Hey, what is this IMPORTER number that bitmain asks if you choose FEDEX.
If it is Social security number, then no way I would provide that to a foreign site (that lost credentials before due to the hack).
Topic: Bitmain Introduces the S17+ and T17+ - page 6. (Read 3389 times)
Thank you VERY MUCH !!!! that gives me some much needed reassurance.
i saw the 25% pop up for taxes, ill try to do a review with stats and picts.
so coinbase puts a limit on how much btc you can buy ... so since its at 8800 ish i got 1k worth
hope bitmain and coinbase approve my knc stuff so i can cash in the other 12k
cant wait for these as ive been buying cheep s9s
i saw the 25% pop up for taxes, ill try to do a review with stats and picts.
so coinbase puts a limit on how much btc you can buy ... so since its at 8800 ish i got 1k worth
hope bitmain and coinbase approve my knc stuff so i can cash in the other 12k
cant wait for these as ive been buying cheep s9s
so about to buy 5 s17+ 74th model asic miner from bitmain,
first time purchase is there anything you guys reccomend , cupons.
how have you paid for the gear,
Thanks in advance
Freemine
first time purchase is there anything you guys reccomend , cupons.
how have you paid for the gear,
Thanks in advance
Freemine
Definitely use coupons, many are selling them cheaper than mine which can be found here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52974848
The very first gear I bought with BTC (converted from cash, Coinbase was easier for me at the time and pretty straight forward) and ever since only bought gear with mined BTC. It appeared to me as reinvesting and increasing revenue generation (although with the difficulty increase, at times, I was just staying within the same generation bracket).
The passport/ID thing was standardised 1 year ago by Bitmain, part of the lovely control/knowing policy in China, I believe.
Be prepared for import taxes
Also, glad to see another fellow miner joining the ranks.
Any questions, always feel free to ask, people here are very helpful.
Good luck on your new adventure
so about to buy 5 s17+ 74th model asic miner from bitmain,
first time purchase is there anything you guys reccomend , cupons.
how have you paid for the gear,
Thanks in advance
Freemine
first time purchase is there anything you guys reccomend , cupons.
how have you paid for the gear,
Thanks in advance
Freemine
nice! wish I was making that big a purchase but I lack the reserves for that. after my initial purchase of quite a few miners, I can only do one or two at a time. I always recommend to use coupons if you can. My first order I paid via bank wire --- I do not suggest that. The fees are retarded. Ever since then I paid in btc or bch.
so about to buy 5 s17+ 74th model asic miner from bitmain,
first time purchase is there anything you guys reccomend , cupons.
how have you paid for the gear,
Thanks in advance
Freemine
first time purchase is there anything you guys reccomend , cupons.
how have you paid for the gear,
Thanks in advance
Freemine
I've never had a passport. The military handled my foreign visits.
But I did upload a pic of my PA drivers license which was accepted as ID.
But I did upload a pic of my PA drivers license which was accepted as ID.
do you really have to upload a passport picture ?
cant get the bit-main site to authenticate my account
??
the pitcure is just somting like 20x3 =? putting in 60 and says can still shop through real name
is this standard ?
cant get the bit-main site to authenticate my account
??
the pitcure is just somting like 20x3 =? putting in 60 and says can still shop through real name
is this standard ?
I gave no passport - Hell, I haven't had one for 20 years - since it was revoked lol
do you really have to upload a passport picture ?
cant get the bit-main site to authenticate my account
??
the pitcure is just somting like 20x3 =? putting in 60 and says can still shop through real name
is this standard ?
cant get the bit-main site to authenticate my account
??
the pitcure is just somting like 20x3 =? putting in 60 and says can still shop through real name
is this standard ?
In the bleachers, watching the pro's play down on the field of action...eating popcorn...no way to play even at my little league level with the 25% Tariff in play and/or the USA electric at 9.5c to 10c kWh. Thus, have to get more popcorn...
