Topic: Bitsport No.1 LIVE Sportsbook Casino Bitcoin & Litecoin | LIVE Keno 300 BTC | - page 25. (Read 21421 times)
March 04, 2017, 05:03:10 AM
For a site that offers 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC deposit bonus, it sounds really good but kind of fishy too, as a new site that just started, how can the user be sure they are able to withdraw their LTC or BTC after they complete their wagering requirement on betting the whole amount of deposit on sports bet with a minimun odds of 1.80 and above? Maybe OP can consider lowering the amount of deposit to get the bonus?
March 04, 2017, 01:29:05 AM
Very nice site, will try this out today.
March 03, 2017, 06:25:50 PM
Currently we work with a sub-lincense.
By whom?As soon as we have aquired a license we will update the website.
In which jurisdiction do you apply for a master-license? March 03, 2017, 06:19:47 PM
As we mentioned Before we follow the rules to operate a casino and sportsbook.
The rules of which jurisdiction do you follow? One rule to operate a casino and sportsbook is to have a license...- Game-protect
Thank you for your reply
We will update our License on the site as soon as it becomes available.
This means you have no license?Thank you for your reply
We will update our License on the site as soon as it becomes available.
Currently we work with a sub-lincense.
As soon as we have aquired a license we will update the website.
Thanks
March 03, 2017, 06:12:08 PM
As we mentioned Before we follow the rules to operate a casino and sportsbook.
The rules of which jurisdiction do you follow? One rule to operate a casino and sportsbook is to have a license. 
- Game-protect
Thank you for your reply
We will update our License on the site as soon as it becomes available.
This means you have no license? Thank you for your reply
We will update our License on the site as soon as it becomes available.
March 03, 2017, 05:46:02 PM
- Wendigo
We have been Active since 2016 on beta test but launched this month.
Wagering factor is for the upcomming bonus. These condition will change when we announce our new bonus 1 april.
There are no ID or documents required for deposit and withdraw of funds.
We will only cancel your bonus if we suspect you of making several accounts to benefit the bonus.
As we mentioned Before we follow the rules to operate a casino and sportsbook.
- Game-protect
Thank you for your reply
We will update our License on the site as soon as it becomes available.
We have been Active since 2016 on beta test but launched this month.
Wagering factor is for the upcomming bonus. These condition will change when we announce our new bonus 1 april.
There are no ID or documents required for deposit and withdraw of funds.
We will only cancel your bonus if we suspect you of making several accounts to benefit the bonus.
As we mentioned Before we follow the rules to operate a casino and sportsbook.
- Game-protect
Thank you for your reply
We will update our License on the site as soon as it becomes available.
March 03, 2017, 05:33:22 PM
Your general terms and conditions are a legally binding agreement between me and ?
Between you and Bitsport.
Thanks
March 03, 2017, 05:31:46 PM
are you going to stall my withdrawal with some hidden terms and conditions? Just trying to clear any misunderstanding from the get-go here.
Good point. I just took a look at their terms, and there some pretty shady stuff.
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5.5. You authorise us to use any means/actions that we consider necessary to verify your identity and creditworthiness with any third party providers of information.
I'm guessing that everyone who takes it will be asked to do KYC, and probably need to give their credit report or something like that to withdraw. (what site asks for creditworthiness?) They might even ask for your credit card!
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9.6. Your winnings from settled bets are credited to your account and may be withdrawn in accordance with our withdrawal policy and if required by us, upon provision of a valid proof of address, utility bill, valid proof of photographic such as id/passport and/or credit/debit card to our satisfaction.
Once you give them that stuff, and they run out of stuff to ask (since it can be any third party providers of information), and for some reason all of it caused them to be satisfied, they might say your bet is illegal
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11.6. Bitsport reserves the right to adjust a bet payout credited to a Bitsport account if it is determined by Bitsport in its sole discretion that such payout has been credited due to an error or any kind of illegal or misused bets.
