That whole chat thing can be pretty convincing that BOG is under Dynastack, but as that was the focal point of the sales rep's proof of relation to Dynastack, I'm starting to think maybe they did get owned. There is absolutely no news about Dynastack opening up this child entity.
Also, the BOG website is hosted in Kansas somewhere and according to Dynastack's website, they don't have a datacenter there. Also, Dynastack's SSL certificate's meta-data is thoroughly filled out, and BOG's is blank. Probably beating a dead horse here but this one seems to be a bit more elaborate if it is a scam.
Topic: BitOfGlory.com - here's another one. - page 3. (Read 9512 times)
WHOIS dates to the 4th and is private. They are claiming to be under the company Dynastacks (a major hosting company). Dynastacks has public registration information, been around since 2005 (at least their domain has), and has no mention, links or ties to BitOfGlory.
I was greeted right away with a chat at Bit Of Glory, didn't need to put in my name, or any information, and nonetheless, the chat agent did not have the professionalism I would expect from a company as reputable and big as Dynastacks. And of course when I point that out, all of a sudden, the agent started using capitalizations, spelled out his words and proper punctuation. No more 'lols' and emoticons.
My verdict: Stay away.
I was greeted right away with a chat at Bit Of Glory, didn't need to put in my name, or any information, and nonetheless, the chat agent did not have the professionalism I would expect from a company as reputable and big as Dynastacks. And of course when I point that out, all of a sudden, the agent started using capitalizations, spelled out his words and proper punctuation. No more 'lols' and emoticons.
My verdict: Stay away.
Although slightly creeped out at how quickly you were able to poke holes in this I am feeling the same way. Something just felt off. I can't put my finger on it but I believe something isn't right. Going to investigate further. If any "liars, competitors etc" have any info please share.
edit: for some reason I thought i recognized the name but no one seems to actually know them. May have recently went under or some other shenanigans, the 866hosting is a bit odd.
I felt manipulated, like someone was pushing me and I wasn't sure why. Kinda timeshare-presentation-dirty aftertaste. Person used several timeshare sales tactics that I was able to pick up but could have been just an overly ambitious kid trying to make a buck.
Also, should be noted, even if they deliver on a few small contracts, could be easily purchased off of ebay and then setup as a short term bait into a larger contract. I would consider going in on a small contract if someone wants to test the waters (after reaching out to parent company tomorrow during regular business hours).
We cut and pasted a chat with that site rather clumsily, so apologies.
I'm not qualified to comment further
I'm not qualified to comment further
Roy H.How can I help with your hosting needs?
Client what hardware?
Roy H.Butterfly Labs Monarch
Client when start?
Roy H.no more than 24 hours
depends on our queue
Client monarch not exist yet
Roy H.yea it is does.. we have a direct partnership with them
we operate our own data center facilities
www.Dynastack.com
we have contracts with tons of hardware suppliers
just isnt available to the general public as of yet
but they started shipping early january
Client I will be free reviewer for you for bitcointalk.org
Roy H.ehh that site is full of liars
and competitors
getting over on companies
its ok
we have tons of real miners here.. who dont have time to sit on forums all day
the real whales - dont tell people their secrets or how they do things
it's the gossipers on bitcointalk.org who confuse people
we are as reputable in the hosting and cloud industry as any
if you do your due diligence
bitcoin miners all of a sudden start telling us how we are scammers
and that is as far from the truth as anything
8:16 am anyone who calls someone a scammer, is a scammer. Especially someone who hasn't even tried our servicee
https://bitcointalk.…k.org/index.php?topic=416688.0
like this guy
says we arnt owned by Dynastack
which is obviously untrue
if you go to Dynastack.com right now
our chat will pick up instantly
that's why we are considering keeping the miners we have
and closing our service
and continuing to sell cloud like we have been
we don't want any part of this business truly
haha
its no good man
90% of the customers in this industry
are scammers
they only want to pay by credit card
so they can chargeback after mining
its sad man
the miners will kill off their own industry
after we get out - data centers wont touch this industry with a ten foot pole
8:19 am we were the first to experiment
yes, we found some good customers
but 90% of them are cheaterswe were the first to experiment
yes, we found some good customers
but 90% of them are cheaters
they even hate companies like butterfly labs
and talk bad about them
not realizing that - the CEO of that company works hard to get those cards out
8:20 am and has a real business
but according to these "expert" miners..
he is a scam right?
very very sad
cloud customers dont act this way
hosting customers dont act this way
it's only these "special" bitcoin miners
lol
real linux admins laugh at this stuff
its childs play
Client what hardware?
Roy H.Butterfly Labs Monarch
Client when start?
Roy H.no more than 24 hours
depends on our queue
Client monarch not exist yet
Roy H.yea it is does.. we have a direct partnership with them
we operate our own data center facilities
www.Dynastack.com
we have contracts with tons of hardware suppliers
just isnt available to the general public as of yet
but they started shipping early january
Client I will be free reviewer for you for bitcointalk.org
Roy H.ehh that site is full of liars
and competitors
getting over on companies
its ok
we have tons of real miners here.. who dont have time to sit on forums all day
the real whales - dont tell people their secrets or how they do things
it's the gossipers on bitcointalk.org who confuse people
we are as reputable in the hosting and cloud industry as any
if you do your due diligence
bitcoin miners all of a sudden start telling us how we are scammers
and that is as far from the truth as anything
8:16 am anyone who calls someone a scammer, is a scammer. Especially someone who hasn't even tried our servicee
https://bitcointalk.…k.org/index.php?topic=416688.0
like this guy
says we arnt owned by Dynastack
which is obviously untrue
if you go to Dynastack.com right now
our chat will pick up instantly
that's why we are considering keeping the miners we have
and closing our service
and continuing to sell cloud like we have been
we don't want any part of this business truly
haha
its no good man
90% of the customers in this industry
are scammers
they only want to pay by credit card
so they can chargeback after mining
its sad man
the miners will kill off their own industry
after we get out - data centers wont touch this industry with a ten foot pole
8:19 am we were the first to experiment
yes, we found some good customers
but 90% of them are cheaterswe were the first to experiment
yes, we found some good customers
but 90% of them are cheaters
they even hate companies like butterfly labs
and talk bad about them
not realizing that - the CEO of that company works hard to get those cards out
8:20 am and has a real business
but according to these "expert" miners..
he is a scam right?
very very sad
cloud customers dont act this way
hosting customers dont act this way
it's only these "special" bitcoin miners
lol
real linux admins laugh at this stuff
its childs play
WHOIS dates to the 4th and is private. They are claiming to be under the company Dynastacks (a major hosting company). Dynastacks has public registration information, been around since 2005 (at least their domain has), and has no mention, links or ties to BitOfGlory.
I was greeted right away with a chat at Bit Of Glory, didn't need to put in my name, or any information, and nonetheless, the chat agent did not have the professionalism I would expect from a company as reputable and big as Dynastacks. And of course when I point that out, all of a sudden, the agent started using capitalizations, spelled out his words and proper punctuation. No more 'lols' and emoticons.
My verdict: Stay away.
I was greeted right away with a chat at Bit Of Glory, didn't need to put in my name, or any information, and nonetheless, the chat agent did not have the professionalism I would expect from a company as reputable and big as Dynastacks. And of course when I point that out, all of a sudden, the agent started using capitalizations, spelled out his words and proper punctuation. No more 'lols' and emoticons.
My verdict: Stay away.
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