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Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 275. (Read 531298 times)

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Why so serious?
Today its hot day usually it runs few C lower.

legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Hello. I have one of these and just want to ask how hot it runs for other people mine is about 45C boards and 90C chips. Chips seems a bit too hot. Does anyone know what are the safe temperatures fro those machines to operate on?

Thank you


your numbers are good

most want below 100c  chips

and below 65 c            boards.

but  all of mine are like 62c-92c  a spread of 30 c

I never read a 45c -90c until you

can you post a screen shot of your gui?

full member
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Why so serious?
Hello. I have one of these and just want to ask how hot it runs for other people mine is about 45C boards and 90C chips. Chips seems a bit too hot. Does anyone know what are the safe temperatures fro those machines to operate on?

Thank you
legendary
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Does Bitcoinwisdom still use the old block reward for litecoin?


 They do, though it's easy to fix.

 I suspect the owner of the site has either been way too busy, or just doesn't care enough about the site any more, to fix the block rewards.
 It would also be nice if they would update their markets selection on the main page.


 The flexability still makes it my favorite calculator by a wide margin.

I can not find any contact email or support or anything.

maybe here ----> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinwisdomcom-live-bitcoinlitecoin-charts-190722

Last Active:    August 27, 2015, 02:33:32 PM

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bitcoinwisdom-108544

Some of the last comments in the thread are talking about the litecoin calc not accounting for the halving.
grn
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Quote

Does Bitcoinwisdom still use the old block reward for litecoin?


 They do, though it's easy to fix.

 I suspect the owner of the site has either been way too busy, or just doesn't care enough about the site any more, to fix the block rewards.
 It would also be nice if they would update their markets selection on the main page.


 The flexability still makes it my favorite calculator by a wide margin.

I can not find any contact email or support or anything.

maybe here ----> https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitcoinwisdomcom-live-bitcoinlitecoin-charts-190722
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
Quote

Does Bitcoinwisdom still use the old block reward for litecoin?


 They do, though it's easy to fix.

 I suspect the owner of the site has either been way too busy, or just doesn't care enough about the site any more, to fix the block rewards.
 It would also be nice if they would update their markets selection on the main page.


 The flexability still makes it my favorite calculator by a wide margin.

I can not find any contact email or support or anything.
legendary
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Quote

Does Bitcoinwisdom still use the old block reward for litecoin?


 They do, though it's easy to fix.

 I suspect the owner of the site has either been way too busy, or just doesn't care enough about the site any more, to fix the block rewards.
 It would also be nice if they would update their markets selection on the main page.


 The flexability still makes it my favorite calculator by a wide margin.
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my shipment stopped by UBS for this reason (This package contains alcohol, and we are unable to deliver or return it to the sender. We'll contact the sender. )  Grin
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JUST FOR YOUR INFORMATION.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dhl-shipping-issues-who-is-at-fault-need-advice-squall1066-vs-bitmain-1551817

I have recently posted a scam accusation against bitmain, I DO NOT claim him to be a direct scammer, I am claiming he has used my details to ship multiple items.

I have been contacted with intent of investigation from a few importing authorities from around the world as to why I am not providing proof of identity due to KYC from these countries.

My units along with many others are now being sent back to bitmain.

I am, now acquiring legal representation to prove those units are not mine (easy as I have most of the inf I need) this is now costing me time and money.

lol I only ordered 2 units! I will not use bitmain directly again, this is just a stupid shipping mistake, but a costly one.

BITMAIN has not responded to my direct and indirect inquiries so hence this move.

Best all, carry on.
legendary
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Right, but

blocks of 12.95  since kano.is is paying about that each block

which is clearly visible in the screenshot. Anyone actually paying attention to the values they're putting into the calculator should notice the block payout set it to accurate.

- though I wonder if bitcoinwisdom is going to update the default settings anytime soon; perhaps they should be reminded?

I will email them

Does Bitcoinwisdom still use the old block reward for litecoin? I remember up until a couple months ago, they were still set at the old higher litecoin block reward size. They've never bothered to update the litecoin block reward.

I'm just pointing this out because they haven't bothered to update the bitcoin block reward size from 25 to 12.5.

Are they just lazy, don't care, or stupid?

I'm guessing not a top priority since you can change it your self on "Block Reward".   I would hope they are working on it and surprised it has not made it out there yet.  Still one of my favorite calculator's just have to make sure to change block reward manually right now.

I would hope no one actually uses it and does not manually update it.  As that would be quite a problem when calculating ROI.   But were kinda getting offtrack of S9, although this thread has a LOT of that it seems.
newbie
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Right, but

blocks of 12.95  since kano.is is paying about that each block

which is clearly visible in the screenshot. Anyone actually paying attention to the values they're putting into the calculator should notice the block payout set it to accurate.

- though I wonder if bitcoinwisdom is going to update the default settings anytime soon; perhaps they should be reminded?

