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legendary
Activity: 1596
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May 13, 2015, 05:38:56 AM
funny how people fud just check twitter they talk with VC today these guys are moving this system holding


Is just a matter of time for a vc ann about a start up investment, those who actually see pass this forum see the twitter action happening and also the community on slack.

Price drop again more and more Sad
Buy wall ks strong but price down more and more are this real or manipulation from FUDer ,,?


 i can say ya , see the distrbution on trex , many fuder and many panic sell make price down

*unfornately ,I should say Fuder win in this week , but see some day for boom
sr. member
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May 13, 2015, 05:11:46 AM
funny how people fud just check twitter they talk with VC today these guys are moving this system holding


Is just a matter of time for a vc ann about a start up investment, those who actually see pass this forum see the twitter action happening and also the community on slack.

Price drop again more and more Sad
Buy wall ks strong but price down more and more are this real or manipulation from FUDer ,,?
hero member
Activity: 686
Merit: 500
May 13, 2015, 12:11:00 AM
funny how people fud just check twitter they talk with VC today these guys are moving this system holding

Is just a matter of time for a vc ann about a start up investment, those who actually see pass this forum see the twitter action happening and also the community on slack.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
May 12, 2015, 10:44:34 PM
funny how people fud just check twitter they talk with VC today these guys are moving this system holding
legendary
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May 12, 2015, 07:53:29 PM
If people only knew (or bothered to learn) as to much much money flows thru Africa they'd be mind blown.  Educate yourselves people.
newbie
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May 12, 2015, 07:49:18 PM

It is mostly a US problem.  Here in America people don't realize how manipulated they are by the media.  They know nothing about the world outside US borders beyond what they see on CNN or FOX news.  We have people that still think Obama is setting up internment camps and is ready to declare martial law and take their guns.  It's hilarious.  The majority of Americans are brainwashed by the media.    

Agree with that! But to continue...

Have you actually been on the site and checked it out? Or in the Slack channel? Again, maybe this is because your a btc guy but they dont really care about btctalk. How many Nigerians are on btctalk? In stead of spending time on here debunking people whose only proof of "scam" is that promises made by other devs or projects "sorta" sounds like bitstake. Except they have done alot more than what the other projects promised and have explained themselves in slack everytime a deviation from plan has happened. I'd rather they be on Nairaland. If you haven't heard of that before that's a good thing, you really think the target audience of bitstake users are on here?
legendary
Activity: 896
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May 12, 2015, 06:36:45 PM
I don't have a problem when there is a reasonable effort put into Nigerian economy. Nevertheless there is still this image most of us have thinking about Nigeria.

Why did you pick this country and not any other in Africa?

Wow really? Who is most of us? I think thats more an US Problem. They dont look further than their guns can shoot. Thats by the way the image most of not US people have thinking about the US. Maybe there lies the problem.
Its called ignorance!


It is mostly a US problem.  Here in America people don't realize how manipulated they are by the media.  They know nothing about the world outside US borders beyond what they see on CNN or FOX news.  We have people that still think Obama is setting up internment camps and is ready to declare martial law and take their guns.  It's hilarious.  The majority of Americans are brainwashed by the media.    
full member
Activity: 238
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May 12, 2015, 06:31:23 PM

The correct way to launch a coin of this type would have been to have the remittance infrastructure in place and then launch the coin when it could actually be used.  The way it went the coin was launched first, then came the promises, delays, etc... just like all the other failed coin projects that never intend to deliver and are just a vehicle to increase the wealth of a few individuals before being abandoned and the parties involved move on to their next scheme.


What is the value that you would put on a coin that you described? Let's say there are about 1.3 MILL coins in existence and stakes at 5% a year. At the moment of launch the entire project's infrastructure is built and placed in your lap with 0 native users. How would you distribute that coin out? What is the value of 1 of those coins, $.01, $1, $242.22? (Sidenote it sounds like from other statements of yours that your belief is only for btc so I would think you might be able to relate to this problem) And this is a start-up company, you took the "start-up" from it. Wouldn't it be better for the value of the coin to grow in value as adoption truly grows?