Claim you are part of a syndicate
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11.16. Hereby confirm that you are not part of a betting syndicate where several parties are involved in placing bets in order to evade the Sportsbook Rules, these Terms and Conditions or any other rules of Bitsport.
or used a program (who doesn't use a program?) I use Firefox. I might go to your site, which could be counted as DoS attempt and therefore causing your account to be banned
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3.7. You will not use any robot, device, spider, software, routine, program or other method (or anything in the nature of the foregoing) to interfere or attempt to interfere with the normal proper functioning of our services, any relevant device(s), software, the website, the sportsbook and betting information or any transactions offered on the website and in particular will not employ or make use of any artificial intelligence or other system(including machines, computers, software or any other automated systems) designed
specifically to defeat the Bitsport system and will not collude or attempt to collude with other players in order to defraud Bitsport or its customers.
specifically to defeat the Bitsport system and will not collude or attempt to collude with other players in order to defraud Bitsport or its customers.
Can't forget the multi-account rule, which can freeze your funds
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5.10. Only one account per IP/household/customer is allowed. If you attempt and/or successfully open more than one account, all of your accounts may be blocked, suspended
or closed and any bitcoin, litecoin or other digital currency credited to your account frozen until further notice.
or closed and any bitcoin, litecoin or other digital currency credited to your account frozen until further notice.
Maybe they will log in to your account by resetting your password through their backend, and steal your funds
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6.3. You agree to keep your password confidential and you are responsible for any misuse of your password. Any losses suffered due to a third party using your account will be not
refunded by us and further you shall have full responsibility for any third party using your login details and shall us harmless in respect of any damage a raising.
refunded by us and further you shall have full responsibility for any third party using your login details and shall us harmless in respect of any damage a raising.
BUT, lets say that none of that happens.
You'll be charged a 5% withdraw fee, and probably a 5% deposit fee that they "forgot" to apply.
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5.8. We reserve the right to apply a handling charge up to 5% deposits and withdrawals to cover transactions cost within the network.
and finally get your funds.
UNLESS you spent over 12 months in verification, proving you aren't part of a syndicate, e.t.c.
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5.9. We reserve the right to suspend player accounts that have been inactive for more than 12 months. If your account has been suspended, please contact [email protected] for instructions on how to reactivate your account and further details.
Where you have to reactive your account. (and who knows what happens after that?)
These are simply the terms and condition as a online operator for Casino and Sportsbook. These are all required to follow to gain a sportsbook and casino license. If you play with us or any other casino.
We offer instant withdraw and deposit. If you have any complaint or delay with your funds please Contact our Livechat or at mail and we will solve your problem right away.
Thank you for your reply
March 03, 2017, 05:30:08 PM
Your general terms and conditions are a legally binding agreement between me and ?
Between you and Bitsport.
Thanks
March 03, 2017, 05:20:08 PM
I have some more questions though.
Why does it say at the bottom that your website has been running from 2014 till 2017(now) when the domain was created on 2017-02-05?
Can you explain what this means? -
Do you need customers' ID to process withdrawals? -
Doesn't this sound a little bit too excessive? -
Will you ask for all these documents before a withdrawal is processed? -
Can you cancel your own bonus at any time? 10 Bonuses
I don't think your servers are based in Germany? Or are they?
Why does it say at the bottom that your website has been running from 2014 till 2017(now) when the domain was created on 2017-02-05?
Can you explain what this means? -
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Wagering factor for Sportsbook: 81 (minimum odd 1.
. Wagering factor for Casino: 151.
. Wagering factor for Casino: 151.Do you need customers' ID to process withdrawals? -
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3. Why is it necessary to fill in the passport details?
This is done for security purposes. In the case of winnings you will only be able to receive them if you present your identification document
This is done for security purposes. In the case of winnings you will only be able to receive them if you present your identification document
Doesn't this sound a little bit too excessive? -
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8. In what cases is the account blocked?
The company reserves the right to block your account if:
Your style of betting does not comply with the rules of our company.
Your account is replenished by mistake.
