Topic: Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 276. (Read 531168 times)
July 16, 2016, 06:17:08 PM
July 16, 2016, 06:13:51 PM
So, I take it the price of S9 hasnt been corrected for halving yet? ... looks outrageously overpriced...
these new batches released after halving are still insanely priced way too high
+1 here too, I am just sat waiting to buy at the moment.
Even with a low, nearly flat 2% network growth per interval it would take just over a year to ROI these things with fairly priced electricity ($0.67/kWh).
That's if they don't brick. If pool luck is steady. If network growth acts predictable. If you have 100% uptime on both Internet and power...
All that risk and your reward? Break even. This is a hobbyist's game now. Bitmain has discovered that there will always be people willing to pay more than these will ever return.
okay so lets look at this above.
yes on the surface breakeven is in a year. with A .067cent power rate and a flat like diff rate of 2%
but many of us will use the heat .. I will use heat from them in NOV- MARCH that is about 500 usd in heating saved.
IF they hold value better then the s-7 more like the s-5 I can sell them at 700 next July.
so the breakeven becomes +1200 and for a 1900 investment 3100 a year later is not so bad at all.
be negative and say you get 400 back on resale so 1900 back for mining + 500 back for heat + 400 back resale means 1900 becomes 2800
So if you have the correct power and setup 1900 looks pretty good.
What kind of software is this? Is thin interface software?
that software in my screen shot comes from bitcoinwisdom.com
here it is.
I used 2% diff jumps
with coin price at 650
pool fee of 1%
power at .067
blocks of 12.95 since kano.is is paying about that each block
https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/calculator
July 16, 2016, 05:07:57 PM
So, I take it the price of S9 hasnt been corrected for halving yet? ... looks outrageously overpriced...
these new batches released after halving are still insanely priced way too high
+1 here too, I am just sat waiting to buy at the moment.
Even with a low, nearly flat 2% network growth per interval it would take just over a year to ROI these things with fairly priced electricity ($0.67/kWh).
That's if they don't brick. If pool luck is steady. If network growth acts predictable. If you have 100% uptime on both Internet and power...
All that risk and your reward? Break even. This is a hobbyist's game now. Bitmain has discovered that there will always be people willing to pay more than these will ever return.
okay so lets look at this above.
yes on the surface breakeven is in a year. with A .067cent power rate and a flat like diff rate of 2%
but many of us will use the heat .. I will use heat from them in NOV- MARCH that is about 500 usd in heating saved.
IF they hold value better then the s-7 more like the s-5 I can sell them at 700 next July.
so the breakeven becomes +1200 and for a 1900 investment 3100 a year later is not so bad at all.
be negative and say you get 400 back on resale so 1900 back for mining + 500 back for heat + 400 back resale means 1900 becomes 2800
So if you have the correct power and setup 1900 looks pretty good.
What kind of software is this? Is thin interface software?
July 16, 2016, 04:09:01 PM
Who would buy an S7 for their prices? The return math at this point is even worse than an S9.
July 16, 2016, 03:54:45 PM
July 16, 2016, 11:53:06 AM
So, I take it the price of S9 hasnt been corrected for halving yet? ... looks outrageously overpriced...
these new batches released after halving are still insanely priced way too high
+1 here too, I am just sat waiting to buy at the moment.
Even with a low, nearly flat 2% network growth per interval it would take just over a year to ROI these things with fairly priced electricity ($0.67/kWh).
That's if they don't brick. If pool luck is steady. If network growth acts predictable. If you have 100% uptime on both Internet and power...
All that risk and your reward? Break even. This is a hobbyist's game now. Bitmain has discovered that there will always be people willing to pay more than these will ever return.
okay so lets look at this above.
yes on the surface breakeven is in a year. with A .067cent power rate and a flat like diff rate of 2%
but many of us will use the heat .. I will use heat from them in NOV- MARCH that is about 500 usd in heating saved.
