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Quote from: SebastianJu on October 03, 2015, 06:05:34 PM

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Quote from: xhoneyael on October 03, 2015, 06:09:38 AM

look at this a newbie takeover those scam coin
it look like the same person to me aged account and just post today
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199392.new#new

If it is the same person than it was cleverly done by first not wanting to give the coin up and then it happens.

I was asked if i will forward the remaining funds to the new coin owner though at the moment practically all coins are already refunded or it is handled to refund them. I can't send the coins to a random person without the investors telling me to do so.

they have the list of who invest that bitcoin or maybe some of them already send you PM
i think they will not continue it anymore
new coin owner say that he will not get any BTC from doing that takeover
if the first coin owner told you that you need to send the remaining BTC to new coin owner
dont send any of it because he already told us that he will not get any BTC from it
that will be the proof that they are the same person
and its not better also to send it chinook because he is a scammer
it means your only choice if to send it back to the real owner

Yes, at that point i can not send anything anywhere without the consent of every proven investor. Otherwise it would raise questions when i sent it and the investor asks me why i did so.

Anyway... since the new owner took over, whether or not he is the same person as the first coin owner, did he say something about that he received the investments that the scammer received by changing the escrow address to one of his addresses? Or did the scammer keep these coins? It would be interesting to know if they were pushed.

he said that scammer kept the coins
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12589230

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Quote from: xhoneyael on October 03, 2015, 02:38:52 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on October 03, 2015, 09:20:52 AM

Quote from: xhoneyael on October 03, 2015, 06:09:38 AM

look at this a newbie takeover those scam coin
it look like the same person to me aged account and just post today
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199392.new#new

If it is the same person than it was cleverly done by first not wanting to give the coin up and then it happens.

I was asked if i will forward the remaining funds to the new coin owner though at the moment practically all coins are already refunded or it is handled to refund them. I can't send the coins to a random person without the investors telling me to do so.

they have the list of who invest that bitcoin or maybe some of them already send you PM
i think they will not continue it anymore
new coin owner say that he will not get any BTC from doing that takeover
if the first coin owner told you that you need to send the remaining BTC to new coin owner
dont send any of it because he already told us that he will not get any BTC from it
that will be the proof that they are the same person
and its not better also to send it chinook because he is a scammer
it means your only choice if to send it back to the real owner

Yes, at that point i can not send anything anywhere without the consent of every proven investor. Otherwise it would raise questions when i sent it and the investor asks me why i did so.

Anyway... since the new owner took over, whether or not he is the same person as the first coin owner, did he say something about that he received the investments that the scammer received by changing the escrow address to one of his addresses? Or did the scammer keep these coins? It would be interesting to know if they were pushed.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on October 03, 2015, 09:20:52 AM

Quote from: xhoneyael on October 03, 2015, 06:09:38 AM

look at this a newbie takeover those scam coin
it look like the same person to me aged account and just post today
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199392.new#new

If it is the same person than it was cleverly done by first not wanting to give the coin up and then it happens.

I was asked if i will forward the remaining funds to the new coin owner though at the moment practically all coins are already refunded or it is handled to refund them. I can't send the coins to a random person without the investors telling me to do so.

they have the list of who invest that bitcoin or maybe some of them already send you PM
i think they will not continue it anymore
new coin owner say that he will not get any BTC from doing that takeover
if the first coin owner told you that you need to send the remaining BTC to new coin owner
dont send any of it because he already told us that he will not get any BTC from it
that will be the proof that they are the same person
and its not better also to send it chinook because he is a scammer
it means your only choice if to send it back to the real owner

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This thread was moved to Altcoin Discussion. I think that's fine now. I guess everyone who invested knows about that till now.

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Quote from: xhoneyael on October 03, 2015, 06:09:38 AM

look at this a newbie takeover those scam coin
it look like the same person to me aged account and just post today
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199392.new#new

If it is the same person than it was cleverly done by first not wanting to give the coin up and then it happens.

I was asked if i will forward the remaining funds to the new coin owner though at the moment practically all coins are already refunded or it is handled to refund them. I can't send the coins to a random person without the investors telling me to do so.

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Quote from: EvilDave on October 03, 2015, 08:52:28 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on October 02, 2015, 10:39:19 AM

I would like to add to avoid ANN-Threads that are selfmoderated. Every legit business would be interested in discussing and clearing out problems when they arise. Hiding them is not a good sign.

It might make sense to have a subforum for altcoin-announcements where posts can't be edited. Or the announcements subforum is changed that way. I will see if the forum staff thinks that is a good idea.

