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Quote from: slackovic on October 14, 2021, 01:40:02 PM

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

You can call it as a worst campaign but it's one of the longest paying campaign for a reason. And users who are joining is one the reason why it's still running until now. While calling it as a scam is just an accusation until you provide a valid proof to back your accusation.

Most probably they make delays in the payment but also gave bonuses with next payment which is why members prefer to remain in the campaign aside from the longest running campaign on the forum.The manager is taking all the work with responsibility but he can't pay from his own pocket unless he receives funds from the owners of the campaign.But still the members need to take responsibility of their campaign that whether they want to join or not.

Oh, I see that some people here doesn't know the difference between scam and spam. I never said that Bitvest is a scam. OP did that for reasons that only he knows. I said that the campaign is "forcing" people to spam (not scam, but spam) the forum with posts that are written just to boost the post count.

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Quote from: lightlord on October 13, 2021, 01:28:28 AM

I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.

So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.

surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.

Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.

but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

Yes, it is almost 48 hours.
Hopefully, @lightlord can pay his participant at the right time and announce something related to the campaign.
When @lightlord says that he will send the payment in the next 48 hours, he will keep his promise and send it to them.
But hanging their participants without paying for a long time is not good for the campaign and participants.
So maybe there will be a discussion between @CB and @lightlord about the campaign.

lightlord buzzer beat the occasion as he already Paid the participants now meaning OP must lock this thread because bitvest never scammed anyone with complete proof in this forum or out.

here is the post of the owner just minutes ago with High Bonus

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O.P has is yet to reply or comment any of the questions which signifying that he has not serious allegation against Bitvest and even those are complaining against none payment of the signature campaign have all received their payment with bonus.

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Quote from: bL4nkcode on October 14, 2021, 02:01:44 PM

Quote from: slackovic on October 14, 2021, 01:40:02 PM

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

You can call it as a worst campaign but it's one of the longest paying campaign for a reason. And users who are joining is one the reason why it's still running until now. While calling it as a scam is just an accusation until you provide a valid proof to back your accusation.

Most probably they make delays in the payment but also gave bonuses with next payment which is why members prefer to remain in the campaign aside from the longest running campaign on the forum.The manager is taking all the work with responsibility but he can't pay from his own pocket unless he receives funds from the owners of the campaign.But still the members need to take responsibility of their campaign that whether they want to join or not.

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Quote from: slackovic on October 14, 2021, 01:40:02 PM

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

Its none of your matter if they pay low to the signature campaign participants. They have hired a good manager and i don't think anyone who spam can remain in that campaign. If you see any spam by those participants you can highlight them to the campaign manager and he may take steps if your observation is valid.

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Quote from: lightlord on October 13, 2021, 01:28:28 AM

I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.

So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.

surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.

Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.

but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

Yes, it is almost 48 hours.
Hopefully, @lightlord can pay his participant at the right time and announce something related to the campaign.
When @lightlord says that he will send the payment in the next 48 hours, he will keep his promise and send it to them.
But hanging their participants without paying for a long time is not good for the campaign and participants.
So maybe there will be a discussion between @CB and @lightlord about the campaign.

Quote from: MrcMrc on October 14, 2021, 11:19:45 PM

Bitvest is one of the popular gambling platforms on this forum, yes the owner of the site was absent on this forum for some days but have returned and made an announcement which shows the site is not a scam but the operator needs more hands to handle the site properly rather than making it a one-man show.

Besides that, Bitvest is already part of this forum for a long time ago.
And @lightlord always paid the participants, although he delays from bi-week into a month or more.
Hopefully, everything can be clear to all of his participants and all of them can get paid at the right time.

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Bitvest is one of the popular gambling platforms on this forum, yes the owner of the site was absent on this forum for some days but have returned and made an announcement which shows the site is not a scam but the operator needs more hands to handle the site properly rather than making it a one-man show.

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Usually gambling site have less few minutes withdrawing process but what your problem until withdraw delay, I think Bitvest still not scam and you need to get contact and talk your problem there, with this tread maybe have their team can see and solve your problem. Still have many advertisement about Bitvest gambling site on every where and on this forum still have this site and I think is indicate not scam.

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Quote from: Rengga Jati on October 14, 2021, 06:19:07 PM

Maybe he experienced a little obstacle on this platform but he only created an account and posted this accusation. After that, he didn't return. Really strange.

There's no scam exactly but OP is frustrated with the service which is understandable. I don't know how long OP has a problem now and we don't know if it's real and genuine. Don't know the status of how fast their withdrawal is on their gambling site but if we will be based on their signature campaign here, payments are not made even on a monthly basis if I heard it right. If those simple things can't be fixed, how more to the technical side especially the part of refilling the hot wallet.

Waiting for a long withdrawal is not convenient for a gambler. It's one of the factors that gamblers are looking into before using a gambling site.