IF they hold value better then the s-7 more like the s-5 I can sell them at 700 next July.
so the breakeven becomes +1200 and for a 1900 investment 3100 a year later is not so bad at all.
be negative and say you get 400 back on resale so 1900 back for mining + 500 back for heat + 400 back resale means 1900 becomes 2800
So if you have the correct power and setup 1900 looks pretty good.
July 16, 2016, 11:31:32 AM
So, I take it the price of S9 hasnt been corrected for halving yet? ... looks outrageously overpriced...
these new batches released after halving are still insanely priced way too high
+1 here too, I am just sat waiting to buy at the moment.
Even with a low, nearly flat 2% network growth per interval it would take just over a year to ROI these things with fairly priced electricity ($0.67/kWh).
That's if they don't brick. If pool luck is steady. If network growth acts predictable. If you have 100% uptime on both Internet and power...
All that risk and your reward? Break even. This is a hobbyist's game now. Bitmain has discovered that there will always be people willing to pay more than these will ever return.
Ok I agree there is some risk. But I'm looking to grow my bitcoins. If you are only thinking in terms of fiat then yea I guess your pushing it. But I've got winter mining that is 5 months and many other factors that will contribute to my my success on this purchase. To each their own. It is a decentralized business everyone free to make their own decisions without being ridiculed. Sorry if I have offended anyone with trying to put my views on others. That's what Bitcoin is all about. Having your own voice IMO. Anyway good luck to all let's hope for a flat or declining diff for a bit.
Best regards
D57heinz
July 16, 2016, 11:18:23 AM
So, I take it the price of S9 hasnt been corrected for halving yet? ... looks outrageously overpriced...
these new batches released after halving are still insanely priced way too high
+1 here too, I am just sat waiting to buy at the moment.
Even with a low, nearly flat 2% network growth per interval it would take just over a year to ROI these things with fairly priced electricity ($0.67/kWh).
That's if they don't brick. If pool luck is steady. If network growth acts predictable. If you have 100% uptime on both Internet and power...
All that risk and your reward? Break even. This is a hobbyist's game now. Bitmain has discovered that there will always be people willing to pay more than these will ever return.
July 16, 2016, 09:24:07 AM
It looks like B8 isn't selling out.. and now B9 is back in stock again for the same price.
it is selling well 60 units in the last 24 hours on this account alone. and 93 units in the last 40 hours.
So about 120,000 usd in 24 hours and about 186,000 usd in the last 40 hours.
this is the newest page of their biggest selling account
https://blockchain.info/address/1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V
Code:
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0.1394 BTC
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2.113 BTC
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0.0146 BTC
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2.864 BTC
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2.886 BTC
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8.519 BTC
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3.137 BTC
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0.541 BTC
