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Topic: BitShares scam2.0, Still scamming - page 5. (Read 12188 times)

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January 07, 2016, 03:12:44 PM
#65
I remembered BTS releasing BTS 2.0 last year and everyone was raving how good it was and the price increase that will follow. Now nobody cares about this coin anymore.

The fact that some whales dumped and bitshares didn't meet their objectives doesn't mean that "nobody cares about this coin".."coin"lol...what coin?? bitshares is not a coin... bitshares gives you the possibility for the first time to be able to have TRUE DECENTRALIZED MONEY (or coins if you like) like bitusd, bitcny, bitgold, bitbtc and not IOU btc of exchanges that risk to get hacked at anytime or fiat money saved in banks that risk to collapse anytime, or apply haircuts on your deposit or capital controls...

In other words we do not care about bitshares price. But we do care about what bitshares has to offer, which is decentralized fully collateralized bitassets. Assets collateralized by 200%-400% in bts value. In other words once people wake up, which will eventually wake up, and serious investors with lots of fiat money and many unbanked or small savers realize what bitshares can offer them then you will see bitshares overtake bitcoin sooner than you may think..

I don't want to start talking about other "coins" like bit-clothes, bit -oliveoil, bitoranges etc because most humans are not ready yet for that but since you are in crypto you should know better that this is where the world is going to..Now start think again about what bitshares can do..

Fundamentals don't lose in the long run.. Smiley

legendary
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January 07, 2016, 01:22:30 PM
#64
Hmmm.  

I didn't look real closely but I don't think any in your list are self-governing real time blockchain platforms open for others to add their own businesses and earn their own revenues...

  Smiley


Well, you and your son are facing the same cojone-cruncher as the top management of a mining-exploration company that benefitted from earlier hype only to become boring. In that sector, a penny stock falling 70&, 80% and even 90& while the mine is still being developed is one of the oldest stories in the exploration-lore "black book."

In fact, it's my own pa who clued me into this phenomenon. He said the best way to make money in mining-exploration penny stocks is to focus in on projects that are well advanced to shovelling out salable minerals but whose stock has plummeted because the punters are dumping it and chasing the latest fad with the proceeds.

In retrospect - take this as you will - BTS was pumped way too high when it was sexy. That's why you and your fellow stakeholders have had to endure a long, grinding bear market that's got folks like me buying some, leaving it on Polo, and then dumping it later while muttering "Damn - I tried to catch the falling knife again."

But that noted, you and your son do have the same attitude as the better sort of mining-exploration CEO. Namely, "never mind the stock price: keep building up the value. One day, it'll be a sleeper that'll wake up when folks finally recognize what we've done."
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 11:16:39 AM
#63
I remembered BTS releasing BTS 2.0 last year and everyone was raving how good it was and the price increase that will follow. Now nobody cares about this coin anymore.

Looks like you call all this peoples https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php?action=mlist as nobody
legendary
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January 07, 2016, 10:27:46 AM
#62
I remembered BTS releasing BTS 2.0 last year and everyone was raving how good it was and the price increase that will follow. Now nobody cares about this coin anymore.
hero member
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January 07, 2016, 10:07:19 AM
#61
Hmmm.  

I didn't look real closely but I don't think any in your list are self-governing real time blockchain platforms open for others to add their own businesses and earn their own revenues...

  Smiley
newbie
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January 07, 2016, 03:59:07 AM
#60
The business they grow is the business they own - and for this the BitSharesholders charge 20% for maintaining the world's most cost effective blockchain platform.

For business

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2.  The new Fee Backed Assets allow an entrepreneur to add a new feature and have 80% of its fees automatically routed to them and/or to the folks who paid for it's development.  The other 20%, once again, go to the BitSharesholders' Reserve Pool (i.e. the company savings account).  Fee Backed Assets then trade like any other asset, giving their holders a share of the revenue earned by the feature(s) they helped to build.

You know you only attract idiots and scammers with this bullshit
legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
legendary
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Degenerate Crypto Gambler
January 07, 2016, 02:33:57 AM
#58
I guess DE won  Cheesy


legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
January 07, 2016, 02:23:04 AM
#57
RIP Shares got dumped safely again.



Damn dat shit created so much bagholders in the last year  Grin

legendary
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Degenerate Crypto Gambler
January 07, 2016, 01:55:49 AM
#56
RIP Shares got dumped safely again.



Damn dat shit created so much bagholders in the last year  Grin
legendary
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January 02, 2016, 02:07:22 PM
#55
What happened with Memory Coin ?


MemoryCoin was designed and developed by FreeTrade so we should ask him.

PS: FreeTrade was contractor for BitShares-PTS (aka Protoshares) wallet release.

That doesn't matter thought does it.. read what i said.

It's not about some guy.. it's about the broken record on play still.

Testz, you know deep in your heart the Larimers over did it by taking advantage of the Bitshares community too much. Or are you really a part of it...