You use obscene phrases during telephone or “Chat” conversations.
To find out why your account has been blocked, please contact our support managers.
The company reserves the right to block your account if:
Your style of betting does not comply with the rules of our company.
Your account is replenished by mistake.
You use obscene phrases during telephone or “Chat” conversations.
To find out why your account has been blocked, please contact our support managers.
Will you ask for all these documents before a withdrawal is processed? -
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9.6. Your winnings from settled bets are credited to your account and may be withdrawn in accordance with our withdrawal policy and if required by us, upon provision of a valid proof of address, utility bill, valid proof of photographic such as id/passport and/or credit/debit card to our satisfaction.
Can you cancel your own bonus at any time? 10 Bonuses
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10.1. Bitsport reserves the right to cancel any bonus or bonus program (including, but not limited to deposit bonuses, reload bonuses and loyalty program) with immediate effect if we believe the bonus has been set up incorrectly or is being abused, and if said bonus has been paid out then we reserve the right to decline any withdrawal request and to deduct such amount from your account. Whether or not a bonus is deemed to set up incorrectly or abused shall be determined solely at the discretion of Bitsport.
I don't think your servers are based in Germany? Or are they?
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2. INFORMATION COLLECTED
We consider information that may be used to identify an individual, including, but not limited to, first and last name, date of birth, home or other physical address, email address, phone number or other relevant information to be Personal Information (‘Personal Information’). You may be asked to provide Personal Information when you use our website, register for an account or use our services. The Personal Information that we collect may include information such as: contact information (including telephone number), shipping information, billing information, transaction history, website usage preferences, and feedback regarding the Services. This information is held by us on servers based in Germany and elsewhere from time to time. When you interact with the services, our servers keep an activity log unique to you that collects certain administrative and traffic information including: source IP address, time of access, date of access, web page(s) visited, language use, software crash reports and type of browser used. This information is essential for the provision and quality of our services. We do not collect Personal Information about you without your knowledge.
We consider information that may be used to identify an individual, including, but not limited to, first and last name, date of birth, home or other physical address, email address, phone number or other relevant information to be Personal Information (‘Personal Information’). You may be asked to provide Personal Information when you use our website, register for an account or use our services. The Personal Information that we collect may include information such as: contact information (including telephone number), shipping information, billing information, transaction history, website usage preferences, and feedback regarding the Services. This information is held by us on servers based in Germany and elsewhere from time to time. When you interact with the services, our servers keep an activity log unique to you that collects certain administrative and traffic information including: source IP address, time of access, date of access, web page(s) visited, language use, software crash reports and type of browser used. This information is essential for the provision and quality of our services. We do not collect Personal Information about you without your knowledge.
March 03, 2017, 05:19:59 PM
are you going to stall my withdrawal with some hidden terms and conditions? Just trying to clear any misunderstanding from the get-go here.
Good point. I just took a look at their terms, and there some pretty shady stuff.
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5.5. You authorise us to use any means/actions that we consider necessary to verify your identity and creditworthiness with any third party providers of information.
I'm guessing that everyone who takes it will be asked to do KYC, and probably need to give their credit report or something like that to withdraw. (what site asks for creditworthiness?) They might even ask for your credit card!
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9.6. Your winnings from settled bets are credited to your account and may be withdrawn in accordance with our withdrawal policy and if required by us, upon provision of a valid proof of address, utility bill, valid proof of photographic such as id/passport and/or credit/debit card to our satisfaction.
Once you give them that stuff, and they run out of stuff to ask (since it can be any third party providers of information), and for some reason all of it caused them to be satisfied, they might say your bet is illegal
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11.6. Bitsport reserves the right to adjust a bet payout credited to a Bitsport account if it is determined by Bitsport in its sole discretion that such payout has been credited due to an error or any kind of illegal or misused bets.