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1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 0.548 BTC
0.548 BTC
c4dcc366d30025bbbdca2f9e5171aeb24c8c23258d34e63f31fa2622505b8bdd(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-15 12:30:19
1J3csNxCmF5ufbxW2BioEcU5fWB5dbLjwp (1.948 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
14Ry82yxQGZpZKt7sWXmPzfxUwTTdPtzJX - (Unspent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 1.948 BTC
1.948 BTC
7bac8a1814a4ac4d8465cf3cad63be4811a43e30f318c85044b04e938d99cbd0(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-15 12:06:02
1Dxvd4Vm3ZwngZTMUzyq94KriH8mzNUog3 (5.866 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
1AaZMRXMojU8zymrQZF31ZMgrWjjsNfQXb - (Unspent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 5.866 BTC
5.866 BTC
0b01d6cba2bb77e218a7ec951ae645ad8b439697c6af9d07fda1ec104ae113b9(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-15 12:00:02
12zkUBpnemrzDzSrNhJcboFLZssA4V3Xm2 (38.88 BTC - Output)
1AfUYfD9mwChwuoxcnMkTLW1S9JcBn3osF (0.0002 BTC - Output)
115XJLyJFyJ2bHiDpJT8Q3PcHB9Hg131Rt - (Unspent) 0.0001 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 38.88 BTC
38.88 BTC
e85559186e22ec3c2eac14cdae2fe645f9c21b118552a63b157f4a999e821043(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-15 11:26:02
1HLn2ExKTEGgyTUZ7XXxecmh56Ce74qXC8 (2.19 BTC - Output)
1Acen3Ko5qCUe3rttA3SQhAa5pZbsE9X32 (0.0003 BTC - Output)
1AfUYfD9mwChwuoxcnMkTLW1S9JcBn3osF - (Spent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 2.19 BTC
2.19 BTC
e0877321f168d01c86a6898f29228dc23b73be780d311fddab5ae26cc6ebc379(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-15 09:20:02
1NioVPVxevosvqCWLDW9xLMemuZ5tE3kEV (0.745 BTC - Output)
1CupNZVLqnmpCNbxbtijJEJzZ4UAYDw1Hk (0.0004 BTC - Output)
1Acen3Ko5qCUe3rttA3SQhAa5pZbsE9X32 - (Spent) 0.0003 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 0.745 BTC
0.745 BTC
ba574cf20ab53cdee1c6ead7702cedd59c5a461d5c850c55139efeab9d4cdeea(Fee: 0.00017376 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-15 08:44:57
1HToSfCZDHJQXCqbibNax2sQsFAMhzSavo (0.00514 BTC - Output)
1HToSfCZDHJQXCqbibNax2sQsFAMhzSavo (0.04745745 BTC - Output)
1MuamnW5DZUipZLkimcMmtmFBG1kMRHJ2P - (Unspent) 0.00062369 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 0.0518 BTC
0.0518 BTC
40b8d4c0a8ad5980f8486b168c45fb77c5abbe3022366d9d4f378e264cb8c709(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-15 07:16:02
1KfJFXjSk7SwXzRmeAwDHgfBYxX2PGVqLx (0.994 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
1CupNZVLqnmpCNbxbtijJEJzZ4UAYDw1Hk - (Spent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 0.994 BTC
0.994 BTC
e43dc330080a30685bca91968bbb80c95d3b044b0fe45b7a50835e46d502b6bd(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-15 06:20:02
14AuuRbD3ex9CH4a7GhQNKUxNynsh26kZn (0.721 BTC - Output)
1EabxZoUZoFN3TgEgSTSDqgFjVQDU7JCg7 (0.0003 BTC - Output)
16wNszNp67mXTgX6whWUtetzFrjfKAYYGi - (Unspent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 0.721 BTC
0.721 BTC
38793914ee2b495da5fe7b8f6d504b09ebd347ae71a9f10cf9ad9ab3b0040fd4(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-15 05:54:02
16XUeWCHq36rqPxwcUoVq4P9mVku1WfLNR (2.953 BTC - Output)
1QKHSzaQP15HWBFxz9xsXuh4jr8Twr2KNS (0.0002 BTC - Output)
1AgqS8xKHQrff32itFDE7KiDNuH3GVNpij - (Unspent) 0.0001 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 2.953 BTC
2.953 BTC