I know exactly that Larimers not connected to MemoryCoin and this is what I'm trying to say.
hero member
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January 02, 2016, 07:21:50 AM
#54
Yes keep "investing" in altcoins


legendary
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Life, Love and Laughter...
January 02, 2016, 04:52:16 AM
#53
What happened with Memory Coin ?


MemoryCoin was designed and developed by FreeTrade so we should ask him.

PS: FreeTrade was contractor for BitShares-PTS (aka Protoshares) wallet release.

That doesn't matter thought does it.. read what i said.

It's not about some guy.. it's about the broken record on play still.

Testz, you know deep in your heart the Larimers over did it by taking advantage of the Bitshares community too much. Or are you really a part of it...

legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
January 02, 2016, 03:41:13 AM
#52
What happened with Memory Coin ?


MemoryCoin was designed and developed by FreeTrade so we should ask him.

PS: FreeTrade was contractor for BitShares-PTS (aka Protoshares) wallet release.

That doesn't matter thought does it.. read what i said.

It's not about some guy.. it's about the broken record on play still.
legendary
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Merit: 1018
January 02, 2016, 01:33:55 AM
#51
What happened with Memory Coin ?


MemoryCoin was designed and developed by FreeTrade so we should ask him.

PS: FreeTrade was contractor for BitShares-PTS (aka Protoshares) wallet release.
legendary
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FUD Philanthropist™
January 01, 2016, 09:52:37 PM
#50
At this point the last thing you can call Bitshares is communist.

The new idea over there is to divide the value proposition Bitshares brings to the table into different pieces and auction them off the highest bidder. Looks like most of the community is getting behind it.

This project has real potential to subvert TPTB and their economic stranglehold, but instead seems to be trying to emulate them.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20205
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20207.0/all.html
https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20286.0/all.html

I am supremely disappointed. If there's a dire need for funding I would gladly take dilution over this any day of the week. It's still a cool project for what it is though.

Well, the nice thing is that many new options are being discussed and everyone is contributing to the gene pool of ideas.

How can you be disappointed about new entrepreneurs using the flexibility of BitShares to explore new business models - ways to get new features funded that otherwise would not be funded and ways for small players (investors and developers) to make their own contributions and be rewarded for it?

Are you suggesting that some Central Power ought to be stomping out all this renaissance of innovation?

Smiley



What happened with Memory Coin ?

The central authority on the "decentralized" altcoin lost majority control and cancelled the coin project.
You guys are more than happy to chant on while YOU control the strings being pulled.
And once you lose control you will change the coin or cancel the project.
Oh so "Decentralized" hahah

Crypto-Amnesia is a bitch huh ? LOL

Confuse the fucking shit out of the poor noobs itching to spend their Bitcoin on the next 2.0 shit coin with tech jargon.
Bitshares ???

At what point do you confuse and glut the market so bad with endless spin off's that the people just turns their back ?
legendary
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White Male Libertarian Bro
January 01, 2016, 07:48:57 PM
#49
Well, they are at it again and again and again. The only thing they seem to be consistent in is trying to pilfer more money off their delusional base.

They asked for $45K in cash to implement "stealth transfers" in BTS 2.0. Some poor schmuck over there decided he would give them $45K of his own money if he could recoup it in stealth transfer fee. (Although I suspect it may be a rouse. They have some "plant" offer up his money in hopes that it "inspires" the people with actual money to hand it over.)



LOL.  The level of gullibility over there is unbelievable.  I'm sure it's an absolute hayday over there for the Larimer Gang robbing these mental midgets day in and day out that they like to call "investors".  I know that it's hard to imagine that anybody could really be this stupid and that this has to be another one of their rouses, but keep in mind that the intelligence quotient over there is sub-zero.

@ your OP... they decided eventually to release Bitshares 2.0 under the MIT license, so basically your whole OP is rubbish now.

Yeah, I guess that scam was so obvious that they had to obscure it by releasing the code as "open source".  What a crock.  The fact remains that Cryptonomex Inc is actively attempting to sell their "product" to third-parties which will cut out all current Bitshares' investors.  Think about geniuses... If they are able to convince a company with greater liquidity than Bitsnares to have their own USD chain who is going to end up the winner?  The company with liquidity and money for marketing or the poor schmucks who just bought the Larimer Gang / Chicoms last Bitsnare?
newbie
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January 01, 2016, 05:06:17 PM
#48
For those of you who don't know Bitshares was sold as a decentralized exchange over two years ago to original investors who gave them Millions of dollars. They are now holding the original idea hostage to get more money. These fucking guys are amazing.

If you can be more efficient with "millions of dollars" than those "fucking guys" and once your initial funds dry up you are willing to fund it with your own money - I'll be happy to invest in your project.
If not - you are just being a meaningless smart ass.
legendary
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
January 01, 2016, 03:57:23 PM
#47
.... warning... we interrupt your normal programming tonight to inform you of breaking news on the bitcointalk forums .... this is not a test....

