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Quote from: Fortify on October 10, 2021, 05:22:18 PM

Quote from: Xanaxass on October 08, 2021, 06:14:20 AM

A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

That's definitely a big red flag if your money vanishes and is unrecoverable before you've even played any games. There are so many reliable and high quality bitcoin casinos out there, it is simply shocking if anyone continues to deposit in such a place. I guess they are relying on people impressed by the flashy design and functionality, then lose their business after the first failed cash out. You'd be surprised how many times people will deposit, before getting bored and then failing to extract the small amount they might have left over. It's a bit of a hit and run strategy, but there are more fools born every day. Sadly the anonymity that drives many of these sites will leave you totally exposed and without a chance of getting your money back if things go badly.

That does not seem to me to be what the OP is describing, it seems to me that at some point he wanted to withdraw his coins and the hot wallet was empty so he had to wait until it was filled again and then he kept gambling and busted his account and then the hot wallet was filled again but now he could not withdraw as he had already lost his money, I will say it again to me he is not describing a scam but rather a bad service, and while it can be frustrating and I understand why he is mad he is doing himself no favors by making such bold accusations.

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This is not the right place for the OP, if he is actually a victim then scam accusations section is the place to go with all the proof and already the discussion regarding this issue is going on the reputation section so no need to discuss the same thing on multiple threads.

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Quote from: Reatim on October 12, 2021, 12:45:31 AM

well Finally @lightlord got online today though not longer as got offline back after an hour

Hope He'll go active to answer everything from this kind of accusation and also to pay His campaign participants for more than 2 months of due.

but the only problem i see is that His account already Painted in red things that may cause something different from His decisions .

The red paint can turn neutral once he is able to send the fees and disprove scam. It will be a waste to just throw all the hard work he had done for years building a reputation for that 2 casinos. Its been discussed that he was sick, it should explain his absense. Its good to hear his side of story to clear it up.

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Well @op, its a free world we all know, but this does not mean we go about accusing a business of fraud without proof, accusation without evidence or proof are one of the things this forum and its members frown at so well.
If Bitvest have scammed you in any way, my advice is that you proof it, this is the only way you can be taken seriously here, and again, please do well to move this thread to the scam accusation section cus thats where this kind of topic belongs.

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Quote from: Reatim on October 12, 2021, 12:45:31 AM

but the only problem i see is that His account already Painted in red things that may cause something different from His decisions .

Yes the negative trust may influence his decision but I think he will do the best for his own reputation unless he does not care about it anymore. Hopefully all will be resolved soon and he can continue the business with a better service than before. He needs to have some people around to help him in managing his business.

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Quote from: Poker Player on October 11, 2021, 09:43:51 AM

Quote from: tippytoes on October 10, 2021, 06:58:33 PM

The CM of bitvest and 777coin has already posted on their campaign thread. And as far as the news reached to him, lightlord is sick.

Quote from: W Jr. on October 11, 2021, 03:01:06 AM

I read in some places that lightlord is sick and that's why he can't enter the forum. If he is really sick, I wish him a speedy recovery.

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 11, 2021, 03:01:06 AM

I read in some places that lightlord is sick and that's why he can't enter the forum. If he is really sick, I wish him a speedy recovery. He hasn't logged into the forum since Sept 26. It's a serious illness that he probably didn't even have a chance to simply enter the forum and make a statement. This is a sad situation for people who have not received payment for about 10 weeks. I hope he gets over his illness soon and makes the payments.

true or not lightlord is sick, I always hope for the best for him
10 weeks is quite a long time. For the participants of the lightlord signature campaign, I hope they will be patient and remain confident that their hard work will be paid off

If he is really sick, which is what it looks like, I wish him well, but there are many of you, who take for granted the fact that he is sick to justify what is happening with the money.

Two businesses that move so much money plus their advertising campaigns cannot depend on a single person, that if he suddenly dies or gets sick, there is no one else who has access to the funds and everything is paralyzed.

I play poker, in fiat rooms, and even in the smallest fiat rooms this could not happen, because if the owner or manager gets sick, there is always someone appointed to keep the business going.