Or insist that the escrow dude (SebastianJu in this case) starts and controls the [ANN] or redemption thread.

Interesting idea that did not came up to my mind yet.

In fact that could be a way to go. Of course at the start of the topic it must be made clear that the issuer is another person.

But it sounds like a doable way. I do not see any problems with that at the moment.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on October 02, 2015, 10:39:19 AM

I would like to add to avoid ANN-Threads that are selfmoderated. Every legit business would be interested in discussing and clearing out problems when they arise. Hiding them is not a good sign.

It might make sense to have a subforum for altcoin-announcements where posts can't be edited. Or the announcements subforum is changed that way. I will see if the forum staff thinks that is a good idea.

Or insist that the escrow dude (SebastianJu in this case) starts and controls the [ANN] or redemption thread.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on October 02, 2015, 02:35:07 PM

I wrote a bit more with the user who gave me the tip of his findings about the github commit and the shilling of certain known users. It was AltcoinSteps, the issuer of StepsCoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173385.new#new and it looks to me like he is a genuine altcoin fan who tries to stop altcoin scams from happening.

So thanks AltcoinSteps for finding the hints and letting me know so that further harm could be prevented.

Lets hope the community gets more cautious as a whole so that scams get seldom more and more. Cheesy

As an altcoin enthusiast it is very important for me that the altcoin scene needs to be cleared up of scams and all the negative publicity. We as devs and coders have the expertise to check codes of coins and it will be great if more devs start to do the same so we can rebuild trust in the altcoin community.

Escrow services are very important in the altcoin community and it is very good to see that SebastainJu took the necessary steps to expose a scam.

My sincere apologies to miners who lost on this coin and I sincerely hope that soon there will be legit coins, with good devs to mine.

well said. The madness must stop. Accountability is very important in Altcoins to build trust in this technology. I hope we can all come together and build a new way to make successful coins. Whilst ICO's can boost the progress of a coin; it can also hinder future projects if these threads are riddled with scam. Cheers to a better Altcoin environment.
more devs should donate their time to make good coins great, and I think we can build a better environment.

the Problem is 50/50 by the users too :-)
all People want 10000000000000000% Profit @ [InsertRandomCoinName] in the next 40 Hours !
but they get pissed when they loose 10% from her Investment.

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Quote from: AltcoinSteps on October 02, 2015, 05:25:58 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on October 02, 2015, 02:35:07 PM

I wrote a bit more with the user who gave me the tip of his findings about the github commit and the shilling of certain known users. It was AltcoinSteps, the issuer of StepsCoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173385.new#new and it looks to me like he is a genuine altcoin fan who tries to stop altcoin scams from happening.

So thanks AltcoinSteps for finding the hints and letting me know so that further harm could be prevented.

Lets hope the community gets more cautious as a whole so that scams get seldom more and more. Cheesy

As an altcoin enthusiast it is very important for me that the altcoin scene needs to be cleared up of scams and all the negative publicity. We as devs and coders have the expertise to check codes of coins and it will be great if more devs start to do the same so we can rebuild trust in the altcoin community.

Escrow services are very important in the altcoin community and it is very good to see that SebastainJu took the necessary steps to expose a scam.

My sincere apologies to miners who lost on this coin and I sincerely hope that soon there will be legit coins, with good devs to mine.

well said. The madness must stop. Accountability is very important in Altcoins to build trust in this technology. I hope we can all come together and build a new way to make successful coins. Whilst ICO's can boost the progress of a coin; it can also hinder future projects if these threads are riddled with scam. Cheers to a better Altcoin environment.
more devs should donate their time to make good coins great, and I think we can build a better environment.

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look at this a newbie takeover those scam coin
it look like the same person to me aged account and just post today
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1199392.new#new

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Quote from: ocminer on October 02, 2015, 12:26:42 PM

Because of the recent development of the Situation i am closing the pool.

Please stop mining and withdraw your remaining funds. Thanks

I don't have a working computer at the moment, so I don't have a wallet to withdraw them to. Ah well. Just keep the BSH I leave and I will chalk this up as another lesson learned in the grand world of crypto. Not like they're worth anything anyway. :-)

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Quote from: SebastianJu on October 02, 2015, 02:35:07 PM

I wrote a bit more with the user who gave me the tip of his findings about the github commit and the shilling of certain known users. It was AltcoinSteps, the issuer of StepsCoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173385.new#new and it looks to me like he is a genuine altcoin fan who tries to stop altcoin scams from happening.

