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Quote from: sujonali1819 on October 08, 2021, 12:14:46 PM

First of all if you are scammed by them then You can create a scam accusation against them in Scam Accusation section with valid proofs.

What you are actually talking about? I mean what do you mean that their Hot wallet is empty? That means you could not withdraw your money ? Or they refused your withdrawal? Yes, it's true that If people lose they will earn. And this is normal. So what is actually wrong here? They refused your withdrawal and forced you to play and lose?

I guess it is the same issue as what experienced by some other players:

Quote from: psycodad on August 31, 2021, 03:24:19 AM

I am very relieved to report that I have now received all pending withdrawals after 19days.

Quote from: cjmoles on July 30, 2021, 09:59:29 PM

Fill the hot wallets -> Where are you?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/i-need-admin-of-bitvest-to-come-here-and-explain-not-paying-my-winning-5359651

That are some other users who are also complaining about empty hot wallet in Bitvest. I look into those cases deeper and I can see that when the hot wallet is empty, withdrawal is not processed and players get a notification like in below image:

Image taken from cjmoles post here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57617797

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Quote from: tulusikhlas on October 08, 2021, 03:32:38 PM

You with a new account then complain it's quite reasonable. Are you complaining that your wallet at the casino is not fully filled in the time you expected?
I don't know for sure how you started the casino to have serious problems. Complaints but you didn't show us any display as proof. Can you drop evidence to substantiate the problem you are currently facing?

One doesn't have to be a newbie before they can complain, you are here as a high rank member simply because you register before him, anyone can complain as long as I they have problems with service since they are always active on this forum.

What I don't understand with OP is he refuse to really point out his main problem with the casino, if the casino is out of funds for instant withdrawal, you should channel the problem to customers service provider, they will surely fixed it and I'm sure that you also read there terms and conditions before making a sign up.

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You with a new account then complain it's quite reasonable. Are you complaining that your wallet at the casino is not fully filled in the time you expected?
I don't know for sure how you started the casino to have serious problems. Complaints but you didn't show us any display as proof. Can you drop evidence to substantiate the problem you are currently facing?

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Quote from: Sterbens on October 08, 2021, 02:39:24 PM

My comment to you is: from the title and the text content that is tried and disclosed does not in any way reflect any authentic evidence of how Bitvest casino is said to have committed fraudulent acts against any of the users, especially you.

However, if this really makes you feel cheated, you can attach all the evidence in the fraud thread (but don't forget that all these accusations have valid and accountable evidence) Because this concerns the reputation of the gambling casino that has been around for so long. long and became quite famous. Then suddenly you come in with no proof and spit out the headline: Bitvest is a scam

I think it's simple:
- If you feel cheated, have you clarified with the casino in question?
- If you feel cheated, can we get proof that every submission you make is attached to the thread?

If you don't include those two points, then this is just an accusation without evidence. Lol

From what I've noticed, the OP only complains about the delayed withdrawal problem because the Bitvest hot wallet hasn't been filled yet
but what makes the OP look stupid is the title of the thread he made as if he had been scammed by bitvest

surely in a few days he will make a statement sorry for the misunderstanding he made and lock this topic

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My comment to you is: from the title and the text content that is tried and disclosed does not in any way reflect any authentic evidence of how Bitvest casino is said to have committed fraudulent acts against any of the users, especially you.

However, if this really makes you feel cheated, you can attach all the evidence in the fraud thread (but don't forget that all these accusations have valid and accountable evidence) Because this concerns the reputation of the gambling casino that has been around for so long. long and became quite famous. Then suddenly you come in with no proof and spit out the headline: Bitvest is a scam

I think it's simple:
- If you feel cheated, have you clarified with the casino in question?
- If you feel cheated, can we get proof that every submission you make is attached to the thread?

If you don't include those two points, then this is just an accusation without evidence. Lol

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on October 08, 2021, 12:56:30 PM

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 08, 2021, 11:40:15 AM

Is lightlord also the owner of Bitvest?

if you are eager to withdraw then you shouldn't gamble and waited for the right time they fill the hot wallet.

Maybe this is the main reason of creating this thread. Sometime some unexpected error come to in-front. This is normal for everywhere. when the withdraw was rejected he tried to play more to pass some time or win more but at the end he/she was lost his money. This is one of the biggest mistake in gambling. when you have profit either big or less always it should be secured imo.

That likely might happened to him. We can't really expect that if we gamble and we're hoping to withdraw, it'll stay. But in this case, there's a known problem for bitvest that their hot wallet hasn't been filled and hasn't been addressed yet but it's a known casino and they won't scam anyone. The term that's correct is delayed but not scammed if he has a pending withdrawal.

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Do you have proves to back your claims I used Bitvest sometimes back and did not experience any of these problems may be there have changed their operations recently? I will advise you to post your complaint in the main thread before making an accusation thread.

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I don't understand what the OP meant in this thread. He seemed to have misconceived the thread. Regarding the Bitvest casino so far I have played there and there is nothing that smells of fraud. If you have proof, it would be better if it was validly included. Don't make accusations that have supporting evidence.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on October 08, 2021, 12:14:46 PM

So what is actually wrong here?

from what I understand OP is complaining that Bitvest is not providing good service for him, he should change site if he thinks Bitvest is not providing good service. maybe this post of his is to alert people. at last the owner of Bitvest will be able to come and explain what is happening if all that the OP said is really true or not. but one thing is clear: Bitvest is not a scam, although from what I understand OP wanted the payments to be instant, I don't use Bitvest so I can't confirm whether the payments are instant or not.