I will email them

Does Bitcoinwisdom still use the old block reward for litecoin? I remember up until a couple months ago, they were still set at the old higher litecoin block reward size. They've never bothered to update the litecoin block reward.

I'm just pointing this out because they haven't bothered to update the bitcoin block reward size from 25 to 12.5.

Are they just lazy, don't care, or stupid?

Just use it then divide your results in half. or by two for the critics.
legendary
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Right, but

blocks of 12.95  since kano.is is paying about that each block

which is clearly visible in the screenshot. Anyone actually paying attention to the values they're putting into the calculator should notice the block payout set it to accurate.

- though I wonder if bitcoinwisdom is going to update the default settings anytime soon; perhaps they should be reminded?

I will email them

Does Bitcoinwisdom still use the old block reward for litecoin? I remember up until a couple months ago, they were still set at the old higher litecoin block reward size. They've never bothered to update the litecoin block reward.

I'm just pointing this out because they haven't bothered to update the bitcoin block reward size from 25 to 12.5.

Are they just lazy, don't care, or stupid?
legendary
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Merit: 9330
'The right to privacy matters'
Right, but

blocks of 12.95  since kano.is is paying about that each block

which is clearly visible in the screenshot. Anyone actually paying attention to the values they're putting into the calculator should notice the block payout set it to accurate.

- though I wonder if bitcoinwisdom is going to update the default settings anytime soon; perhaps they should be reminded?

I will email them
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Right, but

blocks of 12.95  since kano.is is paying about that each block

which is clearly visible in the screenshot. Anyone actually paying attention to the values they're putting into the calculator should notice the block payout set it to accurate.

- though I wonder if bitcoinwisdom is going to update the default settings anytime soon; perhaps they should be reminded?
alh
legendary
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One small item to consider. I am not 100% sure what block reward is being used by bitcoinwisdom on it's "Bitcoin Difficulty" page. When you drill down into the "Bitcoin Calculator" page, it still fills in a 25BTC block reward. You can obviously over-ride that, but it can be a bit misleading.

For profit/loss calculations, you might want to consider using the coinwarz.com calculator. It's obvious as to what it's using.
legendary
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legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
So, I take it the price of S9 hasnt been corrected for halving yet? ... looks outrageously overpriced...

these new batches released after halving are still insanely priced way too high

+1 here too, I am just sat waiting to buy at the moment.

Even with a low, nearly flat 2% network growth per interval it would take just over a year to ROI these things with fairly priced electricity ($0.67/kWh).

That's if they don't brick. If pool luck is steady. If network growth acts predictable. If you have 100% uptime on both Internet and power...

All that risk and your reward? Break even. This is a hobbyist's game now. Bitmain has discovered that there will always be people willing to pay more than these will ever return.

okay  so lets look at this above.

yes on the surface breakeven is in a year.  with   A  .067cent power rate and a  flat like  diff rate  of 2%

but many of us will use the heat   ..  I will use heat from them  in NOV- MARCH that is about 500 usd in heating saved.

IF they hold value better then the s-7 more like the s-5 I can sell them at 700 next July.

so the breakeven becomes +1200 and for a 1900 investment  3100 a year later is not so bad at all.

be negative and say you get 400 back on resale  so 1900 back for mining + 500 back for heat + 400 back  resale  means 1900 becomes 2800

So if you have the correct power  and setup   1900 looks pretty good.



What kind of software is this?  Is thin interface software?

that software in my screen shot comes from bitcoinwisdom.com

here it is. 

I used 2% diff jumps
with coin price at 650
 pool fee of 1%
 power at .067
blocks of 12.95  since kano.is is paying about that each block
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator
legendary
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Mine for a Bit
So, I take it the price of S9 hasnt been corrected for halving yet? ... looks outrageously overpriced...

these new batches released after halving are still insanely priced way too high

+1 here too, I am just sat waiting to buy at the moment.

Even with a low, nearly flat 2% network growth per interval it would take just over a year to ROI these things with fairly priced electricity ($0.67/kWh).

That's if they don't brick. If pool luck is steady. If network growth acts predictable. If you have 100% uptime on both Internet and power...

All that risk and your reward? Break even. This is a hobbyist's game now. Bitmain has discovered that there will always be people willing to pay more than these will ever return.

okay  so lets look at this above.

yes on the surface breakeven is in a year.  with   A  .067cent power rate and a  flat like  diff rate  of 2%

but many of us will use the heat   ..  I will use heat from them  in NOV- MARCH that is about 500 usd in heating saved.

IF they hold value better then the s-7 more like the s-5 I can sell them at 700 next July.

so the breakeven becomes +1200 and for a 1900 investment  3100 a year later is not so bad at all.

be negative and say you get 400 back on resale  so 1900 back for mining + 500 back for heat + 400 back  resale  means 1900 becomes 2800

So if you have the correct power  and setup   1900 looks pretty good.



What kind of software is this?  Is thin interface software?
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Who would buy an S7 for their prices? The return math at this point is even worse than an S9.
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