ae306507af09c9ec52e49505aaec1312b061ff38d8672fd9a5c843df64a2a738(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-15 05:44:03
13c79hzoZRpayLdwSkaDFjHrDhATaHRFQu (65.72 BTC - Output)
16TWgYC8wAyDkFGyEoFx746cPzcEMoNXNu (0.0003 BTC - Output)
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 65.72 BTC
1QKHSzaQP15HWBFxz9xsXuh4jr8Twr2KNS - (Spent) 0.0002 BTC
65.72 BTC
8a4957a95746d0fc64402c8ebaa9c55c255bfbedf6415ebb98ccec3b8b2ac97a(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-15 05:44:02
1Gd7ZQ25Ci8YjoLpgZi5XLRxFkwPeHz5z3 (3.092 BTC - Output)
14L8dfsXgtfUnhUuWH4DUNYe1733Tu1aEY (0.0004 BTC - Output)
1EabxZoUZoFN3TgEgSTSDqgFjVQDU7JCg7 - (Spent) 0.0003 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 3.092 BTC
3.092 BTC
990438050d66f8935bc415103ef1abc787326de09848e0fab054ffe592fac2b8(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-15 04:30:02
18exCc2fuoRWERsPhB8ebNuAQ8Dbc3aqS (3.127 BTC - Output)
18Uk6kDNvrhbsKM3r2TKd2JZpJdfrWwU87 (0.0005 BTC - Output)
1KbBzuzp9QqVApVrMeHP6J8agXEd4HvACb - (Unspent) 0.0004 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 3.127 BTC
3.127 BTC
9037d3c704316768b194f796472c3d6c237e2b80c363f7040f4565dfad3059d8(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-15 03:24:02
1FAMoiN7m4xDtsAwj6grimZjbEhGuJydZb (1.447 BTC - Output)
17oGpQSENH6uVtaK57smwmgxyuAH981u68 (0.0002 BTC - Output)
1GE62dTo1Ag4WsPS1y8btQKS5jCK67SjSN - (Unspent) 0.0001 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 1.447 BTC
1.447 BTC
54798dbfd26a807b17e502041a8ad0dc5be8a981c39e6ce328db55e2d427023b(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-15 00:35:18
1N7YnYiaPnRj9WfUnapNs4GtYei8pbD8P3 (3.127 BTC - Output)
1CupNZVLqnmpCNbxbtijJEJzZ4UAYDw1Hk (0.0002 BTC - Output)
1JtBoab1rBWUWNgghNsPLXBrX3j1K66Cfw - (Unspent) 0.0001 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 3.127 BTC
3.127 BTC
abd1ce58ea634ac3164cc160628c8ede9035c583450e223a16c8040e4d001855(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-14 23:54:02
12XfpFU6wdJ8hGrJdSQXmZrMope9ufjKqP (3.127 BTC - Output)
1CdtD84taJKED3AnQhWGtGoDCK9yUUm8u8 (0.0003 BTC - Output)
1CupNZVLqnmpCNbxbtijJEJzZ4UAYDw1Hk - (Spent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 3.127 BTC
3.127 BTC
24d291b3602cca52165f2e93411d29d39047c03112f66585d439c8bc5d842a90(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-14 22:54:02
1BQo5HVyFm143YfSv2yP4MxzEHqMdBd3cx (1.589 BTC - Output)
1DLL4exqjVoKXhcmkjycawNcSrdWqeX6jF (0.0002 BTC - Output)
19htWTpLnKpRhTTdF7tkSY1VqwWQBMvRZz - (Unspent) 0.0001 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 1.589 BTC
1.589 BTC
2fbe8a42337c85d5ede65015d2c6a9fa235c3d30efc7f88f0035e8e225521dd0(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-14 22:42:52
13bWJjpZPQNy6DbDYo9vwrPPnni4dDbuWv (0.875 BTC - Output)
18i9btz3bJH5DvCgqzqh1r6WVEiYLQnYkk (0.0004 BTC - Output)
16wNszNp67mXTgX6whWUtetzFrjfKAYYGi - (Unspent) 0.0003 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 0.875 BTC
0.875 BTC
277694d17b576525fe31ef6c1dd69b00e979cd794e6b4f10cba8127698576aea(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-14 22:42:48
1G4xbuPLz312Rg9P5SmmWSydT8bo1j5gzH (12.298 BTC - Output)
1NfRKpHGe5wxdSYsZ44a154oJi3jxqQvSD (0.0003 BTC - Output)
1CdtD84taJKED3AnQhWGtGoDCK9yUUm8u8 - (Unspent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 12.298 BTC
12.298 BTC
435ff563221a5be3d7101356d9e595a131584c4f73eb4fbb977a85aa98b61b4f(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 372 bytes) 2016-07-14 21:10:09
