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Quote from: ryzaadit on October 27, 2023, 09:51:54 AM

The event wheel still a bad result.

Until now still give me a reward Rp.5 ~XD atleast give me Rp.88 to give the excited, damn seing these recent winners makes me envy. Do people already not playing on BK8 ? or just me and @roycilik who are trying the wheel ?.

Perhaps the wheel works like most other wheel in other casinos where the more you deposit or the more you wager will give you better chance to win bigger reward.
I do not participate in this wheel and I have to be honest that I do not play in bk8 since long time ago, I'm gambling in casinos where I see there is a good promotion that may give me better chance to make additional money such as contest.
Maybe there are some other users from this forum who are still playing in bk8 but they do not share their experience due to privacy reason.

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The event wheel still a bad result.

Until now still give me a reward Rp.5 ~XD atleast give me Rp.88 to give the excited, damn seing these recent winners makes me envy. Do people already not playing on BK8 ? or just me and @roycilik who are trying the wheel ?.

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hmph..

Quote from: delfastTions on October 27, 2023, 02:17:00 AM

But BK8 relatively recently introduced the possibility of using cryptocurrencies, probably only about 3 years ago? So it’s interesting to find out what was the basis for such an expansion of their business. As I think, cryptopayments in BK8’s work take up a small part of their total financial flows. Still, the majority of pl ayers use fiat money, local currencies.
Also, the use of crypto is associated with quite great difficulties due to the unclear and contradictory local legislation of the jurisdiction in which the casino operates.

Business expansion is beyond my knowledge and I don't really understand why BK8 entered this market. but one thing I know based on business in general. The service expansion carried out by the company is to get new users with new target user segments. In this case, BK8 targets is crypto gamblers or gamblers who are more likely to use crypto for deposits and withdrawals. Even if there are only 10% from total users, it is a facility that needs to be maintained, because this expansion will produce win-win solutions for users and for BK8 it definitely has a positive growth forecast so it has been maintained so far.

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Quote from: masulum on October 26, 2023, 07:20:10 AM

On the other hand as your response i totally agree, in corporate needs, apart from legal matters, KYC is needed for personalized marketing, product offerings and sales process. With systems such as CRM, ERP, automation and so on that are connected to marketing and sales systems, KYC is needed to be able to send offers to the right customers. This is to minimize errors in providing programs and benefits to users. And this applies not only to casinos, but to all companies.

This probably helps the casino itself conduct personalized marketing.
This seems to be true.

But BK8 relatively recently introduced the possibility of using cryptocurrencies, probably only about 3 years ago? So it’s interesting to find out what was the basis for such an expansion of their business. As I think, cryptopayments in BK8’s work take up a small part of their total financial flows. Still, the majority of pl ayers use fiat money, local currencies.
Also, the use of crypto is associated with quite great difficulties due to the unclear and contradictory local legislation of the jurisdiction in which the casino operates.

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Quote from: livingfree on October 26, 2023, 09:35:37 AM

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They have (KYC)

However, they have a basic (KYC) like only phone-number. In-case they need somethings like ID/other document they will have right to ask with you. KYC things with ID or document is always happening.

So, always get ready.

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Quote from: masulum on October 26, 2023, 07:20:10 AM

This is to minimize errors in providing programs and benefits to users. And this applies not only to casinos, but to all companies.

I guess BK8 and other casinos don't really want to ask their customers to go through with KYC but with legality speaking and all points mentioned by you guys are on point. I'm not here to disagree or argue and I'd agree with most things that you've said.

As much as they want all of us not go through with it, they have no option too since they're a registered trademark and they're just following laws where they operate and at same time, it's a pressure on them as well.

And with the quote of what masulum said, IMO that's what we can think of one of the good things why it's required on their end. To determine whom they're going to send offers, bonuses, etc. specifically based on the data that's sent to them by their users.

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By the way.

Does anyone have some luck? on the wheel-spin. Shit, all of my spin only (5 IDR) and the only person who got lucky enough is @roycilik with 88 IDR. I see the history prize, each day we always have some people who win the special-prize and (Iphone).

Crazy to see that, because we don't know the maximum amount of the prize (Special Prize & Iphone).

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Quote from: Bitinity on October 26, 2023, 06:55:01 AM

-snip- When it comes to transaction between person to company or vice versa, while the company is licensed or regulated then there must be a term that cant be avoided by the company. We as customers of the company should follow the terms, if we cant follow it then simply we should not use it.