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Quote from: harizen on October 14, 2021, 05:16:15 PM

I hope the case will be properly addressed. They are one of the long-time running sites in the crypto-gambling community and the reputation built since then shouldn't be damaged.

We do not know how the continuation of this case, and we also do not know the truth of this case.
If I read this is only related to the accusation, and the accusations are not necessarily the truth. Moreover, he did not provide evidence that was convincing. And the description of whether he had contacted them or got a response from them.
Maybe he experienced a little obstacle on this platform but he only created an account and posted this accusation. After that, he didn't return. Really strange.

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Quote from: harizen on October 14, 2021, 05:16:15 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on October 14, 2021, 05:08:17 PM

I don't think that it's a scam attempt but everyone is just waiting to get paid and for the refill of the hot wallet. It should be filled within a couple of hours from now.
We don't like the delay that has been too long and everyone is experiencing inconvenience at that point. That's why it's why many are disappointed from that point.

I have to agree with you that scam might not be the appropriate term and Bitvest won't likely be turned into that.

But if that kind of action wherein everything is always a long delay, either in their campaign or to their user's withdrawal at their site, that was already unprofessional. Delays are ok and can't be avoided but if that's always the case for long, it's not good anymore and something needs to be done.

I hope the case will be properly addressed. They are one of the long-time running sites in the crypto-gambling community and the reputation built since then shouldn't be damaged.

We're all speculating and waiting what will happen next when it's already properly addressed.
There must be a method to be used that will give back the confidence of those loyal players on their site about the problem of emptying of hot wallet when the owner is away.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on October 14, 2021, 05:08:17 PM

I don't think that it's a scam attempt but everyone is just waiting to get paid and for the refill of the hot wallet. It should be filled within a couple of hours from now.
We don't like the delay that has been too long and everyone is experiencing inconvenience at that point. That's why it's why many are disappointed from that point.

I have to agree with you that scam might not be the appropriate term and Bitvest won't likely be turned into that.

But if that kind of action wherein everything is always a long delay, either in their campaign or to their user's withdrawal at their site, that was already unprofessional. Delays are ok and can't be avoided but if that's always the case for long, it's not good anymore and something needs to be done.

I hope the case will be properly addressed. They are one of the long-time running sites in the crypto-gambling community and the reputation built since then shouldn't be damaged.

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Quote from: hello_good_sir on October 13, 2021, 06:45:24 PM

I actually agree with this one.

The behaviour of not having a hot wallet and allowing cash outs to be cancelled is definitely shady.

I doubt that you'll be "scammed outright" if you play though. Lightlord has been around a while, has always been less than professional, but yet has always paid out at the end of the day.

Everyone is hoping for the best for him and even if he's too busy in things that he does. He should maintain the best service that's been known to them including the emptiness of their hot wallet. And as they promote instant cashout then that's what they have to maintain and always have someone to refill their hot wallet from time to time or make a definitive way to refill it automatically from the players fund that have lost to them just recently so that it's just a cycle of winners fund for withdrawal and losers fund to refill.

Yeah exactly.

Almost ponzi like if they don't handle this properly so waters can get muddy pretty quickly.

I'm not sure whether this is genuinely a scam attempt though, I'm fairly sure it's just perpetual mismanagement of the entire business or a result of not putting in enough effort for the maintenance of the company imho.

I don't think that it's a scam attempt but everyone is just waiting to get paid and for the refill of the hot wallet. It should be filled within a couple of hours from now.
We don't like the delay that has been too long and everyone is experiencing inconvenience at that point. That's why it's why many are disappointed from that point.

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Quote from: bL4nkcode on October 14, 2021, 02:01:44 PM

Quote from: slackovic on October 14, 2021, 01:40:02 PM

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

You can call it as a worst campaign but it's one of the longest paying campaign for a reason. And users who are joining is one the reason why it's still running until now. While calling it as a scam is just an accusation until you provide a valid proof to back your accusation.

You're aware that scam is different from spam, right?
Do you really need a proof of that? You can easily compare the number of posts the users will write this week, while the campaign is paused.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on October 13, 2021, 06:49:49 PM

Quote from: hello_good_sir on October 13, 2021, 06:45:24 PM

I actually agree with this one.

The behaviour of not having a hot wallet and allowing cash outs to be cancelled is definitely shady.

I doubt that you'll be "scammed outright" if you play though. Lightlord has been around a while, has always been less than professional, but yet has always paid out at the end of the day.

Everyone is hoping for the best for him and even if he's too busy in things that he does. He should maintain the best service that's been known to them including the emptiness of their hot wallet. And as they promote instant cashout then that's what they have to maintain and always have someone to refill their hot wallet from time to time or make a definitive way to refill it automatically from the players fund that have lost to them just recently so that it's just a cycle of winners fund for withdrawal and losers fund to refill.

Yeah exactly.

Almost ponzi like if they don't handle this properly so waters can get muddy pretty quickly.