1AM3j8R33wnPDe1FEXs2ZYeEqW2ZFeQSM (6.565 BTC - Output)
1GE62dTo1Ag4WsPS1y8btQKS5jCK67SjSN (0.0002 BTC - Output)
19ujBv7kfwJsSPuFovWWTcUMHm4f3paqbq - (Unspent) 0.0001 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 6.565 BTC
6.565 BTC
d6a7b9cf27255ab7a618d0c49782321041488e464f515fa20a4797488049ed95(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-14 21:06:02
1LMvhLwZWYbLLPzX4Q3FStRXT4TDoR1qAq (12.065 BTC - Output)
1CdtD84taJKED3AnQhWGtGoDCK9yUUm8u8 (0.0003 BTC - Output)
17oGpQSENH6uVtaK57smwmgxyuAH981u68 - (Spent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 12.065 BTC
12.065 BTC
538d521c47a9b467433a8cff48e7527730e0a667db20e8ed5740ac8d0f0b4e13(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 374 bytes) 2016-07-14 20:10:03
1DDJVUfrNbgnqhbLdTmz154vqiuZXPWn84 (57.016 BTC - Output)
1EnLJFdUsUd84KgHzPEwfHZXzCxqp1mqwk (0.0003 BTC - Output)
1GE62dTo1Ag4WsPS1y8btQKS5jCK67SjSN - (Spent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 57.016 BTC
57.016 BTC
7058a8012e245660dc02f826b33a45f15b828d6fbb8e37daf12845bc2096bc90(Fee: 0.0001 BTC - Size: 373 bytes) 2016-07-14 20:10:02
1NVhrcyYyQkV9KEDke228dYySAPWhCDUBu (2.864 BTC - Output)
1Acen3Ko5qCUe3rttA3SQhAa5pZbsE9X32 (0.0003 BTC - Output)
1DLL4exqjVoKXhcmkjycawNcSrdWqeX6jF - (Spent) 0.0002 BTC
1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V - (Unspent) 2.864 BTC
2.864 BTC
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July 16, 2016, 09:12:28 AM
It looks like B8 isn't selling out.. and now B9 is back in stock again for the same price.
July 16, 2016, 09:09:54 AM
Latest firmware seems to have issues with Kano and Nicehash. Slush works.
So did you upgrade your s-9 to the new firmware?
Or did you buy a newer batch that came with the newer firmware?
July 16, 2016, 07:54:52 AM
You guys realize that you're just trying to find rationalizations for your hobby/addiction/whatever you want to call it? 
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I bought one B8. 1896.36 USD shipped.
20 is better than 19 , this is my excuse for purchasing
July 16, 2016, 05:52:25 AM
Latest firmware seems to have issues with Kano and Nicehash. Slush works.
July 16, 2016, 04:29:26 AM
EVERYONE Watch your shipping details, DHL are stopping all my miners in customs! saying they need documentation of what it is and what it does!!
just a heads up, take care all.
So where are you from? Germany?
Uk, but unit going direct to USA, i found out bitmain had put in wrong contact details, as I am being asked customs info for a unit going into poland lol.
but my units in USA are being held, so quite a big mess IMO.
it happens, I hope bitmain helps me sort this out.
July 16, 2016, 01:22:17 AM
EVERYONE Watch your shipping details, DHL are stopping all my miners in customs! saying they need documentation of what it is and what it does!!
just a heads up, take care all.
So where are you from? Germany?
July 16, 2016, 12:01:20 AM
So, I take it the price of S9 hasnt been corrected for halving yet? ... looks outrageously overpriced...
these new batches released after halving are still insanely priced way too high
+1 here too, I am just sat waiting to buy at the moment.
I wish you luck on this. I think they may raise price to keep sales just slow or just fast enough.
So back to the s-5 against the sp20 as soon as they killed of the sp20 they raise price on the s-5 and slowed down growth.