KYC, at BK8 is actually not really restricted, because you can withdraw large amounts of money from winnings ( i believe you've already experienced it), without having to provide personal identity, As long as the winnings are purely from deposits and games that are not suspicious, with email and cellphone number, BK8 can accept withdrawal requests.

On the other hand as your response i totally agree, in corporate needs, apart from legal matters, KYC is needed for personalized marketing, product offerings and sales process. With systems such as CRM, ERP, automation and so on that are connected to marketing and sales systems, KYC is needed to be able to send offers to the right customers. This is to minimize errors in providing programs and benefits to users. And this applies not only to casinos, but to all companies.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 18, 2023, 06:16:23 AM

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Dude, did you know?

The casino you are advertiser is required (KYC) go look their term & condition. Any casino-site who are required you regitser to their site is always 99% have KYC-policy (they always noted you, in-some condition). You want to really without KYC, you should go to decentralized casino while everything is on-chain (most the time is on-chain dice or jackpot with RTP).
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You can write about, you don't like KYC in casino. But the reality they can ask you KYC, like it or not.

Yeah, it’s all clear that you write about 99% KYC.

Let's take a philosophical approach to the issue.
Why should players play using cryptocurrencies and not remain anonymous? Wouldn't it be easier for them to just use $ or local currencies? In my opinion it’s simpler and more reliable.
Only people who have large fortunes in cryptocurrency can place serious bets in casinos. But such players do not need to lose anonymity at all. So we have an obvious contradiction. Either big bets, identity verification and fiat, or small bets, cryptocurrency and anonymity. And if the game involves cryptocurrency, identity verification and large bets, then such actions by whales and wealthy crypto owners are simply stupid.

The question is, was crypto created for people to gamble anonymously? I dont think so, afaik crypto was created as an anonymous peer to peer payment gateway which I understand it as payment between a person to other person not a person to a company. When it comes to transaction between person to company or vice versa, while the company is licensed or regulated then there must be a term that cant be avoided by the company. We as customers of the company should follow the terms, if we cant follow it then simply we should not use it.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 26, 2023, 05:57:57 AM

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First: It's a legal issue.
Second: It's a business scheme.
Third: Cryptocurrency, It's being used for payment-gateway only. It's not always about privacy, why casino choose crypto ? It's because the transaction can be do anymore and anytime (Not it's because privacy).

Like I said, you like it or not. KYC is always being implemented on any casino with website-register, If you care about (KYC) so much and anonymity why played on casino who required (KYC) + Signature Casino with KYC ?

Final response and move on.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on October 22, 2023, 02:40:28 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on October 18, 2023, 06:16:23 AM

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Dude, did you know?

The casino you are advertiser is required (KYC) go look their term & condition. Any casino-site who are required you regitser to their site is always 99% have KYC-policy (they always noted you, in-some condition). You want to really without KYC, you should go to decentralized casino while everything is on-chain (most the time is on-chain dice or jackpot with RTP).
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You can write about, you don't like KYC in casino. But the reality they can ask you KYC, like it or not.

Yeah, it’s all clear that you write about 99% KYC.

Let's take a philosophical approach to the issue.
Why should players play using cryptocurrencies and not remain anonymous? Wouldn't it be easier for them to just use $ or local currencies? In my opinion it’s simpler and more reliable.
Only people who have large fortunes in cryptocurrency can place serious bets in casinos. But such players do not need to lose anonymity at all. So we have an obvious contradiction. Either big bets, identity verification and fiat, or small bets, cryptocurrency and anonymity. And if the game involves cryptocurrency, identity verification and large bets, then such actions by whales and wealthy crypto owners are simply stupid.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 18, 2023, 06:16:23 AM

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Dude, did you know?

The casino you are advertiser is required (KYC) go look their term & condition. Any casino-site who are required you regitser to their site is always 99% have KYC-policy (they always noted you, in-some condition). You want to really without KYC, you should go to decentralized casino while everything is on-chain (most the time is on-chain dice or jackpot with RTP).
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You can write about, you don't like KYC in casino. But the reality they can ask you KYC, like it or not.

Quote from: roycilik on October 18, 2023, 02:48:57 PM

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Keep going, maybe you can get special prize ~XD

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Quote from: ryzaadit on October 10, 2023, 02:56:53 PM

Anway guys, did you get a good prize from wheel ? 10x still nothing ~XD only Rp.5.

