Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order - page 329.

philipma1957

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Quote from: edonkey on June 10, 2016, 06:19:54 PM

Are they using the same receive addresses as before?

It would be interesting to estimate how many S9s have sold so far.

yes I will give you a link

hashnest

https://blockchain.info/address/13vHWR3iLsHeYwT42RnuKYNBoVPrKKZgRv

bitmaintech

https://blockchain.info/address/1KwA4fS4uVuCNjCtMivE7m5ATbv93UZg8V

my batch 2

https://blockchain.info/tx/772becd0c897d8c9a5d1abe75b14a272431e98e298812b2533a6fb9d22dbc95a

bitmain transfer to main addy

https://blockchain.info/tx/c17ec3a551229b09a1b1db65dbafe58637385065bdaf707f105304b8290d87f6

edonkey

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Are they using the same receive addresses as before?

It would be interesting to estimate how many S9s have sold so far.

alh

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Looks like Batch 2 is completely sold out. Buy button is now Gray.

Let the Batch 3 speculation begin.........

GayEddie

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[Why is it every time I buy a miner off of bitmaintech there is some sort of chinnese holiday and delayed shipping?

sentralcore

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Wow! with that power consumption for 14th thatll be a good buy, but not now i guess Cheesy

Gona wait after halving and may consider, or even wait till the price drops to less than $1k

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Quote from: ATCkit on June 10, 2016, 03:46:17 PM

LOL- ya, Batch 3 will be limited too. It will be 10 THS and use only 980 watts at the wall....but cost you $1550. Sad

If bitcoin is $1000 by then and diff still below 300 I'd buy a couple

Until then I'm happy to let others crowdfund the pigopolist.

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Quote from: jermwerty on June 10, 2016, 12:27:05 PM

Quote from: Threader on June 10, 2016, 11:35:14 AM

Unless price of BTC doubles in short order after halving ( http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/ ) of Block rewards early adopters are screwing themselves paying these initial asking prices for S9.

Curious to see what the S9 will be selling for in August.

No technically everyone who buys this is screwing themselves, even if BTC price doubles. I think the doubling will happen (well 400>800) but the point is you'd be better off buying 3.4BTC and HODL rather than spend 3.4BTC to make 2.9BTC back in the future!

so buy and hold..

I did both I am holding coins . I am buying s-9's.

I will let you know which does better.

and once again all buy and hold predictions are wrong if this happens below.

Nov 05 2014 39,603,666,252 10.05% 283,494,086 GH/s coin price was 368

Oct 29 2015 62,253,982,450 2.25% 445,631,364 GH/s coin price was 295

so buying an sp20 on nov 5 2014 mining it for just under 1 year

vs buying a few coins on nov 5 2014 holding it for just under 1 year

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Quote from: suchmoon on June 10, 2016, 02:10:55 PM

Quote from: Puffy23 on June 10, 2016, 01:47:44 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on June 09, 2016, 08:45:04 AM

It's on, get it while it's hot

https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201606080945140191yC0JO150614

$1985 though... not a good price at all

Edit: 153.52 per TH/s vs $150 per TH/s for Batch 1. And shipped a week later. Ouch.

But... But... It says it's a limited edition!

Of course it is. Hashrate limited to 12.93 TH/s Wink

LOL- ya, Batch 3 will be limited too. It will be 10 THS and use only 980 watts at the wall....but cost you $1550. Sad

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Quote from: Puffy23 on June 10, 2016, 01:47:44 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on June 09, 2016, 08:45:04 AM

It's on, get it while it's hot

https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201606080945140191yC0JO150614

$1985 though... not a good price at all

Edit: 153.52 per TH/s vs $150 per TH/s for Batch 1. And shipped a week later. Ouch.

But... But... It says it's a limited edition!

Of course it is. Hashrate limited to 12.93 TH/s Wink

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Quote from: suchmoon on June 09, 2016, 08:45:04 AM

It's on, get it while it's hot

https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201606080945140191yC0JO150614

$1985 though... not a good price at all

Edit: 153.52 per TH/s vs $150 per TH/s for Batch 1. And shipped a week later. Ouch.

But... But... It says it's a limited edition!

