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Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 116. (Read 787050 times)

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Bitmain will ship even sooner, so I for one would get a refund from BA and run.

Except that's not possible. Your only hope for a refund is if you used Minersource as reseller. BA won't refund.

The longer it takes to produce a final product, the more BA spends. Unless they've been mining with the x3s already, they likely don't have money for refunds. They've had problems at every step of production, this costs more money that they didn't plan on spending. They've had problems with 5 LCD factories, that probably blew 80% of their total budget. Cheesy
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Bitmain will ship even sooner, so I for one would get a refund from BA and run.

Except that's not possible. Your only hope for a refund is if you used Minersource as reseller. BA won't refund.
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If this x-3 ever ships I could see a small return.  maybe 400 or so on the 650.  Waiting
"small return" - how it works? It is not possible. Mathematic (b)asics are so smart.

For me to turn a profit or a small profit .  It needs to be 500gh and 800usd a coin and start to hash on JULY 7 = No way.

I purchased 200gh and have been promised 300gh so I am far short here.

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I think you misunderstand me.    Or maybe I should have been more clear.   I will write this a different way.


 If they ever hash for me for my 650 put in I could get back 400.  That is a loss of 250, but I still had 400 of the 650 returned.



I do not hope for more then 400 of the 650 at this point in time.

I hope to have a loss of 250 rather then have a loss of 650.  

          

As for basic math it does not apply yet.  It can't be applied until the gear is hashing.  I spent 650 usd to purchase coins to buy the gear.
   So my numbers are all in usd.
I ordered 200gh. Which has been promised to be at least 300gh.


We both know 300gh hashing today does not earn much usd  (remember I am all usd )

but if the gear starts to hash July 7th  and if btc is at 800usd  I will get about 400 usd returned to me.  thus a small return and not a profitable one at that.

 this is really optimistic  and get me 400 returned a negative at best.  

other cases all come out bad. say they give me 500gh vs 300gh  that still does not work.




another   500 gh not 300gh but coins stay at 600 usd  I get back 470 of 650


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There is no need to lie to yourself. We all now know that Black Arrow is a Scam company.
Delivery was 24th February 2014 for the X3 (batch 1).
Now it is 29th June 2014 and no delivery of the main product.
In my case, I just got a f.cking PSU, which I can not use. Price: More than 4000 USD.
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A "fair" market price for hardware would be around 1.4$/GH at the moment (hardware delivered RIGHT NOW)

Everything higher than that will probably not ROI (if you don´t have 0.05$/kWh).

Are you guys receiving any compensation, or did you effectively buy 2TH at $6K?


You do know that spondoolies 0.4W/GH 0.7$/GH devices will be shipped come August?

Bitmain will ship even sooner, so I for one would get a refund from BA and run.
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According to coinwarz the X3 (2Th/s) currently makes $30 a day. How many days to ROI is that?
The current difficulty is 16818461371. Starting today using an X3 (2TH/s) means, you can earn round about 3.5 and 4.0 BTC in 2 years, depending on difficulty increasing not higher than 20%. If you need to pay customs for the X3, taxes or power comsumption: GOOD LUCK.
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According to coinwarz the X3 (2Th/s) currently makes $30 a day. How many days to ROI is that?

Bitcoin Difficulty:   16,818,461,371

i'm now mining an altcoin.  Cry
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Bitcoin Difficulty:   16,818,461,371
Estimated Next Difficulty:   20,876,199,657 (+24.13%)
Adjust time:   After 2015 Blocks, About 13.5 days
Hashrate(?):   125,322,891 GH/s

Seriously if I don't get a shipping notification this week I'm done waiting and seriously considering calling it a 100% loss.
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If this x-3 ever ships I could see a small return.  maybe 400 or so on the 650.  Waiting
"small return" - how it works? It is not possible. Mathematic (b)asics are so smart.
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Anyone want to trade a BA pre order for a BFL pre order??

WOW  Shocked  That's what I call irony  Cheesy  Not much difference,cept that BA is actually shipping & BFL still have at least "2 weeks™",er......2 months  Cheesy

Pretty funny when you think about it.

I actually was fully refunded by BFL  14 months after the fact. 

 I now await some action here as I have a small amount of usd tied up 650 usd.

  In the Dz coop round 17.   If this x-3 ever ships I could see a small return.  maybe 400 or so on the 650.  Waiting
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Anyone want to trade a BA pre order for a BFL pre order??

WOW  Shocked  That's what I call irony  Cheesy  Not much difference,cept that BA is actually shipping & BFL still have at least "2 weeks™",er......2 months  Cheesy
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Anyone want to trade a BA pre order for a BFL pre order??

My X-1 for your monarch? ;-)
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Anyone want to trade a BA pre order for a BFL pre order??
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I've got 3 orders. I got the first one. Waiting on order 2 and 3.

What is your first order number?
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Ah k man better late than never
legendary
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I've got 3 orders. I got the first one. Waiting on order 2 and 3.
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I have dreams of BA give all the x1 buyers an x2 that can plug into the x1 for control. Making the x1 really 360 GH/s. That would almost be cool.

I thought you had received an X1 it was your only order ? or you still waiting for other orders for X1 or X3 from BAS MS ?
I ask because I just wanted to know those who had received X1 received the entire order or just a prototype unit
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I have dreams of BA give all the x1 buyers an x2 that can plug into the x1 for control. Making the x1 really 360 GH/s. That would almost be cool.
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Too bad the monarch is not a threat to anything else either.  The 600G to 1T hash ship has sailed and is now so far from the dock not even the wake is visible.  We are seeing the final product attempts from these companies; no one is going to crowd fund btc hardware ever again.  It would take a real semiconductor manufacturer like Intel or Samsung to craft viable sub-20nm process wafers, and even with their billions devoted to die-shrink capabilities they've had trouble with fabrication.

I bet BFL will deliver the Monarch before BA delivers a single X3.

EDIT:

"Black Arrow is no threat to the Monarch" -- Josh
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I bet BFL will deliver the Monarch before BA delivers a single X3.

EDIT:

"Black Arrow is no threat to the Monarch" -- Josh

a choice between 2 evils.
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