Seems random. But not sure.
7 units shipped since October 25
2 on October 25 1x s17 53t 1x s17pro 50t came china to hong kong to usa 1200+ trump tax on 5000 order. double burn as price dropped on these units.
1 on October 26 2x s17pro came malaysia to hong kong to usa 67 trump tax and unit was 2200 for 1
2 on October 31 2x s17pro came malaysia to hong kong to usa 137 trump tax and units were 4400 for 2
2 on October 31 2x s17pro came malaysia to hong kong to usa 147 trump tax and units were 4400 for 2
of those 7 guess which 2 were mine the double burn order! I ordered a few days earlier paid more 5000 for 2 vs 4400 for 2 and full trump tax of 1230
about 3075 a unit.
my partners orders had price drop and just 2.6% tax for about 2300 a unit.
Now if you order today will you get a china departure or a malaysia departure? I don't know.
But I have more gear shipping this week these are in my name.
2 t17e's cost about 3350.
I may pay 100 or I may pay 900.
I will post back on what they do. My luck another double burn!
Topic: Bitmain Introduces the S17+ and T17+ - page 7. (Read 3389 times)
I don't suppose there is something that would help the 25% Tariff in the USA, like the T17 being shipped from Maylasia and the S17 being shipped from China?
I'm not getting any, but anything like that going on with various models that folks can tell? Sorry, just a thought?
later
Brad
I'm not getting any, but anything like that going on with various models that folks can tell? Sorry, just a thought?
later
Brad
Hard to define better. But s17 vs t17 is about 2400 watts for either one. The s17 does 53th. The t17 does 40th. So an extra 13th same power for them makes the s17 better. Price 2100 s17. Price 1200 t17 makes t17 better. So 13th for same power use is about 2 dollars a day this means in 450 days at current diff price ratio the s17 surpasses the t17. 450 days is forever in cryptomarket. If price of coin sky rockets that 13th will earn 4 or 6 or 8 in a day. This means the s17 surpasses the t17 in 225 days to 111 days. I try to blend s17pro and t17 when i pruchase.
Hello Guys,
Are there distinctive specs or features that would differentiate Antminer's S series ( S9j, S11, S17... ) vs the T Series ( T17, .. )?
Ultimately which is better the T series? or the S Series?
And why?
Are there distinctive specs or features that would differentiate Antminer's S series ( S9j, S11, S17... ) vs the T Series ( T17, .. )?
- Are there a distinctive difference in design?
- Are there a distinctive difference in perhaps "ASIC" models?
- Are there a distinctive difference in firmware / controller boards?
Ultimately which is better the T series? or the S Series?
And why?
I hear ya - my insurance costs me just shy of 5k per year (if i dont use it) then I have a 10k deductible - so I have to spend 15k each year before my insurance even pays a penny.
Well it is all off topic. But I pay and pay and pay and pay and pay for medical.
If I said I spent 20,000 out of pocket not counting my insurance policy fees I would be too low.
If I add in the insurance policy fees for my wife and I.
I am well over 85,000
If I add in my wife's bills I am over 110,000.
This would be from 1985 to 2019
If I add in what the policy's paid out I am well over 210,000.
Not counting anything but medical.
As for taxes my wife and I must have paid 1,000,000 in tax on about 2,500,000 in income same time period.
So yeah the extra 4-5k for the trump tax does not sit well with me.
If I said I spent 20,000 out of pocket not counting my insurance policy fees I would be too low.
If I add in the insurance policy fees for my wife and I.
I am well over 85,000
If I add in my wife's bills I am over 110,000.
This would be from 1985 to 2019
If I add in what the policy's paid out I am well over 210,000.
Not counting anything but medical.
As for taxes my wife and I must have paid 1,000,000 in tax on about 2,500,000 in income same time period.
So yeah the extra 4-5k for the trump tax does not sit well with me.
only those that work pay for it. We have a huge population that live off of welfare here that do not work even though nothing is wrong with them. Many prefer not to work at all. They can make a living off welfare - better than if they worked for some of them.
Free medical isnt technically free since we still end up paying for it from our taxes.
you guys get free medical correct? we get nothing 
You all complaining about the trump tax, while us, still paying 20% on almost all equipment that is shipped to the EU.
yea the limit 2 per order is not great,
they have protection also some sellers will take paypal.
back when gpu mining was hot i ordered from two sellers they were okay.
if you can find a good alibaba seller it is possible it may be better then direct from bitmain.
back when gpu mining was hot i ordered from two sellers they were okay.
if you can find a good alibaba seller it is possible it may be better then direct from bitmain.
what do you think about ordering from alibaba ? never ordered there before
Phill , Thanks for all the info, that trump tax is a killer, wish i could order each hash board for the t17+ separately to keep it under 800 ,
just have 50+ orders lol
Phill , Thanks for all the info, that trump tax is a killer, wish i could order each hash board for the t17+ separately to keep it under 800 ,
just have 50+ orders lol
where did you order the t17+ from ,
i have an partner who wants to buy 10 of them
i have an partner who wants to buy 10 of them
I ordered direct from bitmain.
As for trump tax I am USA based I paid 27.6% on my last 2 orders
1 s17 53t
1 s17pro 50t
If you are shipping into the USA expect to pay 20 to 28% tax depending on how it is valued.
I should pay an additional 1500 to 1600 trump tax on the
2x T17e list was 1665 3330 for two so that is between 750 to 850 trump tax
1x T17+ list was 1628 I had a 375 coupon so 1250 about 315 to 410 trump tax
1x t17 list was 975 It made a coupon but should be about 240 to 260
I am looking at 1305 to 1520
I just paid 1250
I have paid more then 4000 trump tax this year add the 1300 more I will have paid over 5300 trump tax by years end.
1x T17
@ freemine,
Please read the Deminimus thread here....
In short, regarding the Trump Tariff, what matters when importing gear into the USA is where equipment is built (made in China) - not where it is sold or shipped from.
Please read the Deminimus thread here....
In short, regarding the Trump Tariff, what matters when importing gear into the USA is where equipment is built (made in China) - not where it is sold or shipped from.
so the quote i got from alibaba
Model: T17+ 64T
Quantity: 10 units
Delivery: end December
price: $1849/Unit
shipping cost to USA ：$710
total : $19200
i need to add 25% or about 5,000???
if i buy from Sesterce Mining
do the tariffs apply as its in France ?
Model: T17+ 64T
Quantity: 10 units
Delivery: end December
price: $1849/Unit
shipping cost to USA ：$710
total : $19200
i need to add 25% or about 5,000???
if i buy from Sesterce Mining
do the tariffs apply as its in France ?
You guys see the 25% tariff warnings? I've bought before but this is the first time I'm seeing them
yes, the miners need to be under 800 if I recall to miss the tariff - I thought it was 1000 but someone told me 800
You guys see the 25% tariff warnings? I've bought before but this is the first time I'm seeing them
I have a lot on order...
where did you order the t17+ from ,
i have an partner who wants to buy 10 of them
yea I saw the new PayPal option. That would require me to convert my btc to USD and wait for the bank to process a transfer to PayPal - a delay I wouldn't like to deal with. at least not right now. As I do not have PayPal Credit nor do I want to open another LOC under my company name at this time.
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