Quote from: YOSHIE on October 11, 2021, 09:45:48 AM

it's impossible for a gambling site to be run by one person,

Well, it seems that as far as money is concerned, this is the case.

Even if it is managed by a single person for now, lightlord will definitely do what you say after this situation. Several people must have this information in order to provide alternative access and business continuity. I understand him, obviously he can't trust people. However, if a negative situation occurs -like now- all people will be victims. I saw it's active today I hope it fixes all the problems.

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Quote from: Xanaxass on October 08, 2021, 06:14:20 AM

A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

who are you? what is your case against Bitvest? why are you making this BS thread but never goes back online to fulfil your case?

maybe you are the one who is Bored in life lol.

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Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

What promo? you know what? there are no complete details brings here and you are only making this case posting .

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well Finally @lightlord got online today though not longer as got offline back after an hour

Hope He'll go active to answer everything from this kind of accusation and also to pay His campaign participants for more than 2 months of due.

but the only problem i see is that His account already Painted in red things that may cause something different from His decisions .

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Quote from: Oceat on October 11, 2021, 06:42:35 PM

It seems that there's a problem inside of the team plus the CM of these two big old gambling sites is probably sick.

It is not the CM instead the OWNER in which having sickness now , lightlord specifically.

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And the sudden appearance of complaints almost everywhere about these gambling sites is alarming but I trust these sites since they were here for a long time. And I think if the CM would come and explain everything that would be helpful but for now let's just wait for his fast recovery.

wait appearance everywhere? please specify exactly which places are there? because i can see only in Signature thread in the past, and then in their ANN thread(Normal because that is the place where to contact the team , and there are some in gambling section , and now the new one is reputation section.

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And for the OP, and other complainants, I suggest going straight to their contact support if you have any problem and don't just post any negative comments about them if you don't have any solid evidence yet to present.

that is the thing , because OP does not even show anything here but only a direct accusation .

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Saying it's easy, if it's really proven that was a scam, it should be followed up immediately before more people enter and get scammed again.
The world of gambling is not for fraud, but for having fun and getting lots of opportunities to make a profit, and it is our right to report the site cheating in it.
I've been to BV, but I haven't seen that it's really a scam place, it's just that betting with the token has a very small chance of winning.

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It seems that there's a problem inside of the team plus the CM of these two big old gambling sites is probably sick. And the sudden appearance of complaints almost everywhere about these gambling sites is alarming but I trust these sites since they were here for a long time. And I think if the CM would come and explain everything that would be helpful but for now let's just wait for his fast recovery.

And for the OP, and other complainants, I suggest going straight to their contact support if you have any problem and don't just post any negative comments about them if you don't have any solid evidence yet to present.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on October 11, 2021, 05:29:18 PM

Quote from: coupable on October 11, 2021, 02:32:48 PM

Quote from: W Jr. on October 11, 2021, 03:01:06 AM

I read in some places that lightlord is sick and that's why he can't enter the forum. If he is really sick, I wish him a speedy recovery. He hasn't logged into the forum since Sept 26. It's a serious illness that he probably didn't even have a chance to simply enter the forum and make a statement. This is a sad situation for people who have not received payment for about 10 weeks. I hope he gets over his illness soon and makes the payments.

This can explain the delay in weekly paiement for signature campaign participants [Bitvest,777Coin] but no one has confirmed that the illnes of LightLord is the reason for the hotwallet to remain empty for a long time. However, LightLord hasn't logged into the forum since September 26 while signature campaign participants have a payment delay since about 10 weeks. This should somehow rise some Flags, but far to call it as a confirmd scam.
I see more complaints about delayed withdrawals in their campaign ANN threads. It's a little bit scary how community is waiting for a single person to come back and solve everything, i thought the casinos are running with full team and not managed by a single person .

Yes, it's really alarming, especially for those campaign participants who have yet to get their payment. I think that it's already a significant red flag, especially for signature campaign participants and gamblers, because money is involved here and there hasn't been a solution for a week. I propose looking for another worthwhile platform that has no payment troubles and will provide you with assurance and a reputable platform.

