Before you do that, please do some due diligence first.
Have a look at pos 12 Elementi del valore: 128.97 -> this is the value form Bitmain.
Everything else is filled out by FedEx. It has to, because they have to charge taxes to their service as well. It might be possible, that bitmain doesnt show off with the actual price for shipping.
Topic: Bitmain give false? - page 2. (Read 2606 times)
I update you who have sent me an apology for saying 2 times the shipment, that will not happen again.
but repayment is not talked about.
This is absurd
Hi,
Sorry for the trouble.
I double confirmed with shipping team and they confirm it's due to our financial department's request. but considering on our customers' side, I argue with them and convince them to follow the real shipping cost in orders in future. No worries.
It won't happen again, sorry for the inconvenience
but repayment is not talked about.
This is absurd
Hi,
Sorry for the trouble.
I double confirmed with shipping team and they confirm it's due to our financial department's request. but considering on our customers' side, I argue with them and convince them to follow the real shipping cost in orders in future. No worries.
It won't happen again, sorry for the inconvenience
if you want we can open a poll, and vote against their policies and send them a copy
I belive this is a good ideea, we whould start a pool and make a complaint against BITMAIN's bad behavior
certain that it has fancy, you ask him to bitmain to make you pay less, and instead says more, and still here on the forum I see people who defend it,
Perhaps some of these people like to pay a lot more than they cost, I certainly do not want to rub me.
and I never liked the people without balls,.
in Sicily these people are put aside, because they bring nothing but trouble
Perhaps some of these people like to pay a lot more than they cost, I certainly do not want to rub me.
and I never liked the people without balls,.
in Sicily these people are put aside, because they bring nothing but trouble
if you want we can open a poll, and vote against their policies and send them a copy
I had same problem each and every time with BITMAIN
I ordered many S7 via DHL, each time they declared 100 $ more per unit on invoice !
I didn't want to try and convince my customs of the real value of units because that would mean they would have held my package in customs additional days for invetigations ( meaning I wouldn't be able to mine with them, all because of this lying company)
At first I didn't understand why they always declare more, now I understand ,they get money from their government for exporting.
This company is based on lies and decieving
I don't know why this company is such high rated when they only care about their profits even if that means lying and deciving customs/clients etc.
We should all unite and do something about this
I ordered many S7 via DHL, each time they declared 100 $ more per unit on invoice !
I didn't want to try and convince my customs of the real value of units because that would mean they would have held my package in customs additional days for invetigations ( meaning I wouldn't be able to mine with them, all because of this lying company)
At first I didn't understand why they always declare more, now I understand ,they get money from their government for exporting.
This company is based on lies and decieving
I don't know why this company is such high rated when they only care about their profits even if that means lying and deciving customs/clients etc.
We should all unite and do something about this
APW3-12-1600-B2 1600W 140 USD 2.3 kg x 3 420 USD
( 0.995 BTC )
0 USD
(0 BTC) No Coupon 420 USD
( 0.995 BTC )
Shipping Cost 0.114 BTC
( 47.99 USD )
Total 1.109 BTC
( 467.99 USD
( 0.995 BTC )
0 USD
(0 BTC) No Coupon 420 USD
( 0.995 BTC )
Shipping Cost 0.114 BTC
( 47.99 USD )
Total 1.109 BTC
( 467.99 USD
excuse, if I paid $ 430 including shipping,
because he said 533.94?
you know that the more the price is high the more you pay customs?
but you're in love with bitmain all here?
always defend him? even with the evidence?
I like you steal
because he said 533.94?
you know that the more the price is high the more you pay customs?
but you're in love with bitmain all here?
always defend him? even with the evidence?
I like you steal
It is simply not possible., that you paid $ 430 including shipping.
PSU is with fixed price 140 USD
Shipping is fixed price in USD.
3x 140=420USD for 3 PSU
FEDEX shipping costs for 6,9 kg from China to Italy can not be only 10USD
3 x psu = 1.0129 btc including shipping
1.0129 = 425 $
this is the price I paid to bitmain including shipping.
declared value of $ 533.94 bitmain
Log in and try again.