I did the math on the above at my 'bad' rate of electric of 10c kWh and $9,350.00 USD Bitcoin Price. Using What To Mine site: https://whattomine.com/asic. I get $5.82 a day. At flat difficulty (impossible...but go with this) that is a $5.82 a day into $2,111.00 without shipping nor a USA 27.6% import fee and Tariff as such.
360.85 days ROI, again at a flat difficulty and current $9,350.00 USD price. Getting a bit better, but still way, way, too rich for my blood. Again, IMHO. So I sit here with 'splinters' in my ass on the bleachers watching the others on here, on the field, with the ASIC play by play....alas
later
Brad
I did the math on the above at my 'bad' rate of electric of 10c kWh and $9,350.00 USD Bitcoin Price. Using What To Mine site: https://whattomine.com/asic. I get $5.82 a day. At flat difficulty (impossible...but go with this) that is a $5.82 a day into $2,111.00 without shipping nor a USA 27.6% import fee and Tariff as such.
360.85 days ROI, again at a flat difficulty and current $9,350.00 USD price. Getting a bit better, but still way, way, too rich for my blood. Again, IMHO. So I sit here with 'splinters' in my ass on the bleachers watching the others on here, on the field, with the ASIC play by play....alas
later
Brad
New stock available for end of December and January:
Antminer S17+ 73TH/s - https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=000201911052347597371vby3TxC06C6
Hashrate: 73TH/s
Shipping date: 21-31, Dec. 2019
$2111.00 (a bit cheaper for January)
S17e available as well for $1735 for December - https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020191105234453852spL85EO4065B
Antminer S17+ 73TH/s - https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=000201911052347597371vby3TxC06C6
Hashrate: 73TH/s
Shipping date: 21-31, Dec. 2019
$2111.00 (a bit cheaper for January)
S17e available as well for $1735 for December - https://shop.bitmain.com/product/detail?pid=00020191105234453852spL85EO4065B
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lol , just make sure you have some large static free bags (like for motherboards) take everything apart and put it in the bags,
call it testing equipment for solving math problems,
Can confirm on my last 3 orders, exactly 13% tax was paid for Ontario, Canada.
Hmmm.....I wonder though if they allow buying drugs in Canada to the USA without issues if they would allow 'Computer Servers' purchased USED in Canada via your Automobile. I guess it comes down to if at the USA border they would believe your claim or not. Likely, you'd get away with 1-2 for 'personal use' but anything more, not so much. I give it a 50/50 shot. I'd assume they'd call someone and find out it was an ASIC miner and you'd likely get tag'd or have to go back to Canada with it.
The problem with ASIC equipment is it is just exotic enough that border agents have probably seen it and remember such. Just saying. So sure, give it a try, but have your buddy follow in his car if you don't want to pay the tariff and have it go back.
There also is a 15% vat in Canada (15% National I think it was and 10% province...something like that) so in reality you are talking 12.6% more anyway. For that difference, you could just as well host it in Canada. But then again, if not too much trouble might be worth the hassle if you live in Minnesota or some such.
Anyway, my view, not that it means spit. I am in Minnesota and I don't plan to do this at these ASIC prices anyway.
Brad
The problem with ASIC equipment is it is just exotic enough that border agents have probably seen it and remember such. Just saying. So sure, give it a try, but have your buddy follow in his car if you don't want to pay the tariff and have it go back.
There also is a 15% vat in Canada (15% National I think it was and 10% province...something like that) so in reality you are talking 12.6% more anyway. For that difference, you could just as well host it in Canada. But then again, if not too much trouble might be worth the hassle if you live in Minnesota or some such.
Anyway, my view, not that it means spit. I am in Minnesota and I don't plan to do this at these ASIC prices anyway.
Brad
I have 3 units on order, due to ship in the next 2 months. No idea whats gonna happen with tariff.
But I have a friend in Canada I just thought of. Maybe future orders i can have shipped to him in Canada to avoid tariffs, and then he can forward to me.
