Batch 1. 2x X1s. Paid in full in November. Order# is in the very early 900s. No idea whats going on with my order.
I've been lurking over here for ages now (> 8 months) and have read every single post. Very disappointed with the way things have turned out. I'm refraining from purchasing a psu for my compensation unit because:
- dont want to sink any additional money into this fiasco.
- dont even know when the compensation units will ship.
- I have a spare 750w psu that I could possibly use if BA stayed true to their word (lol) and provided instructions on how to jury rig these (or provide an adapter).
Just...so...disappointed.
Topic: Black Arrow 28nm 100Ghash Bitcoin ASIC from $0.49/GH/s - page 94. (Read 787050 times)
http://www.cardreaderfactory.com/shop/about-us.html?sl=EN "CardReaderFactory is a trading name for Merlion Holdings Limited"
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/03016878 - says this company is dissolved / wound up.
http://companycheck.co.uk/company/03016878 - says this company is dissolved / wound up.
Amazing... This is the last question I'm answering on this topic. Please do your proper checks in the future.
Please use the government's official website: http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk
CardReaderFactory is a trading name, is not a company.
BByte LTD is the company in UK. (company number 07035674).
CardReaderFactory LTD company's number is 08125672, not 03016878. This was created only to protect the name; don't expect to get invoices from this company.
Once again, we are NOT based in the UK. BByte is a reseller
Alex Sovu IS BByte and OWNER of Black Arrow.
What part of Black-Arrow-is-a-scam-written-all-over-it from the very get-go didn't anybody who ordered from them not understand?
I mean, maybe I should have been worried a few months ago when I discovered this company used to sell equipment for credit-card-skimming. What do you think CardReaderFactory is? Why would people pay several thousand dollars for a few bucks of hardware that happens to be a very tiny credit card reader.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
BA is just like an anxiety dream playing out in real life.
It's as though some day in June one of them panicked and said, "oh my God, I totally forgot, weren't we supposed to build miners?".
Then that same person realized he had a final exam that day in a class he forgot he was in and never went to all semester, while a monster was chasing him but his legs moved in slow motion, which was after having been on the schoolbus in his underwear, and he was driving but the brakes wouldn't stop the car.
It's as though some day in June one of them panicked and said, "oh my God, I totally forgot, weren't we supposed to build miners?".
Then that same person realized he had a final exam that day in a class he forgot he was in and never went to all semester, while a monster was chasing him but his legs moved in slow motion, which was after having been on the schoolbus in his underwear, and he was driving but the brakes wouldn't stop the car.
Lol, I have that final exam dream all the time!
Bobsag, any info on the next shipment from BA?
I'll ask again, any shipment information? A simple yes or no. And if yes, when's it due in. Ill ask again in another two days if there's no reply. ill interpret silence as a "No" answer.
david105396, on 13 Jul 2014 - 11:14 PM, said:
I am very busy with a lot of things at the moment, so I can't be on the forums all day or every day.
I'm sorry but if you are unable to satisfy the customers with regular and on time updates then it is the companies responsibility to provide someone else who can issue regular and on time updates. I'm getting very tired of 'I'm very busy', 'they're all busy'. It's not good enough!! Unprofessional is the word and it's written all over your company. Not is single apology for being late with the update... That says it all. You were looking into it a day or two ago..... What happened?
It would appear David is too busy to provide us with the information we require and deserve. BA doesn't give a sh.t about us, it's obvious! No update for us at all cos they're sooooooo busy !!!! What a joke! Time to join Pentax I think and reclaim the US$25K+ that this company has swindled out of me.
I don't care if the hunt is in China, The Virgin Islands or Reading UK. It's game on now!
I hope it's Reading UK though as I'm moving from this side of the planet back to the UK soon.
Oh... Better mention that by 'Hunt' I mean legal justice, no threat to BA staff at all !!! Just for the record.
I am very busy with a lot of things at the moment, so I can't be on the forums all day or every day.
