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Topic: Bitmex/Derebit Tips - How to not lose your house and maybe even make some money - page 2. (Read 2625 times)

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Longing 4080 here I think
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I got absolutely blasted. Wrecked multiple times. Lesson learned, quit trying to catch the bounce. I'm making smaller, quick trades right now because I have absolutely no idea where this is going. I'm hoping for another 4k test.
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Well I was 100% right but jumped back in way too earlier. Very surprised it went this low. Should bounce back to 6k but who knows at this point.
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I’ve had a ridiculous experience with Bitmex, both fun and depressing, but I think I’m finally getting a grip on it, so I wanted to share some things I’ve learned. For clarity, when I first started using Bitmex, I lost about 3 BTC over the course of a month because I had no idea what I was doing and I’m an idiot. Since then however, I’ve taken .06 BTC and I’m currently at 2.7 BTC from Bitmex alone in a few weeks. It has the potential to make you rich, but also super broke. Do not take it lightly.

If you've never used Bitmex before, you can read my original newbie guide on how to start using Bitmex here: https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/84stai/bitmex_for_dummies_leveraged_trading_longshorts/

Also a reminder, you get 10% off fees if you sign up with a referral code. If you already signed up and didn’t use one, email support and ask them to apply one, it's pretty quick and definitely worth the 2 minute hassle. Would appreciate if you use mine, but just make sure you use something to get the 10% off: "http://bitmex.com/register/BCCNeF"

1. Maker vs Taker: I wasted SO much money on fees originally before I knew about this. Market buying/selling means you pay a fee and based on the last point that is very expensive. If you set limit orders and choose the "post-only" option, you will only place an order if it doesn't execute immediately. If the price hits your mark, you'll actually receive fees rather than paying them. While that seems super small, as mentioned when working with high leverages it adds up a LOT. Fees are based on leverage, so if you’re cross or 100x, you’d literally pay 7.5% just to open an order. At 100k contracts, this is nearly .01 BTC.
2. Cross Leverage: Far left on the leverage slider. This is 100x leverage, but it uses your entire wallet balance as margin. If you have 1 BTC and you open a position worth .1 BTC, on normal 100x leverage, your liquidation would be ~$60 away from your entry price. With Cross, you have .9 BTC as margin, meaning your liquidation would be about $600 away from your entry. Nearly everybody uses this because it helps guard against those fluctuations where you have the right call, but you got liquidated right before. It does mean you can lose 300% or 700% of your money though, so be warned, use stop losses.
3. Funding: In the bottom left of Bitmex, there’s a “Funding Rate”. Every now and then, this will get ridiculously high (i.e. if everyone is longing, and no one is shorting) and play a massive part in the landscape. If the fee is positive and you have a long open, you will pay that fee every 8 hours. If you have a short open in that situation, you get paid that fee. On 100k contracts and a .2 fee, this is .02 BTC, which isn’t bad at all. More importantly beyond the fee though is the pump/dump around it. In the case of a positive .2 fee, the price on Bitmex will tank ~30 minutes before funding (because everyone is closing their longs to avoid the fee) and the second that funding goes through it will skyrocket. Often times it’s worth it to pay the fee just for the price bump afterwards, but I’d honestly recommend just having no position if there’s a massive funding fee coming up.
4. DCA and Small loss vs Big one: There’s two schools of thought to a losing trade. You can dollar cost average, meaning, if I enter long at $9500 and it goes down, I can add more at $9400 to get my entry to $9450. This sometimes works beautifully if you truly believe it goes up. However, the flipside to that is that you add at $9400 and it then goes to $9200. That’s nearly a 300% loss. Adding at stoploss at let’s say $9430 would have lost you 80% instead. But there are times where your stop loss triggers and it shoots up right after. You need to make a decision in these situations how you’re going to handle it. I’ve done days where I make .2 BTC four days in a row and feel great, but then lose 1 BTC all because of one bad trade I refused to get out of and it’s all nullified.
5. Wait for entry and pre-set orders: Bitmex swings HARD. If Bitfinex has a $100 candle, Bitmex may have a $200 candle, solely because of overloaded blocking people from new orders meaning only orders on the books before the big candle are counted. Never, ever, ever, try to catch a candle. By the time your order goes through, it’s too late and you’ll likely be stuck with a terrible entry as it’s about to retrace. Additionally, use this to your advantage. If you expect a $100 pump, put your take profit close at $170 above, or a take profit earlier and then open a short at $170 above with expectations for a retrace. Even outside these large pumps, jumping into a wave is almost always a bad idea. If you miss an entry, just be patient. Missed profit is better than losing money.
6.Signals: You should learn how to do your own TA, but there’s also lots of Twitter guys/Discord groups that provide signals. One thing you’ll find is they never agree on anything. Don’t trust any single person because every single one will brag about how much money they’re making, but they can and will be wrong. Use them as guidelines, but not gospel

Great post for newbies
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I opened a short at 6315 and exited all my alt coin positions last night. This seems obvious to retest the lower 6000's again. Will keep an eye to see if anything changes my mind.
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Fortunately got out of that pretty early. Now long at 6285.
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Might take profit at 6370 or 6430. Depends on how today goes.
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Long at $6330 but will likely be a somewhat short one.
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Sometimes I wish I listened to my own calls. Currently short at 6520 rather than 6550 like I should be!
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6550 still seems possible, but 6420 seems to be a bit of a block. Scared to long here in fear of a quick 6050 drop. Sitting out tonight for sure.
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when you trade at a bitmex exchange or other exchange place you should be able to take advantage of price movements in the exchange and try to always get a lot of profits so don't lower their traders just using the existing facilities.
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Almost longed 6330 as things were looking juicy but felt too risky Sad

This still looks like it has some room to go. Maybe 6550?
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Really wish I did 6215 instead of 6200. Missed the jump. Not sure what is happening next. I think it should have pumped higher so now I'm skeptical.
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Glad I sat out. I think I'm targeting a 6200 long here.
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This is such a good post, thank you.

I also lost lot money at beggining using Bitmex.

Dollar average is nor really usefull in Bitmex, because they dont recalculate you base price like Bitfinex.

For example: If I buy 1 BTC on Bitfinex (margin) at $6400 and then I sell .8 with 2-3% up, they are going to leave lower lower base price. On bitmex they just close that % of your position.
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Activity: 378
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Insanely boring last couples days. I'm betting on a quick drop then a climb ,but I have no idea when or how much.
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Activity: 378
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Sitting out for a bit. Would like another long at 6325 or so. Or may short 6450.
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Took profit at 6425 and flipped to short. Likely a short term play.
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Missed the wick unfortunately. Still long here, but may close early.
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Boring day. Still looking at maybe 6500 to close this long.
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