I'm not sure whether this is genuinely a scam attempt though, I'm fairly sure it's just perpetual mismanagement of the entire business or a result of not putting in enough effort for the maintenance of the company imho.

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Quote from: slackovic on October 14, 2021, 01:40:02 PM

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

You can call it as a worst campaign but it's one of the longest paying campaign for a reason. And users who are joining is one the reason why it's still running until now. While calling it as a scam is just an accusation until you provide a valid proof to back your accusation.

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Quote from: lightlord on October 13, 2021, 01:28:28 AM

I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.

So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.

surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.

Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.

but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

That's why the participants should think about this if they really want to continue their journey on that campaign or not since imagine how long the delay they already encountering right now and its little bit disturbing to see the owner is inactive. I know that he is a Donator but he should act professional towards his activities here, he have reputation to protect specially he is running a business on this forum.

I believe he has a reason for it. That campaign is a long time ago. That is the only campaign that has lasted this long and continues to amaze me. But, yes, this delay is inconvenient because you are working and not being paid. I'm hoping it'll be resolved soon. However, it is still up to the participant to decide whether or not to continue with the campaign. But for me its time to leave if ever you really in need of money .

Oh come on! Bitvest is the worst campaign I have been a part of. They are basically paying people to spam forum with load of useless messages. And the payment is so low I can't believe that there are still people willing to be in the campaign.

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Quote from: RokokGudangGaram on October 08, 2021, 06:45:40 AM

Probably there's a reason for all of that? Bitvest is one of the most known gambling site here, probably you should post some proofs, screenshots and other evidences rather than just ranting here since we don't understand you at all but if you believed that they scam you the scam accusation section is always open for you https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

You realise the avatar you have on right now at this moment, you are advertising for a known scammer? Yet you still choose to advertise for them. I wonder if you even believe your own writing on this forums.... Roll Eyes

Anyway, I wouldn't take advice on who to trust from people who willingly choose to support known scammers and liars. Although I do agree that anyone who wants to check out a project or website should do so in the scam accusation thread as well as at least a google search...

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Quote from: lightlord on October 13, 2021, 01:28:28 AM

I'll process the campaign asap with a bonus, no later than 48 hours from this post.

So, hopefully, all participants can get their payment soon, including you.
Maybe @lightlord has something urgent that makes him unable to go online and tells the manager but so far, the manager is in good handle the campaign.
Hopefully, everything will solve soon so they can continue their campaign as usual.

surely they will get all the pending payments but what is important in this now is that there must be a discussion about the funding meaning either let the Manager(CryptoprenuerBrainboss) to Hold the funding for campaign or use an Escrow like what he did in the past in which Lutpin is escrowing the funds for the whole campaign.

Indeed. That is the only way for the members to have the time to get paid just in time.
If he can do what @Lutpin did before, I think that helps the participants get payment, even if @lightlord is not online.
Hopefully, there will be a change for the campaign and everything will be okay and the participants can continue to promote the site like the other members.
The manager is now very good at handling both campaigns, so I am sure that the situation will still be under his control.
+1 for CryptoprenuerBrainboss.

but he says 48 hours and now it has been 28 hours passed yet no update , The last time He said 48 hours will be processed it took Him more than 96 hours to pay the participants with a "TOO LITTLE BONUS" I don't know if @lightlord is really a professional person because he cannot even Hold with his words .
this made me think if he really pay respect to the people who works with him or he just treated them as a slave to work for him and only get what they deserve to His own time and decision and nothing more to demand .

That's why the participants should think about this if they really want to continue their journey on that campaign or not since imagine how long the delay they already encountering right now and its little bit disturbing to see the owner is inactive. I know that he is a Donator but he should act professional towards his activities here, he have reputation to protect specially he is running a business on this forum.

I believe he has a reason for it. That campaign is a long time ago. That is the only campaign that has lasted this long and continues to amaze me. But, yes, this delay is inconvenient because you are working and not being paid. I'm hoping it'll be resolved soon. However, it is still up to the participant to decide whether or not to continue with the campaign. But for me its time to leave if ever you really in need of money .

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Quote from: Xanaxass on October 08, 2021, 06:14:20 AM

A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

Your title is very misleading and it spreads FUD. Where are your evidences that bitvest is indeed a scam? Do you have any proof that they really deceived and scammed you? In what way? Did they steal anything from you? Did your account lose money? You see, the terms of service of every platform changes without prior notice. Maybe you had a violation that cause your account to be banned by the moderators. If they weren't able to detect unusual activities from your account, why would they waste their time on you? Are you the only user accessing and playing it to the point they would invest so much time and attention to you?

I suggest, instead of complaining here without dropping evidences, you gather it and show it here so that we can give more appropriate advices to you. It would really be hard to talk and badmouth bitvest without counter checking whether what you stated are true. In fact, what you have written were just merely rants because it has no supporting documents.

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