I thought they would continue on like this with the s-7 but they were looking forward to the ½ they made the network grow like mad.. I thought they were stupid but now 400ph is dead gear and 800 ph is s-7 or avalon 6 close to dead.
No 1/2ing in site and they are the only one with .1 watt gear.
their best interest is to sell the s-9 at the highest price they can and limit growth of difficulty forcing out all the s-5's and below from now to sept or oct. So if you ware waiting for a 1200 dollar s-9 it wont be for a while.
Barring the bitfury seling a .1 watt miner.
They literally killed SP on the S5 and SP20 pricing. SP tried to compete and they claimed to be losing money at the end of it on SP20, don't know if truth in it. But Bitmain won that without a doubt.
One thing to is they can also mine them their self's. They don't have to sell every miner to user's like us they can keep some internal. If it makes more sense to keep internal vs selling cheap i'm sure it will stay internal. So I really don't know what to expect on price. It is a interesting time I will say I'm happy Bitmain is selling to home/hobby miner's still. If it was not for them I personally would not be mining currently as at my electricity S9 is only miner that really makes sense to mine as far as BTC goes.
July 15, 2016, 06:51:02 PM
So, I take it the price of S9 hasnt been corrected for halving yet? ... looks outrageously overpriced...
these new batches released after halving are still insanely priced way too high
+1 here too, I am just sat waiting to buy at the moment.
I wish you luck on this. I think they may raise price to keep sales just slow or just fast enough.
So back to the s-5 against the sp20 as soon as they killed of the sp20 they raise price on the s-5 and slowed down growth.
I thought they would continue on like this with the s-7 but they were looking forward to the ½ they made the network grow like mad.. I thought they were stupid but now 400ph is dead gear and 800 ph is s-7 or avalon 6 close to dead.
No 1/2ing in site and they are the only one with .1 watt gear.
their best interest is to sell the s-9 at the highest price they can and limit growth of difficulty forcing out all the s-5's and below from now to sept or oct. So if you ware waiting for a 1200 dollar s-9 it wont be for a while.
Barring the bitfury seling a .1 watt miner.
July 15, 2016, 06:32:20 PM
So, I take it the price of S9 hasnt been corrected for halving yet? ... looks outrageously overpriced...
these new batches released after halving are still insanely priced way too high
+1 here too, I am just sat waiting to buy at the moment.
July 15, 2016, 11:19:29 AM
Looks like the halving induced diff drop may be materializing. If it continues this could help.
July 15, 2016, 08:05:59 AM
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Because high prices like these make my batch 1 value stable. I can list and sell them for 1900 right now as I type.
I think it is very stupid to look at the miner as a store of value. Miner is a tool afterall...
A miner is btc in the disguise of a tool.
Asic miners and gpu's have been sold used time and time again
Sometimes they resell at premium price.
An S-5 purchased on Jan 2 ,2015 was close to 300 from bitmaintech due to a price battle against spondoolies.
That same miner could be sold for more then 300 on April 22, 2015 due to the price war ending.
Many other times mining gear sells at premium prices.
When coins rose from 200 to 400 in fall of 2015 gear went up in price.
I can sell gear due to a good reputation here I never fuck anyone and always try to offer a bit of a deal.
So for instance if:
A) coins jumped to 1500
B) bitmaintech sold new s-9's at 3000 usd
C) I would or might sell my 5 s-9's I would be sure to offer them a little lower price then anyone else.
D) I would sell in btc
E) I would sell to people that are prior buyers from me.
So for me the price of this gear can be high as it wants to be.
frankly this happened for me with sp20's
and did not happen for me with s-7's
I would not mind if it happens with the s-9's
sorry but gambling on miner's cost in the future is really retarded business model.
resale value is a (possible) bonus not a business model
I have been doing it since 2012 and I am one of many that do it.
I have been doing well with this as an addition to my business model. Depreciation and sale of the assets in the business of mining.
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