Topic: BitShares scam2.0, Still scamming - page 7. (Read 12188 times)

Dear Newmine, if you believe that the devs should work for free then you should probably go all in in coins like AuroraCoin, SpainCoin, GreeceCoin, SaveThePlanetCoin, SaveTheChildrenCoin etc... you have a list of more than 580 to choose from, good luck with that! On another point, I would like to inform you that sometimes in my spare time and mostly on weekends I like to play football(soccer), also I know lots of people that do the same, on the other hand there are some guys that also play football on a professional level and they are actually geting paid for it! can you believe this! SHAME ON THEM!!! Please go and buy/invest in coins where their devs code in their free time on weekends, I will stick with the full time professionals.

Would it please you to see graphene being used by ripple? (yes, I'm talking about those coinmarketcap cheaters) I think not. (You don't work for ripple, do you?) Graphene is not a toy, it's a nuke, delivering it to the bankers is stupid, please tell me that your mission is not to make us surrender our best weapon to the enemy.

I'm sorry to tell you this but our donation funds were not unlimited, we got so far with them and the last months we could barely afford bug fixing, now the devs found a better way to keep us going but this made you unhappy, I wonder why....(bad timing I guess? you had just sold at 8m marketcap? lol)   

As for your example with Ford, it's as stupid as it can get, software development takes time, money, and patience https://youtu.be/sBMmbHw8Ha4?t=29s but all you care about is waves, lots of waves, up and downs in price so you can profit from trading, obviously every crypto-trader's moto is "I will either find a way wave, or make one".

If by any chance you are not a trader I can think only of one alternative scenario...





 

   

another snapshot? i have one question, i had several balances of the former PTS, AGS and imported the keys some time ago into the new bts client.
when will i see the imported balances "official" in the bts client and is there a console command to verify what kind of balances will pop-up in the future?

Bytemaster and friends have you right where they want you.

I find it funny that the only justification you can come up with is that I am somehow trading based on my comments. I have never sold. I still have my Bitshares. Enough or small enough to where I won't cry over my loss. I have always thought bitUSD and the original vision was grand. The constant pivoting and money grabs make it hard to believe in anything these guys say. Licensing Bitshares code so they can profit was the kicker. You own BTS I assume? I do? BM does? We all own Bitshares and deserve a piece of the license. We all paid for it. They used your funds, my funds to write the code for Graphene or whatever. It was done on our dime and we never got what they promised for the get go. Just lies and stalling.

It's kind of like if Ford came to you and said "we need to build a factory with a revolutionary thing called an assembly line and you will be a partial owner of it, will you fund us?"
-you say, "hell yes, here's is a couple million"
-Ford says "cool it will be ready in a couple months. Then profit time for everyone !"
Couple months go by
-you say, "hey what's going on"
-they say, "we came up with a cooler idea and had to redesign"
-you say, "ok, when will it be done"
-they say, " a couple months"
A couple months go by
-they say, "we have the assembly line built, but it only has the ability to build 1/4 of a automobile"
-you say, " awesome. How long till it's fully completed?"
-they say, "a couple months, and we are coordinating a massive ad campaign to go along."
-you say, "sweet, can't wait"
A couple months go by, the assembly line is running better but still only builds 1/3 of an automobile
-they say "hey we are out of funds and need more money to finish. We have this great idea that we can pay ourselves in bits and pieces of what the assembly line produces to fund ourselves till the end of time. Otherwise we will go work for GM"
-you say, "just get us a completed assembly line and it's cool."
-they say, "no problem. We got this."
Assembly line then starts to stall because certain sections were installed backwards.
-you say, "hey, we walked through the plant and you have a problem that needs fixed"
-they say "we know. We are working on it"
A couple months go by
-you say, "Why hasn't the problem been fixed? We are losing money because of this.
-they say, "we are working on it, we know there is a problem"
-then they say, "guess what? We built a better assembly line that we will lease to you for free. But if you want upgrades, or fixes, you will have to pay us because we own the assembly line. Oh, and we reserve the right to help other people create assembly lines exactly like yours. AND, we will make people pay that want to partner up or streamline your assembly line in ways we cannot."
-You(Chryspano) said, "Where do I sign up, I'm on my knees waiting with my mouth open."
-I say, "WTF?"

Bah... every time that newmine sells low and buys high, we are forced to endure his nonsense.   

Can you track any conversion?

Nobody is suing Bitshares. In what mental gymnastics routine did you end up with that conclusion?

Ha. You have nothing to worry about I suppose.

I figured something had to because I knew it wasn't ethics.

A team of lawyers and accountants guides our every step.

Firstly, let me state that I really like the Bitshare tech and I think the lead dev Bytemaster is a honest and decent guy. At least he come cross as a decent and honest young man. So I don't have anything against them on the integrity of the main players, but I had the same concern about whether the Bitshare delegate system, DAC ownership and selling such virtual company ownership are the breach of US security laws. Being not an American I am not sure, but I understand the US security agencies could burn the house down if there is a breach, so I asked Stan about it at an other thread. He was nice and kind enough and answered, the answer was that you could see the problem from many angles which sounded an ambiguous interpretation of the problem. It still seems to me what Bitshare does clearly the breach of US security laws and it is quite illegal in the US.
Perhaps that's why they start this new company to set-up a legal framework for the project?

Actually I haven't bought any BitShares in a long time. Unless you count trading NOTE aka bitshares music for BTS.

Bitshares paired up with ccedk.com is a fucking joke. That exchange does around $10k in peercoin trades and all you fools are acting like Stan made a deal with Coinbase.

Right now I am going through Blue Sky Laws and the Uniform Securities Acts to see if there should be a complaint filed about their (Cryptonomex) arms reach funding by bitshares and bts Holders without properly registering,  which clearly made the formation of Cryptonomex and What they are claiming as IP possible.

There is no Bitshares 1.0 or 2.0. You guys are so full of shit it unbelievable that people still stand with you. You said Bitshares 1.0 would be released last November, if I remember correctly. Instead you decided to form a new company and license something that should not be licensed.

You are no different than BitGo trying to patent Multisig.

The BTS they got this year as delegates is worth about $5K.

Do the math.  BitShares 0.9 and 2.0, (and BitShares Music and BitShares PLAY) were developed at far below market rates and at zero negative profit.  

5600 BTC collected. 5600 *todays relatively low BTC price= a lot of money.

415,000 PTS collected. They say they gave it back, but only after they diluted the BTS supply to sharedrop more BTS to themselves, thus making PTS near worthless. Thanks for giving back the empty wrapper to the candy everyone funded you with.  415K*BTS/PTS =~60 million BTS

Each Developer, the people who were paid with AGS Funds and the share dropped drain on BTS have collected near 1,000,000 BTS over the last 6 months.

Now they are trying to drag down the current BTS system by licensing everything the people paid them to work on and are retaining the right to sell the system to competitors.

Oh and they will sell upgrades and add ons to Bitshares at a cost of course.

I prefer if you posts your posts at BTT first, here most of your readers.
Keep your motivation to point out anything that you see here.

PS: "after you locked and moved the thread"... 

In the beginning it was all about open source and the social consensus, at least that was what they promoted.

Then they made money via Protoshares, Bitcoin donations and Bitshares and now it comes to light that all this was to develop their own proprietary software. Bitshares has to be longest on-going scam in the cryptocurrency realm.

While this is without a doubt unethical and of dubious legal nature, I say this is outright fraud. Greed really brings out the most disgusting side in people.

Wait and see...