Claim you are part of a syndicate
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11.16. Hereby confirm that you are not part of a betting syndicate where several parties are involved in placing bets in order to evade the Sportsbook Rules, these Terms and Conditions or any other rules of Bitsport.
or used a program (who doesn't use a program?) I use Firefox. I might go to your site, which could be counted as DoS attempt and therefore causing your account to be banned
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3.7. You will not use any robot, device, spider, software, routine, program or other method (or anything in the nature of the foregoing) to interfere or attempt to interfere with the normal proper functioning of our services, any relevant device(s), software, the website, the sportsbook and betting information or any transactions offered on the website and in particular will not employ or make use of any artificial intelligence or other system(including machines, computers, software or any other automated systems) designed
specifically to defeat the Bitsport system and will not collude or attempt to collude with other players in order to defraud Bitsport or its customers.
specifically to defeat the Bitsport system and will not collude or attempt to collude with other players in order to defraud Bitsport or its customers.
Can't forget the multi-account rule, which can freeze your funds
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5.10. Only one account per IP/household/customer is allowed. If you attempt and/or successfully open more than one account, all of your accounts may be blocked, suspended
or closed and any bitcoin, litecoin or other digital currency credited to your account frozen until further notice.
or closed and any bitcoin, litecoin or other digital currency credited to your account frozen until further notice.
Maybe they will log in to your account by resetting your password through their backend, and steal your funds
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6.3. You agree to keep your password confidential and you are responsible for any misuse of your password. Any losses suffered due to a third party using your account will be not
refunded by us and further you shall have full responsibility for any third party using your login details and shall us harmless in respect of any damage a raising.
refunded by us and further you shall have full responsibility for any third party using your login details and shall us harmless in respect of any damage a raising.
BUT, lets say that none of that happens.
You'll be charged a 5% withdraw fee, and probably a 5% deposit fee that they "forgot" to apply.
Quote
5.8. We reserve the right to apply a handling charge up to 5% deposits and withdrawals to cover transactions cost within the network.
and finally get your funds.
UNLESS you spent over 12 months in verification, proving you aren't part of a syndicate, e.t.c.
Quote
5.9. We reserve the right to suspend player accounts that have been inactive for more than 12 months. If your account has been suspended, please contact [email protected] for instructions on how to reactivate your account and further details.
Where you have to reactive your account. (and who knows what happens after that?)
These are simply the terms and condition as a online operator for Casino and Sportsbook. These are all required to follow to gain a sportsbook and casino license. If you play with us or any other casino.
We offer instant withdraw and deposit. If you have any complaint or delay with your funds please Contact our Livechat or at mail and we will solve your problem right away.
Thank you for your reply
March 03, 2017, 05:18:11 PM
You are a new betting site you do not need to ask for high deposits but have to provide some convenience to players and give some signup bonuses to people and easy rules and conditions to the players so that you get your site established which in the current situation is not possible.
March 03, 2017, 05:16:05 PM
Your general terms and conditions are a legally binding agreement between me and ?
March 03, 2017, 05:01:36 PM
are you going to stall my withdrawal with some hidden terms and conditions? Just trying to clear any misunderstanding from the get-go here.
Good point. I just took a look at their terms, and there some pretty shady stuff.
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5.5. You authorise us to use any means/actions that we consider necessary to verify your identity and creditworthiness with any third party providers of information.
I'm guessing that everyone who takes it will be asked to do KYC, and probably need to give their credit report or something like that to withdraw. (what site asks for creditworthiness?) They might even ask for your credit card!
Quote
9.6. Your winnings from settled bets are credited to your account and may be withdrawn in accordance with our withdrawal policy and if required by us, upon provision of a valid proof of address, utility bill, valid proof of photographic such as id/passport and/or credit/debit card to our satisfaction.
Once you give them that stuff, and they run out of stuff to ask (since it can be any third party providers of information), and for some reason all of it caused them to be satisfied, they might say your bet is illegal
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11.6. Bitsport reserves the right to adjust a bet payout credited to a Bitsport account if it is determined by Bitsport in its sole discretion that such payout has been credited due to an error or any kind of illegal or misused bets.