3x PSU=420USD
shipping costs with FEDEX to estonia is 91 USD
excuse, if I paid $ 430 including shipping,
because he said 533.94?
you know that the more the price is high the more you pay customs?
but you're in love with bitmain all here?
always defend him? even with the evidence?
I like you steal
because he said 533.94?
you know that the more the price is high the more you pay customs?
but you're in love with bitmain all here?
always defend him? even with the evidence?
I like you steal
It is simply not possible., that you paid $ 430 including shipping.
PSU is with fixed price 140 USD
Shipping is fixed price in USD.
3x 140=420USD for 3 PSU
FEDEX shipping costs for 6,9 kg from China to Italy can not be only 10USD
3 x psu = 1.0129 btc including shipping
1.0129 = 425 $
this is the price I paid to bitmain including shipping.
declared value of $ 533.94 bitmain
for my English I help with google translator, I am sorry,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I'm pissed off because I do not understand why he said more than they cost,
I get 492.75 if I order today.
so that is about 40 usd wrong. they should give you a $50 or 75$ coupon.
but they are not a thief .
Also, shipping costs are not supposed to be included in the value of the item. You can ship a box full of rocks that is going to be worth 1cent, shipping 100$, the value to be declared is 1cent.
Still i do not understand either way, how Bitmain come up with their reported value.
USA law varies State to State. In New Jersey If I sold the 3 psu's and shipped them and my out of pocket was the 492 I would have to collect sales tax and give it to the state. sales tax is 7% so I would charge 7% of 492 = 34.30 usd so the buyer would owe 492 + 34.30 or 536.30
This would be for a sale completely inside NJ.
Bitmain is doing a China to Italy sale.. I have no idea how they are tasked to report it. But 492 would not be far off in some places.
So is 533 really far off Based on Chinese and Italian laws and treaties along with European vat. I do not know.
You need someone that knows all the laws involved since I know some places take the shipping into account for tax purposes.
price 3 X psu = 420 $ + 50 $ shipping = 470$
because the declared value by bitmain and 533.94?
italia iva : 22% : 143,31 euro --------> = $ 156,6091
duty : 21,86 euro --------------> = $ 23,8886
administrative rights : 12,00 euro --------------> = $ 13,1136
stamp : 2,00 euro ----------------> = $ 2,1856
total price : 179,17 euro --------------> = $ 195,7969
they just don't care!!! simple as that!
before they were a bit more flexible with the VAT, now they prefer to just make fun of clients!
before they were a bit more flexible with the VAT, now they prefer to just make fun of clients!
What do you mean flexible on VAT? Are you talking like lower price listed or different category?
Or I could be reading wrong into it. Just was not sure what you meant on it.
Price of import = sale price of items (or fair value) + shipping ACTUAL cost. The amount you were charged for shipping was possibly less than it actually cost to ship, meaning the declared value comes out higher. + exchange variations.
That's a lie. You are to be charged on the value you PAID for. You cannot be taxed anywhere in the world for something you didn't pay, regardless of the company eating the shipping price or not. And Bitmain doesn't decrease the actual shipping price. If anything they increase it.Well, they don't steal anything, they don't get anything more from this, so yeah they often mess up the value on things, i'm not sure why, but its a pain to deal with the rectifying the price declared.
They get 17% from chinese government out of everything they export, or what they say they do.I,m pretty sure taxes work the other way around. The more money they get from people, the more tax they need to pay, which would translate into being a income loss if you declare higher gain than you did gain and better gain if you declare same or less than what you gained.
Maybe China works differently than what i can imagine.
Price of import = sale price of items (or fair value) + shipping ACTUAL cost. The amount you were charged for shipping was possibly less than it actually cost to ship, meaning the declared value comes out higher. + exchange variations.
That's a lie. You are to be charged on the value you PAID for. You cannot be taxed anywhere in the world for something you didn't pay, regardless of the company eating the shipping price or not.Of course you do, just as I have to pay import duties on both a review unit's value and shipping cost, even though I paid for neither.
they just don't care!!! simple as that!
before they were a bit more flexible with the VAT, now they prefer to just make fun of clients!
before they were a bit more flexible with the VAT, now they prefer to just make fun of clients!