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Quote from: hazenyc on June 10, 2016, 10:48:17 AM

Quote from: Finksy on June 10, 2016, 08:21:25 AM

Quote from: hhumaidan on June 10, 2016, 05:40:20 AM

Quote from: Biodom on June 09, 2016, 08:50:31 AM

Quote from: suchmoon on June 09, 2016, 08:45:04 AM

It's on, get it while it's hot

https://enshop.bitmain.com/productDetail.htm?pid=000201606080945140191yC0JO150614

$1985 though... not a good price at all

Edit: 153.52 per TH/s vs $150 per TH/s for Batch 1. And shipped a week later. Ouch.

Fahget about it!

I think you guys missed the power consumption of batch 1 1375 and batch 2 1275.

If you calculate it u will see that B1 and B2 are equivalent.

Efficiency is the same, but price per TH/s is higher on the later shipping batch which is a step backwards.

supply, meet demand.

They can make as little or as great of supply as they choose, there won't be any demand from this guy at that price. I guess there will always be those who are desperate enough to get the latest and greatest, or those who do reviews and want the early exposure. I know I made that mistake with the B1 S7's.

It seems to be nearly a consensus that there is a lot of markup built in to that price, we just need some competition or common sense to reach the market to get the pricing in check with reality.

Quote from: AriesIV10 on June 10, 2016, 11:43:46 AM

It is all speculation, but you do have historical average to see what may happen in the future. In 2010 did you buy Bitcoin at pennies on the dollar? Buy now, it will appreciate in value.

Exactly, buy coin and leave the S9's to the suckers. I never thought I'd hear myself say that, but it's true.

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Quote from: bspurloc on June 10, 2016, 12:43:21 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on June 10, 2016, 12:25:44 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 10, 2016, 11:51:26 AM

Quote from: klondike_bar on June 10, 2016, 11:42:25 AM

Quote from: bspurloc on June 10, 2016, 11:39:18 AM

at 1275watts is it now ok to use something like a EVGA Gold G2 1300watt?
Been Eyeballing 1600watts ones but 1300 is liek 150$ cheaper Wink

you'd be pushing it pretty hard.

easy solution is to underclock the S9 slightly, such as to 13TH - which would reduce your PSU load by 100W

Under clock a bit more to 11.5th. The 1300 g2 will work fine..

Then figure your math. You save 150 on the psu. But lose 2000gh to 2500th.

At current diff that's about $3 per day before power costs. So probably 100+ days ROI on that difference alone... I'd say if one already has a 1300W PSU they should probably underclock. If buying new - I'd buy a server PSU anyway.

well the 1300 only has 6 atx connectors so lame.

first of all, eight (four singles and two doubles=8); second, I bought two PCIe split cables (for $4 ea) that increase total numbers of connectors to 10. has been running many B1-5 and 6 like this for 6-8 mo already on EVGA 1300. S7 b1,3,5 has similar 1293 wattage, B2,4,6 even less watts.
EDIT: exactly what @suchmoon said as well ^^^^

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Quote from: bspurloc on June 10, 2016, 12:43:21 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on June 10, 2016, 12:25:44 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 10, 2016, 11:51:26 AM

Quote from: klondike_bar on June 10, 2016, 11:42:25 AM

Quote from: bspurloc on June 10, 2016, 11:39:18 AM

at 1275watts is it now ok to use something like a EVGA Gold G2 1300watt?
Been Eyeballing 1600watts ones but 1300 is liek 150$ cheaper Wink

you'd be pushing it pretty hard.

easy solution is to underclock the S9 slightly, such as to 13TH - which would reduce your PSU load by 100W

Under clock a bit more to 11.5th. The 1300 g2 will work fine..

Then figure your math. You save 150 on the psu. But lose 2000gh to 2500th.

At current diff that's about $3 per day before power costs. So probably 100+ days ROI on that difference alone... I'd say if one already has a 1300W PSU they should probably underclock. If buying new - I'd buy a server PSU anyway.

well the 1300 only has 6 atx connectors so lame.
What server PSU? I only have 110volt outlets. I'm not paying the power bill so don't really care about those costs.
I assume with a server PSU you have to add the 10 atx connectors. any good place for those if so? the cheapos are made with wire too thin for these amp ratings.

If I recall correctly EVGA G2 1300W has 8 PCI-e, two of which are shared but sufficient gauge to do ~150W or so needed for an underclocked S7/S9. A high-quality aftermarket splitter should be ok for the 9th one and the controller can be powered off Molex. Attempt this ONLY if you know exactly what you're doing otherwise it's a fire hazard.

