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Topic: BLOKFORGE- Official Canaan Distributor - page 28. (Read 24515 times)

newbie
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January 06, 2018, 12:04:02 PM
Hopefully it's significantly under 3k, because at that price it would almost be better to have two 741's.
newbie
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Merit: 0
January 06, 2018, 08:23:45 AM
The price on the pallets has been set for over a week now. It doesn't mean anything. A week ago BTC was at $20k USD and they will adjust it based on the price of BTC (as they have stated) at the time of sale. Right now I expect it to be less than the price they are showing.

Pure and simple: they can charge whatever they want and (at least some) people will pay it.





So at today's pricing you can take off around $390.15.  But this does not account for shipping/import taxes etc....





Edit:  Yes, they can most likely charge 4k, and still sell out.  People will still snatch them up

Bitmain's S9 batch that sold out on Dec 19th was priced at $2750, the batch that sold out the other day was at $2340. I would expect the 821s to be priced under 3k, assuming the price of BTC/BCH doesn't go through the roof before the 12th.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
January 05, 2018, 10:55:20 PM
The price on the pallets has been set for over a week now. It doesn't mean anything. A week ago BTC was at $20k USD and they will adjust it based on the price of BTC (as they have stated) at the time of sale. Right now I expect it to be less than the price they are showing.

Pure and simple: they can charge whatever they want and (at least some) people will pay it.





So at today's pricing you can take off around $390.15.  But this does not account for shipping/import taxes etc....

True. But also consider that the price they are showing may not be what the distributors actually pay; even if adjusted for current market prices.

We should find out by the 12th though.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
January 05, 2018, 10:53:24 PM
The price on the pallets has been set for over a week now. It doesn't mean anything. A week ago BTC was at $20k USD and they will adjust it based on the price of BTC (as they have stated) at the time of sale. Right now I expect it to be less than the price they are showing.

Pure and simple: they can charge whatever they want and (at least some) people will pay it.





So at today's pricing you can take off around $390.15.  But this does not account for shipping/import taxes etc....





Edit:  Yes, they can most likely charge 4k, and still sell out.  People will still snatch them up
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
January 05, 2018, 10:34:57 PM
The price on the pallets has been set for over a week now. It doesn't mean anything. A week ago BTC was at $20k USD and they will adjust it based on the price of BTC (as they have stated) at the time of sale. Right now I expect it to be less than the price they are showing.

Pure and simple: they can charge whatever they want and (at least some) people will pay it.

newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
January 05, 2018, 10:30:35 PM
How much did they cost a pc?

  No one knows... if I would have to guess I would say around 22-2300.00usd/each

bulk reseller price is $2885 each ($173,100 pallet with 60 pieces)
https://canaan.io/product/bulk-pack-reseller-821/

Im guessing resellers price will easily be above $3,000



If using that price the controller and PSU would also be included. 




So the Sorcerer PSU, and the controller. 

If the reseller is getting them for $2885 then they will have to resell for at least $3500 - $3600.  The reseller has to make a profit, and these items do not bring in any secondary sales (i.e. add on items into the cart).  So I would be very surprised in not seeing at least a 25% profit margin. 

Does the $2885 include shipping as well?
newbie
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January 05, 2018, 08:14:43 PM
How much did they cost a pc?

  No one knows... if I would have to guess I would say around 22-2300.00usd/each

bulk reseller price is $2885 each ($173,100 pallet with 60 pieces)
https://canaan.io/product/bulk-pack-reseller-821/

Im guessing resellers price will easily be above $3,000



If using that price the controller and PSU would also be included. 
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
January 05, 2018, 07:38:54 PM
They can’t charge more than Bitmain is charging for the S9 at the same time. Bitmain is due to announce their next generation 256 miner anyways. But I expect the price of the 821 to be close or equal to the s9. 

Not true

I didn't mean it was a known thing... I'm just saying the S9 has been out for a while and Bitmain will have been working on its successor.