The coin could simply be distributed the same way coins typically are.  Mining, ICO, givaway, etc...   The difference being that the project is complete and the coins can actually be used for their intended purpose immediately.  Currently coins are released with an outline of a project and a roadmap stretching way into the future that will likely never be completed.  And even if it is, the typical goals are nothing that will ever provide a path for widespread adoption.  Mobile wallets are not a game changer.  

People are currently mining and buying into coins with nothing but fancy graphics and boilerplate verbiage.  Logically people would mine a coin that already had a working product.  But then again, since the altcoin world has become nothing more than just one big worldwide online casino, people may not even be interested in an actual product.      

  

Both https://www.ziftrcoin.com/ and http://www.neucoin.org/en/ launched their presale without a product.

As a startup, you want to get out there as quick as possible. Currently, Bitstake have upperhand than any bitcoin exchange that plan to launch today with all their service ready. We already built our customer base.

Lastly, the website is nearly done. People are buying manually until the verification system for user profile is done. https://bitstake.co/
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
May 12, 2015, 06:26:29 PM
To get scope of Bitstake ongoing development contact us with with your email address for an invitation to bitstake Slack channel . https://bitstake.slack.com/


What's new?
New website design & UI with mobile responsiveness.  (will be revealed before/at official launch)
New Logo (ready)
Ad on http://www.nairaland.com/
Sponsored post on http://lindaikeji.blogspot.com/
Launched pilot program for few Nigerians to buy XBS & BTC with Naira.
Gave 1 btc to Nigerian blogger to document shopping experience with bitcoin.
Yet to launch the XBS bloggers shopping program.
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1001
May 12, 2015, 06:22:57 PM

The correct way to launch a coin of this type would have been to have the remittance infrastructure in place and then launch the coin when it could actually be used.  The way it went the coin was launched first, then came the promises, delays, etc... just like all the other failed coin projects that never intend to deliver and are just a vehicle to increase the wealth of a few individuals before being abandoned and the parties involved move on to their next scheme.


What is the value that you would put on a coin that you described? Let's say there are about 1.3 MILL coins in existence and stakes at 5% a year. At the moment of launch the entire project's infrastructure is built and placed in your lap with 0 native users. How would you distribute that coin out? What is the value of 1 of those coins, $.01, $1, $242.22? (Sidenote it sounds like from other statements of yours that your belief is only for btc so I would think you might be able to relate to this problem) And this is a start-up company, you took the "start-up" from it. Wouldn't it be better for the value of the coin to grow in value as adoption truly grows?

The coin could simply be distributed the same way coins typically are.  Mining, ICO, givaway, etc...   The difference being that the project is complete and the coins can actually be used for their intended purpose immediately.  Currently coins are released with an outline of a project and a roadmap stretching way into the future that will likely never be completed.  And even if it is, the typical goals are nothing that will ever provide a path for widespread adoption.  Mobile wallets are not a game changer. 

People are currently mining and buying into coins with nothing but fancy graphics and boilerplate verbiage.  Logically people would mine a coin that already had a working product.  But then again, since the altcoin world has become nothing more than just one big worldwide online casino, people may not even be interested in an actual product.       

   
full member
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May 12, 2015, 05:39:16 PM
3 _ we are still in beta- Even other bitcoin startup that tried to enter Nigerian market doesn't gain a lot of attention in Nigeria expect on coindesk and other bitcoin news site.

Bitstake became a Trending Topic on Nigerian Twitter feeds.


full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
May 12, 2015, 05:37:18 PM
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The whole xcloud saga was brought up at launch before and below was the response.

Why do you keep deleting my posts?  Won't you need that evidence when you sue me in court?

Ha ha ha

Loser

Do you know that the forum keeps achieve of deleted post ?