I had last year the same problem (and some of my friends too). I even paid by bank transfer in USD. And higher value on invoice is in EU really problem because high VAT (more than 20%).
I NEVER had such problem with other supplier.
It seems that Bitmain has some problems with filling papers for customs office...
I NEVER had such problem with other supplier.
It seems that Bitmain has some problems with filling papers for customs office...
he used FedEx bad idea they do tend to charge after the fact then lie to you, i had it happen a few times i avoid FedEx as much as i can. they may be the cheapest shipper Bitmain offers but are they really . when all is said and done.when I order from Bitmain now i just pay the extra in shipping less pain and no hidden bills in the mail . it may have been the shipper and Bitmain both but I wouldn't call it stealing yet , find out what happen first .
They get 17% from chinese government out of everything they export, or what they say they do.
If this is true, everyone who was charged a higher rate by customs should contact their carrier and dispute the customs charges. Provide the invoice given to you by Bitmain at the time of purchase that shows the dollar value you paid.
DHL is capable of doing this, but I'm not sure of the others.
They can at least i know UPS can, i don't trust FEDEX they did steal from me. Got a feeling it's more the shipper , Bitmain does come thu and doesn't steal they make big mistakes at times but make good .
I did that one time with FedEx and was told I would not be charged they did any way and on top of that told me custom charged them what the bill said but it wasn't, it even said what the other addon charge was on the bill after i pointed that out, i was told no charge then they charged me any way to my CC, i had on file with them, i don't file my cc info with them any more, only use them if i have to .
@ marvykkio
Just be care full what shipper you use and pay that little extra no pain and supersizes, later on. That Might cost more.
They get 17% from chinese government out of everything they export, or what they say they do.
DHL is capable of doing this, but I'm not sure of the others.
They can at least i know UPS can, i don't trust FEDEX they did steal from me. Got a feeling it's more the shipper , Bitmain does come thu and doesn't steal they make big mistakes at times but make good .
I did that one time with FedEx and was told I would not be charged they did any way and on top of that told me custom charged them what the bill said but it wasn't, it even said what the other addon charge was on the bill after i pointed that out, i was told no charge then they charged me any way to my CC, i had on file with them, i don't file my cc info with them any more, only use them if i have to .
@ marvykkio
Just be care full what shipper you use and pay that little extra no pain and supersizes, later on. That Might cost more.
They get 17% from chinese government out of everything they export, or what they say they do.
DHL is capable of doing this, but I'm not sure of the others.
Price of import = sale price of items (or fair value) + shipping ACTUAL cost. The amount you were charged for shipping was possibly less than it actually cost to ship, meaning the declared value comes out higher. + exchange variations.
That's a lie. You are to be charged on the value you PAID for. You cannot be taxed anywhere in the world for something you didn't pay, regardless of the company eating the shipping price or not. And Bitmain doesn't decrease the actual shipping price. If anything they increase it.Well, they don't steal anything, they don't get anything more from this, so yeah they often mess up the value on things, i'm not sure why, but its a pain to deal with the rectifying the price declared.
They get 17% from chinese government out of everything they export, or what they say they do. I paid $ 430 including shipping
It is simply not possible., that you paid $ 430 including shipping.
And even if he was, the courier declares the actual / tariff shipping charge and not the $10 he was actually charged.
excuse, if I paid $ 430 including shipping,
because he said 533.94?
you know that the more the price is high the more you pay customs?
but you're in love with bitmain all here?
always defend him? even with the evidence?
I like you steal
because he said 533.94?
you know that the more the price is high the more you pay customs?
but you're in love with bitmain all here?
always defend him? even with the evidence?
I like you steal
It is simply not possible., that you paid $ 430 including shipping.
PSU is with fixed price 140 USD
Shipping is fixed price in USD.
3x 140=420USD for 3 PSU
FEDEX shipping costs for 6,9 kg from China to Italy can not be only 10USD
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