So thanks AltcoinSteps for finding the hints and letting me know so that further harm could be prevented.

Lets hope the community gets more cautious as a whole so that scams get seldom more and more. Cheesy

As an altcoin enthusiast it is very important for me that the altcoin scene needs to be cleared up of scams and all the negative publicity. We as devs and coders have the expertise to check codes of coins and it will be great if more devs start to do the same so we can rebuild trust in the altcoin community.

Escrow services are very important in the altcoin community and it is very good to see that SebastainJu took the necessary steps to expose a scam.

My sincere apologies to miners who lost on this coin and I sincerely hope that soon there will be legit coins, with good devs to mine.

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Quote from: techbytes on October 02, 2015, 03:57:17 PM

I got my refund from SebastianJu. Took me three tries to get my message signed correctly. He was very thorough as he should be in confirming I own the btc address.

Thanks.

-tb-

Thanks for checking in and confirming that the refunds are handled techbytes.

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I got my refund from SebastianJu. Took me three tries to get my message signed correctly. He was very thorough as he should be in confirming I own the btc address.

Thanks.

-tb-

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I wrote a bit more with the user who gave me the tip of his findings about the github commit and the shilling of certain known users. It was AltcoinSteps, the issuer of StepsCoin: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173385.new#new and it looks to me like he is a genuine altcoin fan who tries to stop altcoin scams from happening.

So thanks AltcoinSteps for finding the hints and letting me know so that further harm could be prevented.

Lets hope the community gets more cautious as a whole so that scams get seldom more and more. Cheesy

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Quote from: proletariat on October 02, 2015, 11:37:35 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on October 02, 2015, 11:18:13 AM

............

Sorry to hear that you lost with this too now but i certainly like that you are honest, since yes, reputation and trust is very important if you want to stay in the community.

Well allow me not to sympathize with him. While apparently honest, he enables anyone to be a scammer. His clients CAN NOT code but they present themselves as talented people with legit intentions........... he knows all this and while he isn't doing anything illegal, it is highly immoral knowing that you provide the main tool for people to scam the noobs and some others in this forum.

I have read it as if he did not know what will happen and that he sold the second coin before the first one went scam.

At the end he is like someone selling a casino script. The new owners might use it to scam. Or a knife seller. It might happen that the knife gets used for bad things.

So far he could have put everything under the carpet to prevent publicity and gain 0.1 bitcoin. He chose not to so i think that is a good sign.

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Quote from: ocminer on October 02, 2015, 12:26:42 PM

Because of the recent development of the Situation i am closing the pool.

Please stop mining and withdraw your remaining funds. Thanks

This is the best thing to do glad you did that ....

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WOW this is to much scams never stop and lies about burn coin stealing from the investor they deserved to go to jail if you ask me stealing is stealing no matter how it done .....

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Because of the recent development of the Situation i am closing the pool.

Please stop mining and withdraw your remaining funds. Thanks

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Quote from: proletariat on October 02, 2015, 12:10:07 PM

Quote from: crunck on October 02, 2015, 11:50:23 AM

Quote from: proletariat on October 02, 2015, 11:37:35 AM

Quote from: SebastianJu on October 02, 2015, 11:18:13 AM

............

Sorry to hear that you lost with this too now but i certainly like that you are honest, since yes, reputation and trust is very important if you want to stay in the community.

Well allow me not to sympathize with him. While apparently honest, he enables anyone to be a scammer. His clients CAN NOT code but they present themselves as talented people with legit intentions........... he knows all this and while he isn't doing anything illegal, it is highly immoral knowing that you provide the main tool for people to scam the noobs and some others in this forum.

Oh come on!

Its no different from a car sales man that sells a car to someone who then goes out and ram raids a shop.

XUP on paper looked good, hence why I have some now, and I don't just leave my customers high and dry, I can develop the coin further for them if they so wish.

Do you think PC world should credit check and police check potential computer buyers just in case they might hack someone ?

I have also made other coins for people that are doing incredibly well and are listed on cryptsy, and trex with a high volume, its just unfortunate that in this instance the end users were idiots....

I don't know how a car salesman operate but I would like to believe they won't sell you a car if you can't drive and have no driver's license. Buyer took it out of the parking lot and run over a pedestrian.......... car salesman just laughs it off?? he sold him a car knowingly that the idiot can not operate it.

Point taken.

I don't wish to get into an argument here, I just provide a service and up until now all has been great and of coarse I shall not be building any more coins for these people, at least not knowingly.

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