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Quote from: Xanaxass on October 08, 2021, 06:14:20 AM

A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

ok, again and again strange people appear here 'lol'

without proof you can't claim anything, besides that bitvest is one of the old crypto gambling sites with a good reputation, if you are upset because you lost at bitvest then come back to play tomorrow.

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Quote from: Xanaxass on October 08, 2021, 06:14:20 AM

A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

Hi, before you post any accusation, make sure that you collate your evidence against the project. Posting an accusation without substantiating any proof will not hold any water. In addition, please post this thread accordingly under the right board.

Though there may have been some accusations against something, always remember to follow it up with all the proof/evidences you have. Mere claiming that a website is a scam due to some irregularities will not be heeded. Remember that the internet is a tangled web where one information is spread easily to another, thereby causing the destruction of the image of such website.

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Quote from: blockman on October 08, 2021, 12:38:57 PM

Quote from: danherbias07 on October 08, 2021, 11:40:15 AM

Is lightlord also the owner of Bitvest?

if you are eager to withdraw then you shouldn't gamble and waited for the right time they fill the hot wallet.

Maybe this is the main reason of creating this thread. Sometime some unexpected error come to in-front. This is normal for everywhere. when the withdraw was rejected he tried to play more to pass some time or win more but at the end he/she was lost his money. This is one of the biggest mistake in gambling. when you have profit either big or less always it should be secured imo.

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Quote from: Zilon on October 08, 2021, 12:05:48 PM

You should be specific about how much of your coin you have in your hot wallet and what are the criteria for withdrawal you should also upload a proof to your claims you don't just come in here to instigate negative reputation against one of the well known online casinos and you expect to get people believe you without evidence it's not possible

i guess he have a lot of cryptos to withdraw because someone says that small withdrawals are still possible .
even without a proof i think im going to believe in what op said ( only for the hot wallet issue and not about the chat and others ) because i also read the same issue before in bitvest but they shouldnt be alarmed because the wallets are going to get refilled once lightlord goes back as we all know that he is such a busy person especially now that he isnt active for days .

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 08, 2021, 11:40:15 AM

Is lightlord also the owner of Bitvest?

Yes, both 777coin and bitvest.
@OP. I believe there's really an issue about their hot wallets but if you are eager to withdraw then you shouldn't gamble and waited for the right time they fill the hot wallet. And if you don't like the chat of their mods and banned you within a few minutes, there's probably a reason behind it and maybe you ranted on them and improperly addressed your problem.

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Is this a scam accusation or your personal review about the gambling site?

I think it's not necessary to create a thread anymore, they have an ANN thread (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitvestio-win-by-play-invest-bet-contest-1221154), you can post on their thread and it will not be deleted since the thread is not moderated, if you do that, you can help them by giving your honest feedback, and they might improve their service as they have been here for many years already.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 08, 2021, 11:40:15 AM

Is lightlord also the owner of Bitvest?

Yes, I believe he still is.

Quote from: danherbias07 on October 08, 2021, 11:40:15 AM

With this long running gambling site, I don't think a scam will happen even until now. Let's be fair and wait for further announcements before accusations.

OP is probably frustrated by the delay in the withdrawal and he gambled his balance before the withdrawal was processed. So I wouldn't call this a scam just yet.
Although, some members in Bitvest's thread have complained about waiting up to a week for their funds, which is not good for any casino, and you can understand their frustration. I don't know what Lightlord is doing in real life, but a little more engagement about his gambling platforms would probably benefit everyone.

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It seems like you had a bad experience with the site that you have mentioned but to make things fair Op, you should have posted proof or explained specifically about what happened. You should have elaborated your case so everybody would have enlightenment. It's hard to accuse a site without proving it.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on October 08, 2021, 11:40:15 AM

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Pandemic is not a reason, you can "WFH" (Work from home).

BTW, anyone who doesn't believe an empty hot wallet tries to see a statement from @panjul07. I also check some issue case against "Bitvest" seem like the empty hot wallet problem is true. For a casino or exchange, this kind of problem is because with gambling you have psychology effect to make you keep playing. Instant cashout is needed to avoid we're betting again + losing all money or the money you win.

But @OP is also wrong to put "scam" word into the title since there is no single proof scamming anyone, change the word to "bad service" would be appropriate. Sometimes people always using "scam" word while they have some problem.

Quote from: sujonali1819 on October 08, 2021, 12:14:46 PM

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Hot wallet empty, can't process your withdraw so the withdraw probably got rejected.

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First of all if you are scammed by them then You can create a scam accusation against them in Scam Accusation section with valid proofs.

What you are actually talking about? I mean what do you mean that their Hot wallet is empty? That means you could not withdraw your money ? Or they refused your withdrawal? Yes, it's true that If people lose they will earn. And this is normal. So what is actually wrong here? They refused your withdrawal and forced you to play and lose?

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You should be specific about how much of your coin you have in your hot wallet and what are the criteria for withdrawal you should also upload a proof to your claims you don't just come in here to instigate negative reputation against one of the well known online casinos and you expect to get people believe you without evidence it's not possible

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