Quote from: RILWAN on October 11, 2021, 02:48:41 AM

The thread starter was online two days ago and did not reply to any of the comments, this goes to show clearly how this thread was made to throw bitvest and a new account accusing a well-known gambling site of scam is quite unfortunate and should not be taken serious.

Even if the OP is a newbie, we have no right to invalidate this unless it is proven that the statement is incorrect; nonetheless, everyone has learned that there are also issues in the campaign itself, thus this gambling platform is very dangerous right now.

You seem to be more concerned by the payment of their signature campaign than the ability for gamblers to withdraw and get back their own funds, that's a little bit weird but I guess you're not a gambler but just a signature campaign poster. Then I suggest you to open a thread about the campaigns from gambling sites, it could be interesting to speak about those campaigns somewhere.

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Quote from: coupable on October 11, 2021, 02:32:48 PM

Quote from: W Jr. on October 11, 2021, 03:01:06 AM

I read in some places that lightlord is sick and that's why he can't enter the forum. If he is really sick, I wish him a speedy recovery. He hasn't logged into the forum since Sept 26. It's a serious illness that he probably didn't even have a chance to simply enter the forum and make a statement. This is a sad situation for people who have not received payment for about 10 weeks. I hope he gets over his illness soon and makes the payments.

This can explain the delay in weekly paiement for signature campaign participants [Bitvest,777Coin] but no one has confirmed that the illnes of LightLord is the reason for the hotwallet to remain empty for a long time. However, LightLord hasn't logged into the forum since September 26 while signature campaign participants have a payment delay since about 10 weeks. This should somehow rise some Flags, but far to call it as a confirmd scam.
I see more complaints about delayed withdrawals in their campaign ANN threads. It's a little bit scary how community is waiting for a single person to come back and solve everything, i thought the casinos are running with full team and not managed by a single person .

Yes, it's really alarming, especially for those campaign participants who have yet to get their payment. I think that it's already a significant red flag, especially for signature campaign participants and gamblers, because money is involved here and there hasn't been a solution for a week. I propose looking for another worthwhile platform that has no payment troubles and will provide you with assurance and a reputable platform.

Quote from: RILWAN on October 11, 2021, 02:48:41 AM

The thread starter was online two days ago and did not reply to any of the comments, this goes to show clearly how this thread was made to throw bitvest and a new account accusing a well-known gambling site of scam is quite unfortunate and should not be taken serious.

Even if the OP is a newbie, we have no right to invalidate this unless it is proven that the statement is incorrect; nonetheless, everyone has learned that there are also issues in the campaign itself, thus this gambling platform is very dangerous right now.

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Quote from: nurilham on October 11, 2021, 11:01:33 AM

if you don't like the platform then leave it, as simple like that. We have the choice to choose a trusted gambling site or not. There are many gambling situations and we must be more careful in choosing them. if you have proof that this is a scam then you can complain it and it will help others too. Of course it's frustrating if we lose money but we also have to know what the cause is. I don't know what is said is true or not about fraud but I just want to say that this is the world of gambling so be more careful and be aware of whatever it is.

The situation could be different in other gamblers where their money are stuck on the casino and despite they want to leave, they just can't because there's still the amount that they want to withdraw. But on this situation, I think it's needed also some understanding on both ends, while the hot wallet hasn't been refilled due to some problem by knowing the owner is sick. Someone who's affected of it has to wait but we don't know if people who are affected by it is also facing another problem that's requiring him that money.

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Quote from: CaVO32 on October 11, 2021, 01:39:23 PM

These days, we have a lot of choices now. Even in this forum alone, there are so many reputable and new casinos where you can play. But on the case of this casino, as it has been conveyed, the owner is sick. So wishing him to get well soon. And once he gets back, he should divide some of his tasks to other staffs so his businesses will not be paralyzed when he can't attend with it. And I believe it is not good management if only one person can handle these things. Talking about precautionary measures.