I'm sorry but if you are unable to satisfy the customers with regular and on time updates then it is the companies responsibility to provide someone else who can issue regular and on time updates. I'm getting very tired of 'I'm very busy', 'they're all busy'. It's not good enough!! Unprofessional is the word and it's written all over your company. Not is single apology for being late with the update... That says it all. You were looking into it a day or two ago..... What happened?
It would appear David is too busy to provide us with the information we require and deserve. BA doesn't give a sh.t about us, it's obvious! No update for us at all cos they're sooooooo busy !!!! What a joke! Time to join Pentax I think and reclaim the US$25K+ that this company has swindled out of me.
I don't care if the hunt is in China, The Virgin Islands or Reading UK. It's game on now!
I hope it's Reading UK though as I'm moving from this side of the planet back to the UK soon.
Oh... Better mention that by 'Hunt' I mean legal justice, no threat to BA staff at all !!! Just for the record.
We are all looking forward to the details of your legal action. Please send details so we can all understand what you are doing.
I see no evidence that they have all of the parts to complete X3 production. They stated they have only made 10% of the backplanes. No LCD's and who know how many power supplies they have in stock. It could be none because they are selling what they have to generate income to keep their operations afloat. This situation looks like Hashfast part two. Delays and broken promises. Deliver a few units to make people think they are ok then bankruptcy.
I think it's pretty evident that the same company that under-estimated the difficulty it would take to create a couple of miners also under-estimated what it would take to assemble and ship them. It takes a long time to get assembly and shipping lines up to speed.
Anyone who really thinks Black Arrow will ship all the orders this month for both X1 and X3 are kidding themselves. It won't be in August either. It'll go into September or October.
If BFL is any guide on how to do things wrong, we can see Black Arrow repeating those same mistakes. And just like BFL it'll take their shipping a long time to get things out the door. They will have parts shortages. The wrong screws, or like BFL a shortage of power supplies. And people will say, "Why didn't you order these a long time ago? I thought... Blah... Blah... Angry... Blah..." And they will stop shipping for long periods of time (Like now) and then ship and stop and ship and stop.
I would like to see the first X3 go out the door, but it's obvious they are still having problems with it since none have shipped even though they have all the parts for it.
Anyone who really thinks Black Arrow will ship all the orders this month for both X1 and X3 are kidding themselves. It won't be in August either. It'll go into September or October.
If BFL is any guide on how to do things wrong, we can see Black Arrow repeating those same mistakes. And just like BFL it'll take their shipping a long time to get things out the door. They will have parts shortages. The wrong screws, or like BFL a shortage of power supplies. And people will say, "Why didn't you order these a long time ago? I thought... Blah... Blah... Angry... Blah..." And they will stop shipping for long periods of time (Like now) and then ship and stop and ship and stop.
I would like to see the first X3 go out the door, but it's obvious they are still having problems with it since none have shipped even though they have all the parts for it.
BA has already been dishonest about dates. They kept on claiming they would ship in February and that they were on schedule then when the deadline hit nothing was shipped. They then extended their deadlines and made excuses as to why they couldn't ship. Now they claim end of July for X3 shipments. Why should we believe anything they say?
2.We have already manufactured 10% of the X-3 backplanes which are now in SMT line for assembly. We expect to deliver them by 12th of July
3.Deliveries of all X-3 current orders will be completed by the end of the month.
Where is our update? Hopefully we will see it today!
So 10% of X3 orders should have shipped by now, anyone received shipping info?
This is the last 'promise' I'm taking from BA for my X3s. All orders 'WILL' be shipped by end of the month! Totally looking like a loss but still have hope of BTC price increasing.
3.Deliveries of all X-3 current orders will be completed by the end of the month.
Where is our update? Hopefully we will see it today!
So 10% of X3 orders should have shipped by now, anyone received shipping info?
This is the last 'promise' I'm taking from BA for my X3s. All orders 'WILL' be shipped by end of the month! Totally looking like a loss but still have hope of BTC price increasing.
They have only made 10% of the back planes. They are probably mining with the X-3s they have built so that they can refund customers, build more back planes, and get LCD's. They said refunds would happen only after all orders have shipped? Why is that? Because they don't have the money for more parts. Why else would they ship units missing parts such as the LCD.