But I have a friend in Canada I just thought of. Maybe future orders i can have shipped to him in Canada to avoid tariffs, and then he can forward to me.
But mabe that friend in canada wants to drive over to your house and see you , then the shpping stops in canada ,
1/3 of the tax should cover gas and expenses
road trip ! Can't legally do that. Unless you falsify the shipping/import documents, they will charge you 27.6% since it was manufactured in China. Doesn't matter if it stops in Canada.
Thats what i was afraid of.
I have 3 units on order, due to ship in the next 2 months. No idea whats gonna happen with tariff.
But I have a friend in Canada I just thought of. Maybe future orders i can have shipped to him in Canada to avoid tariffs, and then he can forward to me.
But I have a friend in Canada I just thought of. Maybe future orders i can have shipped to him in Canada to avoid tariffs, and then he can forward to me.
Can't legally do that. Unless you falsify the shipping/import documents, they will charge you 27.6% since it was manufactured in China. Doesn't matter if it stops in Canada.
I have 3 units on order, due to ship in the next 2 months. No idea whats gonna happen with tariff.
But I have a friend in Canada I just thought of. Maybe future orders i can have shipped to him in Canada to avoid tariffs, and then he can forward to me.
But I have a friend in Canada I just thought of. Maybe future orders i can have shipped to him in Canada to avoid tariffs, and then he can forward to me.
i am hoping my order comes that route too - less tax is better.
I have no idea why they sent 5 the cheap way and 2 the expensive way.
Maybe they figured out the best way to sell gear to the USA is assemble in Malaysia and ship from Malaysia for every USA order.
And maybe from now on all USA buyers get the gear shipped from Malaysia.
It is some what complicated as to Country of origin since chips are made in Taiwan. The chips are well over 60% of the unit's value.
So if chips are shipped from Taiwan to Malaysia you have the majority of the original parts not made in mainland China.
Yeah
I know Taiwan is considered to be China by China.
I know Hong Kong is consider to be China by China.
But in terms of trump tax it is a USA tax so it only matters what the USA considers Taiwan and Hong Kong to be.
If I was bitmain I would sell every piece to the USA via:
Malaysia - Hong Kong - USA
I can say poor me I am out 1230 vs 147.
but my partners spent 350 vs 2500.
When I get the next order it is in my name.
I am hoping to see if it ships via Malaysia - Hong Kong - USA and I pay 100 vs 900.
Maybe they figured out the best way to sell gear to the USA is assemble in Malaysia and ship from Malaysia for every USA order.
And maybe from now on all USA buyers get the gear shipped from Malaysia.
It is some what complicated as to Country of origin since chips are made in Taiwan. The chips are well over 60% of the unit's value.
So if chips are shipped from Taiwan to Malaysia you have the majority of the original parts not made in mainland China.
Yeah
I know Taiwan is considered to be China by China.
I know Hong Kong is consider to be China by China.
But in terms of trump tax it is a USA tax so it only matters what the USA considers Taiwan and Hong Kong to be.
If I was bitmain I would sell every piece to the USA via:
Malaysia - Hong Kong - USA
I can say poor me I am out 1230 vs 147.
but my partners spent 350 vs 2500.
When I get the next order it is in my name.
I am hoping to see if it ships via Malaysia - Hong Kong - USA and I pay 100 vs 900.
My S17 pros that arrived on Friday came from China, shipped to Canada.
Phil, were all those orders were placed through the website? I know they were offering the Malaysian units to larger customers, maybe some pulled orders when the price crashed so they started filling some online orders from the extra stock there.
But why would they not create a separate batch for units shipping from Malaysia? Seems crazy to just randomly start sending them out.
Phil, were all those orders were placed through the website? I know they were offering the Malaysian units to larger customers, maybe some pulled orders when the price crashed so they started filling some online orders from the extra stock there.
But why would they not create a separate batch for units shipping from Malaysia? Seems crazy to just randomly start sending them out.
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