It's not that there are many other reputable casinos and bookies out there, it's just a matter of eliminating those that are unfair from the market.
The accusation of fraud just because someone has a delayed payment is way too much and even if such situations do occur, they should be cleared up in a calm way and not by creating scam accusations.

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Quote from: W Jr. on October 11, 2021, 03:01:06 AM

I read in some places that lightlord is sick and that's why he can't enter the forum. If he is really sick, I wish him a speedy recovery. He hasn't logged into the forum since Sept 26. It's a serious illness that he probably didn't even have a chance to simply enter the forum and make a statement. This is a sad situation for people who have not received payment for about 10 weeks. I hope he gets over his illness soon and makes the payments.

This can explain the delay in weekly paiement for signature campaign participants [Bitvest,777Coin] but no one has confirmed that the illnes of LightLord is the reason for the hotwallet to remain empty for a long time. However, LightLord hasn't logged into the forum since September 26 while signature campaign participants have a payment delay since about 10 weeks. This should somehow rise some Flags, but far to call it as a confirmd scam.
I see more complaints about delayed withdrawals in their campaign ANN threads. It's a little bit scary how community is waiting for a single person to come back and solve everything, i thought the casinos are running with full team and not managed by a single person .

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Quote from: nurilham on October 11, 2021, 11:01:33 AM

if you don't like the platform then leave it, as simple like that. We have the choice to choose a trusted gambling site or not. There are many gambling situations and we must be more careful in choosing them. if you have proof that this is a scam then you can complain it and it will help others too. Of course it's frustrating if we lose money but we also have to know what the cause is. I don't know what is said is true or not about fraud but I just want to say that this is the world of gambling so be more careful and be aware of whatever it is.

These days, we have a lot of choices now. Even in this forum alone, there are so many reputable and new casinos where you can play. But on the case of this casino, as it has been conveyed, the owner is sick. So wishing him to get well soon. And once he gets back, he should divide some of his tasks to other staffs so his businesses will not be paralyzed when he can't attend with it. And I believe it is not good management if only one person can handle these things. Talking about precautionary measures.

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Quote from: sovie on October 11, 2021, 11:27:35 AM

Quote from: Xanaxass on October 08, 2021, 06:14:20 AM

A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

The fact that the hot wallet is being emptied is not a scam, it is a sign of caution. Casinos regularly empty their hot wallet for security reasons.
It is true that the term "instant payout" should be verified in this situation, but surely the scam accusation is misused here.

It would be really good to show the proof / evidence of what has gone wrong. Yes what you say, might have taken place but since Bitvest is being a well known for its good reputation, its better to show what you are saying is right. At times it happens to many as there might be few technical errors or issues from their end happened accidentally. Its better to contact them and solve your issues instead of seeking the same from somewhere else.

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Quote from: Xanaxass on October 08, 2021, 06:14:20 AM

A "instant cashout" casino where the hotwallet is ALWAYS empty. At a certain point, call it what it is, they're choosing to leave the hot wallet empty. It's not as if an unexpected surge of cash outs is the problem.
But don't worry, you can still play your crypto in the meantime! Hot wallet will be filled as soon as you bust.
If you get bored, don't forget to come to chat and have one of the mods repeatedly literally harrass you, including specifically banning you for 3 minutes then unbanning you (because they weren't justified to begin with) just so you won't get rain anymore ("the same person shouldn't be getting top spot every rain")

Oh and promo? That doesn't even exist anymore.

The fact that the hot wallet is being emptied is not a scam, it is a sign of caution. Casinos regularly empty their hot wallet for security reasons.
It is true that the term "instant payout" should be verified in this situation, but surely the scam accusation is misused here.

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if you don't like the platform then leave it, as simple like that. We have the choice to choose a trusted gambling site or not. There are many gambling situations and we must be more careful in choosing them. if you have proof that this is a scam then you can complain it and it will help others too. Of course it's frustrating if we lose money but we also have to know what the cause is. I don't know what is said is true or not about fraud but I just want to say that this is the world of gambling so be more careful and be aware of whatever it is.

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