If you don't care about the power costs I'm guessing you won't care about installing a 240V circuit either so perhaps the server PSU route is not for you

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Quote from: suchmoon on June 10, 2016, 12:25:44 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on June 10, 2016, 11:51:26 AM

Quote from: klondike_bar on June 10, 2016, 11:42:25 AM

Quote from: bspurloc on June 10, 2016, 11:39:18 AM

at 1275watts is it now ok to use something like a EVGA Gold G2 1300watt?
Been Eyeballing 1600watts ones but 1300 is liek 150$ cheaper Wink

you'd be pushing it pretty hard.

easy solution is to underclock the S9 slightly, such as to 13TH - which would reduce your PSU load by 100W

Under clock a bit more to 11.5th. The 1300 g2 will work fine..

Then figure your math. You save 150 on the psu. But lose 2000gh to 2500th.

At current diff that's about $3 per day before power costs. So probably 100+ days ROI on that difference alone... I'd say if one already has a 1300W PSU they should probably underclock. If buying new - I'd buy a server PSU anyway.

well the 1300 only has 6 atx connectors so lame.
What server PSU? I only have 110volt outlets. I'm not paying the power bill so don't really care about those costs.
I assume with a server PSU you have to add the 10 atx connectors. any good place for those if so? the cheapos are made with wire too thin for these amp ratings.

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Quote from: jermwerty on June 10, 2016, 12:27:05 PM

Quote from: Threader on June 10, 2016, 11:35:14 AM

Unless price of BTC doubles in short order after halving ( http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/ ) of Block rewards early adopters are screwing themselves paying these initial asking prices for S9.

Curious to see what the S9 will be selling for in August.

No technically everyone who buys this is screwing themselves, even if BTC price doubles. If think the doubling will happen (well 400>800) but the point is you'd be better off buying 3.4BTC and HODL rather than spend 3.4BTC to make 2.9BTC back in the future!

Exactly.

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Quote from: Threader on June 10, 2016, 11:35:14 AM

Unless price of BTC doubles in short order after halving ( http://www.bitcoinblockhalf.com/ ) of Block rewards early adopters are screwing themselves paying these initial asking prices for S9.

Curious to see what the S9 will be selling for in August.

No technically everyone who buys this is screwing themselves, even if BTC price doubles. I think the doubling will happen (well 400>800) but the point is you'd be better off buying 3.4BTC and HODL rather than spend 3.4BTC to make 2.9BTC back in the future!

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Quote from: philipma1957 on June 10, 2016, 11:51:26 AM

Quote from: klondike_bar on June 10, 2016, 11:42:25 AM

Quote from: bspurloc on June 10, 2016, 11:39:18 AM

at 1275watts is it now ok to use something like a EVGA Gold G2 1300watt?
Been Eyeballing 1600watts ones but 1300 is liek 150$ cheaper Wink

you'd be pushing it pretty hard.

easy solution is to underclock the S9 slightly, such as to 13TH - which would reduce your PSU load by 100W

Under clock a bit more to 11.5th. The 1300 g2 will work fine..

Then figure your math. You save 150 on the psu. But lose 2000gh to 2500th.

At current diff that's about $3 per day before power costs. So probably 100+ days ROI on that difference alone... I'd say if one already has a 1300W PSU they should probably underclock. If buying new - I'd buy a server PSU anyway.

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Quote from: klondike_bar on June 10, 2016, 11:42:25 AM

Quote from: bspurloc on June 10, 2016, 11:39:18 AM

at 1275watts is it now ok to use something like a EVGA Gold G2 1300watt?
Been Eyeballing 1600watts ones but 1300 is liek 150$ cheaper Wink

you'd be pushing it pretty hard.

easy solution is to underclock the S9 slightly, such as to 13TH - which would reduce your PSU load by 100W

Under clock a bit more to 11.5th. The 1300 g2 will work fine..

Then figure your math. You save 150 on the psu. But lose 2000gh to 2500th.

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It is all speculation, but you do have historical average to see what may happen in the future. In 2010 did you buy Bitcoin at pennies on the dollar? Buy now, it will appreciate in value.

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Quote from: bspurloc on June 10, 2016, 11:39:18 AM

at 1275watts is it now ok to use something like a EVGA Gold G2 1300watt?
Been Eyeballing 1600watts ones but 1300 is liek 150$ cheaper Wink

you'd be pushing it pretty hard.

easy solution is to underclock the S9 slightly, such as to 13TH - which would reduce your PSU load by 100W

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