Claim you are part of a syndicate
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11.16. Hereby confirm that you are not part of a betting syndicate where several parties are involved in placing bets in order to evade the Sportsbook Rules, these Terms and Conditions or any other rules of Bitsport.
or used a program (who doesn't use a program?) I use Firefox. I might go to your site, which could be counted as DoS attempt and therefore causing your account to be banned
Quote
3.7. You will not use any robot, device, spider, software, routine, program or other method (or anything in the nature of the foregoing) to interfere or attempt to interfere with the normal proper functioning of our services, any relevant device(s), software, the website, the sportsbook and betting information or any transactions offered on the website and in particular will not employ or make use of any artificial intelligence or other system(including machines, computers, software or any other automated systems) designed
specifically to defeat the Bitsport system and will not collude or attempt to collude with other players in order to defraud Bitsport or its customers.
specifically to defeat the Bitsport system and will not collude or attempt to collude with other players in order to defraud Bitsport or its customers.
Can't forget the multi-account rule, which can freeze your funds
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5.10. Only one account per IP/household/customer is allowed. If you attempt and/or successfully open more than one account, all of your accounts may be blocked, suspended
or closed and any bitcoin, litecoin or other digital currency credited to your account frozen until further notice.
or closed and any bitcoin, litecoin or other digital currency credited to your account frozen until further notice.
Maybe they will log in to your account by resetting your password through their backend, and steal your funds
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6.3. You agree to keep your password confidential and you are responsible for any misuse of your password. Any losses suffered due to a third party using your account will be not
refunded by us and further you shall have full responsibility for any third party using your login details and shall us harmless in respect of any damage a raising.
refunded by us and further you shall have full responsibility for any third party using your login details and shall us harmless in respect of any damage a raising.
BUT, lets say that none of that happens.
You'll be charged a 5% withdraw fee, and probably a 5% deposit fee that they "forgot" to apply.
Quote
5.8. We reserve the right to apply a handling charge up to 5% deposits and withdrawals to cover transactions cost within the network.
and finally get your funds.
UNLESS you spent over 12 months in verification, proving you aren't part of a syndicate, e.t.c.
Quote
5.9. We reserve the right to suspend player accounts that have been inactive for more than 12 months. If your account has been suspended, please contact [email protected] for instructions on how to reactivate your account and further details.
Where you have to reactive your account. (and who knows what happens after that?)
March 03, 2017, 04:57:10 PM
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As a celebration the first 100 customers will get 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC free without any wagering conditions. The only requirement is that you deposit 10 LTC/0.1 BTC and bet the whole amount on sport ( minimum odd 1.8 ) or casino.
So does this mean that after I have deposited 0.1BTC and have won my bet on odds 1.8 or more I can withdraw 0.18BTC + your celebration bonus of 0.1BTC instantly or are you going to stall my withdrawal with some hidden terms and conditions? Just trying to clear any misunderstanding from the get-go here.
Hello Wendigo
That is correct this is a unique offer for only the 100 first customers, if you deposit 0.1BTC you will simply get 0.1BTC from freebet and (0.1BTC from your deposit) to claim this offer you need to accept the freebet.
Bet the total amount of 0.2BTC (0.1BTC freebet included 0.1BTC your bet) if you bet on 1.8x 0.2BTC = 0.36BTC
You can then withdraw in your profile page "withdraw" section and copy your wallet address.
There are simply no other hidden terms and conditions.
Thank you for your reply!
March 03, 2017, 04:46:56 PM
Hello guys, thanks you for your replies.
So Deposit minimum 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC to be entitled to the celebration bonus. We are offering this start bonus because we have not fully launched the 100% First Deposit Bonus.
So Deposit minimum 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC to be entitled to the celebration bonus. We are offering this start bonus because we have not fully launched the 100% First Deposit Bonus.
You are missing the point. A new site went up today, and is offering people essentially a 0.1BTC free bet, for the first 100 people without any reputation, proof of funds, any reason we should trust you, e.t.c. It's very suspicious and I don't think anyone will be participating unless you change that. (maybe escrow funds?)
