Topic: bitscalper anyone use this ? [PASSWORDS LEAKED] - page 7. (Read 40998 times)
lol, we saw it coming
We are guilty of believing the myth that the "free market" is a magic wand that guarantees success and inefficiency when in fact the object of every trader is to give as little as possible (nothing if they can get away with it) and take as much as possible. That's why regulation and law is required to protect against scams. In real life we can see the crooks, their names get about, and their is a disincentive. On the internet we cannot do that and web of trust models or vetting by those with a reputation is a good idea. PGP/GPG signatures may be worth considering to enable verification that an identity is constant (and consistent) over forums and web sites.
If you lack of common sense and risking investing in shady businesses, no law will save you.
We are guilty of believing the myth that the "free market" is a magic wand that guarantees success and inefficiency when in fact the object of every trader is to give as little as possible (nothing if they can get away with it) and take as much as possible. That's why regulation and law is required to protect against scams. In real life we can see the crooks, their names get about, and their is a disincentive. On the internet we cannot do that and web of trust models or vetting by those with a reputation is a good idea. PGP/GPG signatures may be worth considering to enable verification that an identity is constant (and consistent) over forums and web sites.
Great, I feel like I have to wait a YEAR of operation now before I can trust a new BTC business again.
it's quite the problem. WE dont have traditional corps doing bitcoin for the most part.
and the people who do bitcoin like to remain anonymous.
and due to the nature of things, we are a temping target.
I'm not quite sure the best way to fix this.
we could have "trusted" long timers who know things like security and can read code to vet a site, of course I can see why some sites might not want to share code. But sites need to be as open as possible to the processes involved. And live wallet data is nice.
It is even hard to trust pools until they get a lot of uses and have been established.
This actually highlights one of the problems with the pure free markets, you need brave souls willing to put their lives or money on the line to test the waters and even then, you cant be assured that things will always remain the same. A popular scam is to build up trust, before you skip town.
I dont know but I think we need a trustworthy BTC service vetting service. something with well known names behind it. It wont be fool proof but it would help.
Judging by today's withdrawals it will be interesting to see if it can survive.
Have to say I have been cursing the site and just discovered I needed to have yahooapis scripts enabled to most of it.
Since I am near the end of the list I don't hold out much hope
Have to say I have been cursing the site and just discovered I needed to have yahooapis scripts enabled to most of it.
Since I am near the end of the list I don't hold out much hope
Great, I feel like I have to wait a YEAR of operation now before I can trust a new BTC business again.
So far the most successful business model in the bitcoin world is the oops-we-got-hacked-see-ya-later-guys model. FFS, this thing is never going to go anywhere if our standards are so fucking low.
Free market bro, fuck the powers that be. People who lose money simply deserve it. People who make them lose money deserve it. Might makes right. 
Yay, all hail bitcoin! Anonymous internet money for scamming.
So far the most successful business model in the bitcoin world is the oops-we-got-hacked-see-ya-later-guys model. FFS, this thing is never going to go anywhere if our standards are so fucking low.
Free market bro, fuck the powers that be. People who lose money simply deserve it. People who make them lose money deserve it. Might makes right. Exactly. Any idiot who put a significant amount of money in expecting that it was actually being used to scalp (LOL) deserves to lose their money if they didn't get out in time.
So far the most successful business model in the bitcoin world is the oops-we-got-hacked-see-ya-later-guys model. FFS, this thing is never going to go anywhere if our standards are so fucking low.
Free market bro, fuck the powers that be. People who lose money simply deserve it. People who make them lose money deserve it. Might makes right. Magical excuse for running off with peoples' money: "We got SQL injected and the plaintext passwords were stolen!!"
It's so old by now, it's growing a beard. And Bitscalper reeked of scam from day one... seriously, what excuse did they have for staying anonymous again? What was their trading tactic, and why exactly wouldn't they trade with one investor's money instead of distributing the inflow?
I haven't heard a single credible explanation to Bitscalper's "business model" yet. I would assume that what's happening now is either a scammer screwing up because caring for security is too expensive, or an intentional leak with the purpose of covering the tracks at the cost of some of the BTC at hand.
e.g.: Limit withdrawals to 20%, leave gaping security hole, wait until hole is discovered, withdraw 80% to own BTC addresses; announce "we are sorry, we have been hacked, OMG a lot of money is gone!"
It's so old by now, it's growing a beard. And Bitscalper reeked of scam from day one... seriously, what excuse did they have for staying anonymous again? What was their trading tactic, and why exactly wouldn't they trade with one investor's money instead of distributing the inflow?
I haven't heard a single credible explanation to Bitscalper's "business model" yet. I would assume that what's happening now is either a scammer screwing up because caring for security is too expensive, or an intentional leak with the purpose of covering the tracks at the cost of some of the BTC at hand.
e.g.: Limit withdrawals to 20%, leave gaping security hole, wait until hole is discovered, withdraw 80% to own BTC addresses; announce "we are sorry, we have been hacked, OMG a lot of money is gone!"