That will be pretty dishonest if it really did happened.
Don't worry, I'm now in the same boat also
Lucky you kept trying to get that solution but they kept saying no but I'm now in the group buy so we'll see.
I mean, they offered me credit when I had inquired about the possibility of a refund on the 1st. I opted to wait it out for a bit but here we are delivery date still unclear, happily they kept their word. I'd imagine they'd hesitate to issue a credit to someone who is asking now for the first time once shipping has begun.
I'd wager that if the next pallet's tracking info isn't updated in the next few days they might give you credit after all.
Minersource was put in a tough spot by black arrow and I'm glad they honored my request.
They, minersource, promised me twice to send a refund. I still got nothing. Talk about not holding your promises.
2.We have already manufactured 10% of the X-3 backplanes which are now in SMT line for assembly. We expect to deliver them by 12th of July
3.Deliveries of all X-3 current orders will be completed by the end of the month.
Where is our update? Hopefully we will see it today!
So 10% of X3 orders should have shipped by now, anyone received shipping info?
This is the last 'promise' I'm taking from BA for my X3s. All orders 'WILL' be shipped by end of the month! Totally looking like a loss but still have hope of BTC price increasing.
3.Deliveries of all X-3 current orders will be completed by the end of the month.
Where is our update? Hopefully we will see it today!
So 10% of X3 orders should have shipped by now, anyone received shipping info?
This is the last 'promise' I'm taking from BA for my X3s. All orders 'WILL' be shipped by end of the month! Totally looking like a loss but still have hope of BTC price increasing.
They have only made 10% of the back planes. They are probably mining with the X-3s they have built so that they can refund customers, build more back planes, and get LCD's. They said refunds would happen only after all orders have shipped? Why is that? Because they don't have the money for more parts. Why else would they ship units missing parts such as the LCD.
Feb 28 2014: 3,815,723,799
Jul 12 2014: 17,336,316,979
17.3 / 3.8 = 4.55
4.55 * 2Th/s = 9.105Th/s
4.55 * 100Gh/s = 455Gh/s
Jul 12 2014: 17,336,316,979
17.3 / 3.8 = 4.55
4.55 * 2Th/s = 9.105Th/s
4.55 * 100Gh/s = 455Gh/s
Good math...but ain't gonna happen
You'll be lucky to get the miners you ordered...anytime soon 
BA is just like an anxiety dream playing out in real life.
It's as though some day in June one of them panicked and said, "oh my God, I totally forgot, weren't we supposed to build miners?".
Then that same person realized he had a final exam that day in a class he forgot he was in and never went to all semester, while a monster was chasing him but his legs moved in slow motion, which was after having been on the schoolbus in his underwear, and he was driving but the brakes wouldn't stop the car.
It's as though some day in June one of them panicked and said, "oh my God, I totally forgot, weren't we supposed to build miners?".
Then that same person realized he had a final exam that day in a class he forgot he was in and never went to all semester, while a monster was chasing him but his legs moved in slow motion, which was after having been on the schoolbus in his underwear, and he was driving but the brakes wouldn't stop the car.
Lol, I have that final exam dream all the time!
Bobsag, any info on the next shipment from BA?
Difficulty is more than 10X 4X what it was when we were first promised delivery... So if we were to receive 10 4 times as much hash power as we first ordered I'd consider that to be full compensation. Obviously that won't happen, so anything less is getting less than we paid for.
I've never been so stressed such as BA did ! and I think if MS have not been on that for providing a real support and a plan B specially for X3 customers this would have been a disaster :/
It's still a disaster. Four heatsinks and fans per your plan B boards plus power supply. Still not gonna look good to make anything back unless BTC price rises and difficulty doesn't go sky high.
they suggested to exchange the extra chips for boards ! what do you want more ?! Rather fallow this way or to wait a thing that can never come
I've never been so stressed such as BA did ! and I think if MS have not been on that for providing a real support and a plan B specially for X3 customers this would have been a disaster :/
BA is just like an anxiety dream playing out in real life.