A few smart Bitcointalk users have discovered that in most cases people do not work for free so that other random strangers over the internet can profit from their work. Furthermore, they have also discovered that people whom are smart enough to develop their own cryptocurrency with bleeding edge features from scratch are not cheap to hire. This is certainly a ground breaking discovery and we will keep you posted on the details of this discovery as it develops.

..... We now return you to the normally scheduled programming for this hour titled "puppets and shills who are too scared to post under their real usernames that certainly have no ulterior motives" ......

This just in........................

They already took MILLIONS of dollars from users and promised to deliver a product for those Users.
And they have more than delivered.. have you even seen the Bitshares 2.0... jeez... here is a hosted version so you can see for yourself how great it is: https://bitshares.openledger.info/

Remember, they were the ones that cut off BTS investment to begin with on Feb 28th 2014. They were the ones who stopped collecting AGS. They did that because they collected a shit ton of BTC and PTS that would more than cover what they were trying to do. This was most likely during a time when they weren't particularly intending on scamming.
There was plenty of time to invest in Bitshares early. There was PTS and then there was AGS. If you didn't invest in mining PTS (the mining portion of the ICO) or AGS (the fundraising part of the ICO) because you didn't see the value in the project or didn't want to take the risk, then whose fault is that really? Everyone was on equal playing grounds as far as the Larimers or anyone else investing in Bitshares early. Obviously, Stan and Dan knew their intentions of delivering and Dan's capabilities so the invested more than your average investor. However, they had to raise and/or put in money just like everyone else and did not receive any special multipliers or anything. It was a fair ICO, so I'm not sure what you're getting at here.


Once they saw the money, cha-ching, they spent it flying across the country and to the Caribbean and realized they needed wanted more.
This is not true, they have developed the heck out of Bitshares. Bitshares 2.0 is wonderful compared to Bitshares 1.0 which was pretty much an alpha release.

The only way to do this was to pivot the project in unnecessary directions stagnating development, alienating the old original users, and sucking in noobs with dreams of the BTC lottery windfall from November 2013. There is a reason that every 6 months they changed the project in ways that would benefit them and hurt the investors.
They are trying to stay ahead in the cryptocurrency wars. Right now they are a successful project... a top 10 market cap ALT coin. They want to stay that way, and so do shareholders. This is why shareholders are investing in improving Bitshares 2.0 as it exists today, because they (along with BM and company) want to stay ahead of the competition.


And everytime they promised the sky and delivered half a turd.

"Now if that's a fact, tell me, am I lying?"
If Bitshares 2.0 is "delivering half a turd" to you then I don't know what to say, you are not the brightest crayon in the box, lying (... you asked me to tell you ...), or delusional.

@ your OP... they decided eventually to release Bitshares 2.0 under the MIT license, so basically your whole OP is rubbish now.
legendary
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In Cryptocoins I Trust
January 01, 2016, 03:43:17 PM
#46
Well, they are at it again and again and again. The only thing they seem to be consistent in is trying to pilfer more money off their delusional base.

They asked for $45K in cash to implement "stealth transfers" in BTS 2.0. Some poor schmuck over there decided he would give them $45K of his own money if he could recoup it in stealth transfer fee. (Although I suspect it may be a rouse. They have some "plant" offer up his money in hopes that it "inspires" the people with actual money to hand it over.)

Now they are asking for $70K per month, PER MONTH to finish the decentralized exchange. For those of you who don't know Bitshares was sold as a decentralized exchange over two years ago to original investors who gave them Millions of dollars. They are now holding the original idea hostage to get more money. These fucking guys are amazing.

https://bitsharestalk.org/index.php/topic,20827.0.html

... Bytemaster's post clearly says $30k a month, and that is for 4 quality developers that all work together in close quarters (in-person in the same office with office expenses.) Bytemaster has proven he can deliver. We could probably pay a different developer less, but the outcome would be unknown and it might end up being money burned. The Bitshares community trusts Bytemaster to deliver, so his time is worth more than any random developer we'd hire over the internet. He also already knows the codebase and is THE Bitshares source code expert because he wrote the damn thing. He deserves to be more expensive than other developers because his experience and knowledge is worth more.

Admittedly, the $45k FBA (fee backed asset... a new innovation in Bitsharesland) to implement stealth transfers is a risky investment. It also could very well pay off huge for onceuponatime, and is an awesome new way to fund features that no cryptocurrency has tried before. 80% of the Stealth transfer fee will be paid to him for eternity... that could end up being very lucrative depending on the success of Bitshares. I personally love it because it is a way of funding new development initiatives while adding value to BTS tokens at the same time with the added utility/features. It is admittedly a controversial feature.. not everyone loves it, but since when has Bitshares walked the path of conformity?
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