Rather than deleting posts and threatening people, why don't you prove it's not a scam? 

For example, when is that shitty website supposed to go live?  Considering this concept has been used in past scams, how do we know this is not the same situation?

Even though we have highly skilled developers on the team nor of us have developed a cryptocurrency before since we want the launch to be smooth and fork free. We enlisted the help of a developer on the forum offering coin creation which comes with the landing page development.

The twitter account was registered on Jan 7 http://snag.gy/DSPaJ.jpg. They claimed it was a previous handle which again is false.

Bitstake team is not associated with any other coins or pump group either bitswift, bitsquare etc.


newbie
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May 12, 2015, 05:36:33 PM

The correct way to launch a coin of this type would have been to have the remittance infrastructure in place and then launch the coin when it could actually be used.  The way it went the coin was launched first, then came the promises, delays, etc... just like all the other failed coin projects that never intend to deliver and are just a vehicle to increase the wealth of a few individuals before being abandoned and the parties involved move on to their next scheme.


What is the value that you would put on a coin that you described? Let's say there are about 1.3 MILL coins in existence and stakes at 5% a year. At the moment of launch the entire project's infrastructure is built and placed in your lap with 0 native users. How would you distribute that coin out? What is the value of 1 of those coins, $.01, $1, $242.22? (Sidenote it sounds like from other statements of yours that your belief is only for btc so I would think you might be able to relate to this problem) And this is a start-up company, you took the "start-up" from it. Wouldn't it be better for the value of the coin to grow in value as adoption truly grows?
full member
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May 12, 2015, 05:36:25 PM
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If Bitstake is a scam,

We will not have created XBS without presale and premine. Even majority of startup backed by VC with millions in funding had premine and presale.

We will not have spent the last 4 months working developing this project, without any community donations.

We will not have locked out foreigners from depositing XBS into the trading because there's no way to cash out into a Nigerian bank.

We will not have released thousands of XBS and blackcoin locked in the multi stake during the time out caused by bug.

We will not have any explosure on Nigerians blogs and newspaper and other bitcoin newsite.

We will not have delayed the launch because we needed more time improving the site and adding new features.




full member
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May 12, 2015, 05:23:19 PM
shojayxt
One of the main reasons why we launch coin with Bitstake was to get people to beta test our features and developed based on the feedback. Around launch, we already started that the coin was developed by a paid developer. That how Bitstake was linked to other past coins on this forum.

If bitstake was created by regular crypto devs, It will never have gained popularity that Bitstake has in Nigeria.


About the accusations, they have been addressed and these people kept posting the same comments all over again.
full member
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May 12, 2015, 05:19:32 PM
I don't have a problem when there is a reasonable effort put into Nigerian economy. Nevertheless there is still this image most of us have thinking about Nigeria.

Why did you pick this country and not any other in Africa?

Wow really? Who is most of us? I think thats more an US Problem. They dont look further than their guns can shoot. Thats by the way the image most of not US people have thinking about the US. Maybe there lies the problem.
Its called ignorance!
hero member
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May 12, 2015, 05:06:49 PM
I don't have a problem when there is a reasonable effort put into Nigerian economy. Nevertheless there is still this image most of us have thinking about Nigeria.

Why did you pick this country and not any other in Africa?
legendary
Activity: 896
Merit: 1001
May 12, 2015, 04:42:57 PM
from what we see in the media you can have the impression that nigeria is centuries behind a normal way of life... I mean, for me it is the same as Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria lol...

some countries in real big trouble and why bringing a monetary system to a place where other things are more important right now.

So you get your facts from CNN?  That's your first mistake.  There are many ways to find information about other countries and cultures.  You obviously were able to learn about crypto.  You should make the same effort to educate yourself about other things and forget about what you see in the media.
legendary
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May 12, 2015, 04:39:45 PM
Bitstake is operating in Nigeria which currently doesn't have any laws regarding digital currency.