And of course they CAN charge nearly anything they want in the current market and atmosphere. But in a normal market, you can't ask more for less.
legendary
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Electrical engineer. Mining since 2014.
January 05, 2018, 07:35:53 PM
Yeah there is certainly nothing confirmed yet about Bitmain's future hardware.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
January 05, 2018, 07:33:57 PM
They can’t charge more than Bitmain is charging for the S9 at the same time. Bitmain is due to announce their next generation 256 miner anyways. But I expect the price of the 821 to be close or equal to the s9. 

Not true
jr. member
Activity: 41
Merit: 3
January 05, 2018, 07:25:23 PM
So it was announced on twitter that presale is Jan 12th 5pm MST? Did I miss that here? I was expecting to read about it here first.

There will be another notice in here for the 10 miners that Blokforge is setting aside for us. 

10 eh?
member
Activity: 658
Merit: 21
4 s9's 2 821's
January 05, 2018, 05:19:17 PM
So it was announced on twitter that presale is Jan 12th 5pm MST? Did I miss that here? I was expecting to read about it here first.

There will be another notice in here for the 10 miners that Blokforge is setting aside for us. 
jr. member
Activity: 40
Merit: 1
Bitrated user: caxibrema.
January 05, 2018, 04:42:18 PM
I got in the newsletter quite a while ago:

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Avalon 821:  The Avalon 821 will ship at 11 TH (terahash) and 1200 Watts for a power efficiency of 109 Watts per TH, a great improvement over the 741 which was rated at 150 Watts/TH. Pre-sale date will be Jan 12th 2018 at 5pm MST.  Pricing will be established by the manufacturer and driven by market forces and the price of Bitcoin.  Pricing and shipping dates will be updated on the site a few days before the sale.  We will not be answering calls during this time, we cannot field hundreds of instantaneous calls requesting to pay over the phone, thanks in advance for understanding.
member
Activity: 140
Merit: 17
January 05, 2018, 04:33:27 PM
So it was announced on twitter that presale is Jan 12th 5pm MST? Did I miss that here? I was expecting to read about it here first.
alh
legendary
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Merit: 1052
January 05, 2018, 03:56:04 PM
If you’re a distributor, do you want to be holding a pallet of 821s that cost more than the s9 when the S11 gets announced?

With an unknown price, hashrate, or delivery date for an as yet un-announced S11, I think the risk is pretty low. Right now, FOMO is strong with Bitcoin.  Smiley
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
January 05, 2018, 03:48:59 PM
If you’re a distributor, do you want to be holding a pallet of 821s that cost more than the s9 when the S11 gets announced?
member
Activity: 658
Merit: 21
4 s9's 2 821's
January 05, 2018, 03:32:25 PM
They can’t charge more than Bitmain is charging for the S9 at the same time. Bitmain is due to announce their next generation 256 miner anyways. But I expect the price of the 821 to be close or equal to the s9. 

Yes they can, they can charge what they want.  Bitmain went for the low blow the last batch to get Canaan to react...we'll see if they do.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
January 05, 2018, 03:10:41 PM
They can’t charge more than Bitmain is charging for the S9 at the same time. Bitmain is due to announce their next generation 256 miner anyways. But I expect the price of the 821 to be close or equal to the s9. 
newbie
Activity: 34
Merit: 0
January 05, 2018, 01:37:53 PM
How much did they cost a pc?

  No one knows... if I would have to guess I would say around 22-2300.00usd/each

bulk reseller price is $2885 each ($173,100 pallet with 60 pieces)
https://canaan.io/product/bulk-pack-reseller-821/

Im guessing resellers price will easily be above $3,000



I think it will be between $2500 and $3000. Bitmain just sold a batch of S9s for ~$2400.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
January 05, 2018, 11:25:23 AM
How much did they cost a pc?

  No one knows... if I would have to guess I would say around 22-2300.00usd/each

bulk reseller price is $2885 each ($173,100 pallet with 60 pieces)
https://canaan.io/product/bulk-pack-reseller-821/

Im guessing resellers price will easily be above $3,000



The Canaan prices seem to be jacked up on the site to allow for profits from their distributors. I doubt it’s the actual price the distributors are paying.
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