The First Time I got "Lucky 88" LOL

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Quote from: ryzaadit on October 17, 2023, 11:36:55 PM

Quote from: delfastTions on October 12, 2023, 06:06:52 AM

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Dude you too much writing about KYC, It's on terms & conditions + most of the casino is website registered (centralized) like it or not you can always ask KYC anytime soon. We already seeing many example from some case and T&C rules in here.
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What’s actually wrong with the fact that I write a lot about KYC?
When it comes to payments with cryptocurrency, this is a very important issue for many people and casino players. If it doesn't mean anything to you, then why should you use cryptocurrency at all? Use fiat curre
encies. It’s much simpler, you don’t have to think at all about the exchange and transfer speed, about the commission, which, it’s true, can be large even in fiat. I have no doubt that millions of people who play in casinos need to remain anonymous for completely different reasons. People who don’t know about it can only guess about these reasons, and if you don’t live in a country where these reasons are important, then you don’t know anything about them. And yes, of course I don’t like that casinos are introducing KYC verification more and more. And many players are forced to stop playing in good casinos precisely because of these regulatory requirements.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on October 18, 2023, 04:54:44 AM

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Back normal.

I contact them, and the support replay me on around 20 mins. I can't contact via live-chat due the site 404 and the live chat is mising, now has been fixed all mirror link and other.

Working back again, thx.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on October 17, 2023, 11:36:55 PM

Does anyone today have some problem accessing BK8? all the link now 404 now, seem weird not only these link but a mirror link as well

I can't reproduce your problem (I'm using VPN), the site is working properly.
Maybe it's been fixed.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 12, 2023, 06:06:52 AM

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Dude you too much writing about KYC, It's on terms & conditions + most of the casino is website registered (centralized) like it or not you can always ask KYC anytime soon. We already seeing many example from some case and T&C rules in here.

Does anyone today have some problem accessing BK8? all the link now 404 now, seem weird not only these link but a mirror link as well

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Quote from: ryzaadit on October 10, 2023, 02:56:53 PM

Quote from: delfastTions on October 07, 2023, 09:16:58 AM

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Sometimes it's weird for people who are really scared about (KYC). It's on the T&C, every centralized casino (web-register) always required you KYC in some condition never take any bullshit promise they provided you without KYC. It's always being optional, doesn't mean you are gonna to compelted anonymous just get ready once you being ask. All the reward is always have some offer you want to receive with amount-balance credit to your account / Item.

Anway guys, did you get a good prize from wheel ? 10x still nothing ~XD only Rp.5.

If a person uses cryptocurrency, which has one of the most important functions, namely the ability to make anonymous payments. Initially, Satoshi’s goal was precisely to ensure anonymity.
And it’s not for nothing that the world has been guessing who Satoshi is for almost 15 years? So, if a player uses cryptocurrency instad of fiat to deposit in a casino, then in some cases, and even in most cases, he would prefer to remain anonymous. Otherwise, why would you even need cryptocurrency in the game when it’s easier to use the dollar or local currencies? Based on these considerations, KYC is perceived extremely negatively by many players. And this should be taken into account by the casinos themselves, since mandatory KYC always, as I understand it, leads to a rather sharp decrease in the number of players using exclusively cryptocurrency payments.
And it is obvious that crypto casinos without KYC are needed by players all over the world.

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Quote from: delfastTions on October 07, 2023, 09:16:58 AM

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Sometimes it's weird for people who are really scared about (KYC). It's on the T&C, every centralized casino (web-register) always required you KYC in some condition never take any bullshit promise they provided you without KYC. It's always being optional, doesn't mean you are gonna to compelted anonymous just get ready once you being ask. All the reward is always have some offer you want to receive with amount-balance credit to your account / Item.

Anway guys, did you get a good prize from wheel ? 10x still nothing ~XD only Rp.5.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on October 02, 2023, 10:21:21 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on October 02, 2023, 02:30:19 AM

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Item prize in BK8 it's just for more excited or different, you always have the option to get in-cash (Balance) on your account.

How I know? because I have some experience getting (Airpod) from BK8. They offering me the prize want to be item or cash, due I don't want to reveal my information address decide to get cash.

Airpod estimation around Rp. 1,200,000 IDR.

Well, of course, we must take into account that many, even I would say very, very many players want to remain anonymous as much as possible, not provide their personal data to the casino and not go throogh the KYC procedure if possible.
This is very important to many people and the reasons can be completely different. Right down to secrets about your game even in the family circle or among relatives. In this case, of course, you just need to receive a monetary reward equivalent to the gift. Even if it’s not very big, like this ~$75 you won.
But of course it’s nice and it’s an incentive to continue playing in such a casino. And in general, it’s great that players can decide for themselves to receive a real gift. Or simply receive the equivalent in money to your account at this casino.
This is also a very good incentive to continue playing in a casino such as, for example, BK8.

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