Bitstake exchange not working - Not true
Only a Nigerian IP can access the exchange, foreign users are blocked out due to their state laws. If you sell bitcoin to Naira, how are you planing to cash out to naira. Considering the latest Fincen stands on USA companies, I am sure most of you will consider that as a good move.

Lending platform not working- false
Don't forget we're still in beta and people can still test by listing their loans applications. The only part left is the investors wallet on the platform, this is left out until we figure out who and who are allowed on the platform.

Within this past few months, we have achieved what other coins are trying to do for years and still failing. We entered mainstream adoptions, unbanked are using XBS and bitcoin. Our sms wallet is active with both bitcoin and XBS.

We already paid for Bitstake ad on 2 Nigeria's most popular websites.



Dev very nice to see this, thanks......not sure where the ill-placed FUD is coming fromHuh

Annnnnnnd of course here comes the expected (and useless) boko-haram and terrorist comments related to nigeria lol - love how it's just perfect to fud xbs with Roll Eyes - from teens who have NO IDEA what they're talking about, yet trying to throw more shit on the pile in this thread.  Guys not going to work, most xbs holders are strong hands and not worried about nonsense comments on this crappy forum lol...nice try though.

It's coming from the fact that there were a bunch of coordinated pumpers making all kinds of ridiculous claims and the fact that a few of the shills were attacking anyone that questioned anything and yelled fud fud fud whenever anyone was critical or asked legitimate questions.  

Posts like these didn't inspire any confidence with the obvious ridiculous claims from pumpers like this:

TO THE NEW XBS INVESTORS:

Bitstake is the single BIGGEST thing to happen to crypto, since BTC. I know the business model has not sunk into everyones head yet.

This is poised to go a $100 million dollar Market cap (probably a lot more). Likely multi-billion.

Invest 1 BTC and HOLD! Do not day trade it and you will likely have 100 to 1000 BTC in Months.

Do not get greedy and try to day trade. You will lose, because you never day trade a (stock) going parabolic. Same applies here.

You are a part of history. Buy 1 BTC and forget about it.

Thanks
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These pumpers making ridiculous claims and telling people to buy and hold while they sold.  There are also many other red flags but I won't get into that.  It's up to individuals to do their research.  

The remittance business does have potential and a legitimate coin to be used for that purpose could potentially be successful.  The problem with this coin it was launched five months ago with a bunch of promises and no infrastructure in place.  The correct way to launch a coin of this type would have been to have the remittance infrastructure in place and then launch the coin when it could actually be used.  The way it went the coin was launched first, then came the promises, delays, etc... just like all the other failed coin projects that never intend to deliver and are just a vehicle to increase the wealth of a few individuals before being abandoned and the parties involved move on to their next scheme.

Moderated threads should not just be used for the purpose of deleting posts that are critical of the project.  The mod function should be used to delete all those pathetic "to the moon"  "overtake bitcoin in months" and all the other obvious pump posts that do nothing but make intelligent potential investors just shake their heads and laugh.  When there is money involved being professional is extremely important.  I think that is why none of these altcoins are ever going to be taken seriously.  An outsider looking in only needs to read a couple pages to get the impression that it's nothing but a bunch of children playing with their hobby.  Go look on the bitcoin threads and you'll see intelligent discussion by adults.  Read through almost every altcoin thread and you'll get the impression that your interacting with a bunch of teenagers still going through puberty.
legendary
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May 12, 2015, 04:37:48 PM
from what we see in the media you can have the impression that nigeria is centuries behind a normal way of life... I mean, for me it is the same as Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria lol...

some countries in real big trouble and why bringing a monetary system to a place where other things are more important right now.

You might need to read up a little in your economics part to actually have a real impression, look at gdp growth to keep it simple if you don't like reading much and your ratter have the media give an impression of whats the world like.

http://knoema.com/nwnfkne/world-gdp-ranking-2015-data-and-charts
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