It's as though some day in June one of them panicked and said, "oh my God, I totally forgot, weren't we supposed to build miners?".
Then that same person realized he had a final exam that day in a class he forgot he was in and never went to all semester, while a monster was chasing him but his legs moved in slow motion, which was after having been on the schoolbus in his underwear, and he was driving but the brakes wouldn't stop the car.
It's as though some day in June one of them panicked and said, "oh my God, I totally forgot, weren't we supposed to build miners?".
Then that same person realized he had a final exam that day in a class he forgot he was in and never went to all semester, while a monster was chasing him but his legs moved in slow motion, which was after having been on the schoolbus in his underwear, and he was driving but the brakes wouldn't stop the car.
Thanks for the laugh!!!!!!!!!
On July second, They told me that they would give me a refund this week if my X3 order wasn't in by the end of the week. they rescinded that offer once BA came out with their (non) updated compensation plan.
To say that I am disappointed at this is an understatement. I expected better from them, really. I'm not really sure what to make of minersource right now. I know they mean well, and I appreciate the hustle to get chips to marto to make the technobit boards. But, I went into buying X-3s based on bobsag3 and the rest of the dz-cooperative constantly gushing about BA. Without these endorsements, I wouldn't have bought. But I'm guessing that they just made a mistake, along with everyone else here.
I just hope that they are sharing the pain equally with the rest of us for our bad decisions. Not that I wish them pain, but it is a lot better than them rolling in piles of kickback money from our pre-orders.
I mean, they offered me credit when I had inquired about the possibility of a refund on the 1st. I opted to wait it out for a bit but here we are delivery date still unclear, happily they kept their word. I'd imagine they'd hesitate to issue a credit to someone who is asking now for the first time once shipping has begun.
I'd wager that if the next pallet's tracking info isn't updated in the next few days they might give you credit after all.
Minersource was put in a tough spot by black arrow and I'm glad they honored my request.
To say that I am disappointed at this is an understatement. I expected better from them, really. I'm not really sure what to make of minersource right now. I know they mean well, and I appreciate the hustle to get chips to marto to make the technobit boards. But, I went into buying X-3s based on bobsag3 and the rest of the dz-cooperative constantly gushing about BA. Without these endorsements, I wouldn't have bought. But I'm guessing that they just made a mistake, along with everyone else here.
I just hope that they are sharing the pain equally with the rest of us for our bad decisions. Not that I wish them pain, but it is a lot better than them rolling in piles of kickback money from our pre-orders.
Lucky you kept trying to get that solution but they kept saying no but I'm now in the group buy so we'll see.
I mean, they offered me credit when I had inquired about the possibility of a refund on the 1st. I opted to wait it out for a bit but here we are delivery date still unclear, happily they kept their word. I'd imagine they'd hesitate to issue a credit to someone who is asking now for the first time once shipping has begun.
I'd wager that if the next pallet's tracking info isn't updated in the next few days they might give you credit after all.
Minersource was put in a tough spot by black arrow and I'm glad they honored my request.
Lucky you kept trying to get that solution but they kept saying no but I'm now in the group buy so we'll see.
I mean, they offered me credit when I had inquired about the possibility of a refund on the 1st. I opted to wait it out for a bit but here we are delivery date still unclear, happily they kept their word. I'd imagine they'd hesitate to issue a credit to someone who is asking now for the first time once shipping has begun.
I'd wager that if the next pallet's tracking info isn't updated in the next few days they might give you credit after all.
Minersource was put in a tough spot by black arrow and I'm glad they honored my request.
They have single handedly killed their company, there will be no Blackarrow this time next year, mark my words.
Why would you think they will no longer be around? They managed to secure a very large interest free loan to develop and build miners. They can now build out a farm using @ cost matrix to mine. I think they will be able to mine with @ cost gear while continuing to increase their personal hashrate for quite some time to come. They got what they needed from the community (surprisingly interest free loans are pretty easy to get if you just say your going to make miner), if there not mental retards they should easily be able to use that capital to mine themselves profitably for quite some time.
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