Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 239. (Read 787053 times)

Thank you, I have forwarded my refund request that was e-mailed to [email protected] on February 1, 2014 to the support e-mail address above as instructed. I suppose that since I sent it to the wrong e-mail address, I go to the back of the queue? I sincerely hope not...

Cheers.

We are processing all the refunds sent to [email protected].
If you submitted it- we havent forgotten, its just takes a while.

Also... we sell antminers as well... and unlike Ninja we have them in stock and not shipping form china (if hes going to jack the thread anyways)

Matt/Bobsag, As you continue to provide refunds, could I please have mine as requested multiple times? Thank you.

Just a quick post to give Minersource credit for issuing refund on X3.  Took a few weeks but check came in the mail and cleared.  Thanks for being legit.

IMHO the S1 is biting on the viability of ever producing the X1 in it's current form and price. S1 price keeps dropping daily it seems.

I've said it before IMHO doubling up the number of Minions/device may be the only economical solution for offsetting the delay.

Nevertheless they are shipping in hand units. Yeah, you can't get them on credit, but that's ok. Nobody is going to ship one to you for free and hope you'll pay. That's just asking to be scammed.

Actually not. People have to pay first to Bitmain, then the devices are sent to them. You cannot get the miner delivered and pay for it later.
I understand what you mean. The difference is they are sent immediately, so it is like buying in a shop, not like pre-ordering.
Yet one cannot tell Bitmain isn't asking for money up front.

And just what are the facts? Delays, broken promises, sloppiness, lies, incompetence... perfect material for the too often seen these days story of Bitcoin mining companies.

I'd be looking for a publicist about now. Never let facts stand in the way of a good story.

Precisely.

So they can't even get one PR person to show up and answer questions for weeks now but they will produce a complex miner, using a custom designed chip and board and they will deliver it on time, using the "new" schedule. Just let that sink in for a minute. My back of the napkin estimate - ladies and gentlemen, if everything else in that company runs just as well (and we have seen no proof to the contrary so far) we are screwed.

Good for the manufacturers but an abysmal failure in most cases for customers. I'm not sure what keeps them coming back to these offers. Masochism?

So is OPP 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O.P.P._(song)

Depends on your perspective. From the perspective of the customers, with one exception that I can think of, it's been a catastrophe. It's been pretty good for the manufacturers. OPM is highly addictive.

I don't believe that manufacture the mining equipment is so expensive that they need to sell them @ those prices? or am i wrong?
because they are only manufacturing mining equipment... and then we do not need to pay that much because we can not make enough of coins with them. correct me if im wrong

I get the sense that the ability to raise funds off pre-order are done. The track record of being on time to market hasn't been all that successful in a market where time truly is money.

No. They followed the smart model and only sold "in hand" units. Still do, other than occasionally a couple days lead time (or about a week for CNY). It's not the best, bleeding edge tech, but you don't wait for it.

first of all in EU the retail stores and other sellers (for example shoping malls, department stores etc..) don't have the obligation by law to offer a refund. A lot of them offers it under different conditions  and the major part of the people thinks they have right to it but the law only says "if the item don't works, and the retailer can not replace it for the same or similar" and they don't have the obligation to refund in cash (they must advertise this in the bills, invoices and in the store before purchase).
Another question is what if they don't deliver the goods or what is a reasonable/justified delay and what not for that we have a kind of "consumer court" to place complaints and make deals and arrangements between customers and sellers. In fact few years ago I have a job in the customer service of one of the biggest retail chains of EU (like your Walmart) and I know a little bit of what I'm talking about.

We make and order thru a web page to a chinese corp. as show in my invoice (maybe in yours appears an US Corp), so im not sure if we can apply our local laws or the law of your country in these case.

Please think the world is a big place before ask someone to "educate yourself"

In one of my native languages "próspero" (Spanish) means "wealthy", I hope so.

Finally... Phinaeus come on dude, improve your life, turn off your computer, go out and get a girlfriend or something  

Still no words/replies from Matt yet on the status of my refund.
I'm going to PM him on this forum just to make sure...........

Correctamundo! I would have started with "Wrongamundo..." taking into consideration coolmusic's native tongue.