when dealing with import to Québec from China, as i've had to complain a few times as they messed up the amount. I did not have to pay import tax for services, but i've had varying experience with this depending on which shipping company i dealt with. (FedEx being by far the worse)
for my English I help with google translator, I am sorry,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I get 492.75 if I order today.
so that is about 40 usd wrong. they should give you a $50 or 75$ coupon.
but they are not a thief .
Also, shipping costs are not supposed to be included in the value of the item. You can ship a box full of rocks that is going to be worth 1cent, shipping 100$, the value to be declared is 1cent.
Still i do not understand either way, how Bitmain come up with their reported value.
USA law varies State to State. In New Jersey If I sold the 3 psu's and shipped them and my out of pocket was the 492 I would have to collect sales tax and give it to the state. sales tax is 7% so I would charge 7% of 492 = 34.30 usd so the buyer would owe 492 + 34.30 or 536.30
This would be for a sale completely inside NJ.
Bitmain is doing a China to Italy sale.. I have no idea how they are tasked to report it. But 492 would not be far off in some places.
So is 533 really far off Based on Chinese and Italian laws and treaties along with European vat. I do not know.
You need someone that knows all the laws involved since I know some places take the shipping into account for tax purposes.
for my English I help with google translator, I am sorry,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I get 492.75 if I order today.
so that is about 40 usd wrong. they should give you a $50 or 75$ coupon.
but they are not a thief .
I would agree take a step back and breath. Then go ask bitmain what hapened, I don't know if they can explain it or how it happened. It would be interesting to see how they got the number.
But you will have much better luck emailing and asking them. It might sound stupid but I would start off nice not calling them thief or let emotion take over. I think you will have better results if you talk to them and do it nicely. Again it might not matter but in all my time I have had better luck asking companies nicely if something was wrong then getting emotional.
Price of import = sale price of items (or fair value) + shipping ACTUAL cost. The amount you were charged for shipping was possibly less than it actually cost to ship, meaning the declared value comes out higher. + exchange variations.
for my English I help with google translator, I am sorry,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I get 492.75 if I order today.
so that is about 40 usd wrong. they should give you a $50 or 75$ coupon.
but they are not a thief .
Also, shipping costs are not supposed to be included in the value of the item. You can ship a box full of rocks that is going to be worth 1cent, shipping 100$, the value to be declared is 1cent.
Still i do not understand either way, how Bitmain come up with their reported value.
for my English I help with google translator, I am sorry,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I get 492.75 if I order today.
so that is about 40 usd wrong. they should give you a $50 or 75$ coupon.
but they are not a thief .
for my English I help with google translator, I am sorry,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
excuse, if I paid $ 430 including shipping,
because he said 533.94?
you know that the more the price is high the more you pay customs?
but you're in love with bitmain all here?
always defend him? even with the evidence?
I like you steal
because he said 533.94?
you know that the more the price is high the more you pay customs?
but you're in love with bitmain all here?
always defend him? even with the evidence?
I like you steal
You need to work on your English, i believe you are completely misunderstanding here and also using the wrong words.
Steal mean taking someone else's property. Which means by definition that Bitmain would need to gain the value of those taxes by lying about the value. They are not actually getting that amount, therefore its not theft.
However i am agreeing with you that their practices, bookkeeping and communication is horrible.
What more do you want?
excuse, if I paid $ 430 including shipping,
because he said 533.94?
you know that the more the price is high the more you pay customs?
but you're in love with bitmain all here?
always defend him? even with the evidence?
I like you steal
because he said 533.94?
you know that the more the price is high the more you pay customs?
but you're in love with bitmain all here?
always defend him? even with the evidence?
I like you steal
Well, they don't steal anything, they don't get anything more from this, so yeah they often mess up the value on things, i'm not sure why, but its a pain to deal with the rectifying the price declared.
Well guys, I give you confirmation that bitmain and a thief,
3 PSU X = 1.0129 BTC = $ 431.9768, including shipping
value declared by bitmain 533.94
You want proof?It is written in Italian, but you can translate
3 PSU X = 1.0129 BTC = $ 431.9768, including shipping
value declared by bitmain 533.94
You want proof?It is written in Italian, but you can translate
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