Why should I trust you to not run away with my 0.1BTC?
Hello, Darkstar.
We are a new Sportsbook and Casino platform. We aiming to be the leading platform for BTC and LTC gambling. As you see we have one of the top gaming providers on our platform as NetEnt, Evolution, Ezugi etc.
We have a contract between us and our software providers and there is no Point in running away with your 0.1BTC. If you would like you can deposit and try it out for a smaller amount and withdraw.
To withdraw your funds you can simply go to the section in profile page "withdraw".
Since we give away freebet our terms and conditions for this freebet is to deposit 0.1BTC or 10 LTC for the first 100 Customers, you are not required to accept the freebet.
Thank you!
March 03, 2017, 04:44:39 PM
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As a celebration the first 100 customers will get 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC free without any wagering conditions. The only requirement is that you deposit 10 LTC/0.1 BTC and bet the whole amount on sport ( minimum odd 1.8 ) or casino.
So does this mean that after I have deposited 0.1BTC and have won my bet on odds 1.8 or more I can withdraw 0.18BTC + your celebration bonus of 0.1BTC instantly or are you going to stall my withdrawal with some hidden terms and conditions? Just trying to clear any misunderstanding from the get-go here.
March 03, 2017, 04:37:53 PM
Hello guys, thanks you for your replies.
So Deposit minimum 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC to be entitled to the celebration bonus. We are offering this start bonus because we have not fully launched the 100% First Deposit Bonus.
So Deposit minimum 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC to be entitled to the celebration bonus. We are offering this start bonus because we have not fully launched the 100% First Deposit Bonus.
You are missing the point. A new site went up today, and is offering people essentially a 0.1BTC free bet, for the first 100 people without any reputation, proof of funds, any reason we should trust you, e.t.c. It's very suspicious and I don't think anyone will be participating unless you change that. (maybe escrow funds?)
Why should I trust you to not run away with my 0.1BTC?
March 03, 2017, 04:26:08 PM
Thank you for your correction. 
As a celebration the first 100 customers will get 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC free without any wagering conditions. The only requirement is that you deposit 10 LTC/0.1 BTC and bet the whole amount on sport ( minimum odd 1.8 ) or casino.
As a celebration the first 100 customers will get 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC free without any wagering conditions. The only requirement is that you deposit 10 LTC/0.1 BTC and bet the whole amount on sport ( minimum odd 1.8 ) or casino.
Seems kinda fishy that you want people to deposit first. Could I get the 0.1BTC without needing to deposit but with a requirement of 1 bet? I sports bet quite a bit and would love to be able to test a new site for free. My username is DarkStar.
new user, new service, with a magic bonus ( ps 10 litecoin has a different value comparing to 0.1 btc ) but you need deposit 0.1 before mmmmm, not sure about it..
Hello guys, thanks you for your replies.
So Deposit minimum 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC to be entitled to the celebration bonus. We are offering this start bonus because we have not fully launched the 100% First Deposit Bonus.
March 03, 2017, 04:21:20 PM
Thank you for your correction.
As a celebration the first 100 customers will get 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC free without any wagering conditions. The only requirement is that you deposit 10 LTC/0.1 BTC and bet the whole amount on sport ( minimum odd 1.8 ) or casino.
As a celebration the first 100 customers will get 10 LTC or 0.1 BTC free without any wagering conditions. The only requirement is that you deposit 10 LTC/0.1 BTC and bet the whole amount on sport ( minimum odd 1.8 ) or casino.
Seems kinda fishy that you want people to deposit first. Could I get the 0.1BTC without needing to deposit but with a requirement of 1 bet? I sports bet quite a bit and would love to be able to test a new site for free. My username is DarkStar.
new user, new service, with a magic bonus ( ps 10 litecoin has a different value comparing to 0.1 btc ) but you need deposit 0.1 before mmmmm, not sure about it..
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