So far the most successful business model in the bitcoin world is the oops-we-got-hacked-see-ya-later-guys model. FFS, this thing is never going to go anywhere if our standards are so fucking low.
Magical excuse for running off with peoples' money: "We got SQL injected and the plaintext passwords were stolen!!"
It's so old by now, it's growing a beard. And Bitscalper reeked of scam from day one... seriously, what excuse did they have for staying anonymous again? What was their trading tactic, and why exactly wouldn't they trade with one investor's money instead of distributing the inflow?
I haven't heard a single credible explanation to Bitscalper's "business model" yet. I would assume that what's happening now is either a scammer screwing up because caring for security is too expensive, or an intentional leak with the purpose of covering the tracks at the cost of some of the BTC at hand.
e.g.: Limit withdrawals to 20%, leave gaping security hole, wait until hole is discovered, withdraw 80% to own BTC addresses; announce "we are sorry, we have been hacked, OMG a lot of money is gone!"
It's so old by now, it's growing a beard. And Bitscalper reeked of scam from day one... seriously, what excuse did they have for staying anonymous again? What was their trading tactic, and why exactly wouldn't they trade with one investor's money instead of distributing the inflow?
I haven't heard a single credible explanation to Bitscalper's "business model" yet. I would assume that what's happening now is either a scammer screwing up because caring for security is too expensive, or an intentional leak with the purpose of covering the tracks at the cost of some of the BTC at hand.
e.g.: Limit withdrawals to 20%, leave gaping security hole, wait until hole is discovered, withdraw 80% to own BTC addresses; announce "we are sorry, we have been hacked, OMG a lot of money is gone!"
How can you even think of letting your users' funds basically without any protection? This is sick.
This is very sloppy practice, but why should you really care if you plan to defraud your users anyway? The fact that Bitscalper stopped replying in this thread (while still checking it), despite climbing up reports about inability to withdraw funds, clearly speaks for his intentions.
Huh, fortunately I've used a generated password from 1Password there, so I really don't care if it leaked. Still, this is depressing... How can you even think of letting your users' funds basically without any protection? This is sick.
Interesting things are going on.
At the first view it looks like payment request were finally paid during the last days. But when you remember the large amount of payment requests since February 9, it's clear that only a few ones were paid. This are smaller payouts. It looks like all other payout requests were silently "rejected" and the bitcoins are back on the bitscalper user accounts.
Because of this and the last breaking news regarding passwords leaked, most of the "rejected" payout request were now requested again from the users plus some new requests.
There are currently about 1900 BTC payout request open (state processing) and still counting.
The user bitscalper has read inside this forum a few minutes ago. Still no reaction from his side.
At the first view it looks like payment request were finally paid during the last days. But when you remember the large amount of payment requests since February 9, it's clear that only a few ones were paid. This are smaller payouts. It looks like all other payout requests were silently "rejected" and the bitcoins are back on the bitscalper user accounts.
Because of this and the last breaking news regarding passwords leaked, most of the "rejected" payout request were now requested again from the users plus some new requests.
There are currently about 1900 BTC payout request open (state processing) and still counting.
The user bitscalper has read inside this forum a few minutes ago. Still no reaction from his side.
Bitscalper.com passwords have been leaked. More info.
I want to disbelieve this is not as popular as a 25 page thread would suggest it is. 
How many of you have been buying from legit bitcoin merchants? 
How many of you have been buying from legit bitcoin merchants? Good question; however making interest on bitcoin certainly seems like an appealing idea for all of the hoarders while they wait for bitcoins to become worth millions!
I have used bitcoins to purchase a future copy of Bitcoin Magazine.
I might be able to use them for a cab in Chicago in March. I will be visiting for St. Patty's day and someone is working with a Chicago cab company to get Bit-pay.com's Limocoin solution up and running!
Woot!
i've tried withdrawing twice now, first time cancelled by server, second time I am in the queue for around ~18 hours or so so far.
My withdrawal was pending for over 12 hours. I logged in again this morning and it gave me somebody else's random account apparently. Instead of my real balance I had a new balance of exactly 0.45BTC and the reports showed no earnings at all. Interesting! I sent them an e-mail to their support.
and there are some very big withdraws waiting - 50's 100's , 500(!)
lol.... that's not funny. I ended up getting most of what I put in out, finally.5BTC deposited on 2/3. 5BTC withdrawal requested on 2/3. Request canceled by server a couple days later. .0035BTC in losses by time account is accessible again. 4.9965BTC withdrawal requested on 2/6. 4.9091BTC paid out to my wallet on 2/6. ...As of 2/9, there's .588BTC on the account. Withdrawal requested, stuck in "processing." ETA: Today, the account balance is 2.6645352591004E-15 Bitcoin. ETA2: Wow. Was actually paid out on 2/13. Took a full 10 days from my original withdrawal request to get everything out, but ended up with ~5.5BTC. Was pleased just to get the 4.9.
and there are some very big withdraws waiting - 50's 100's , 500(!)
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