Topic: BM1384 Pod Miner plus trade-in/recycling - an interest and feasibility poll - page 14. (Read 27780 times)

I did some math over here:  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12735287

I think there are some mis-commuications. It's around 289 BTC not USD.  So that likely added to it.   

Well if that is the case from the above I stand corrected...but they said 'bulk orders' in the above so usually that means 'a piece' then they hit you with the
amount you have to buy in bulk to get that price (or not)

I really doubt you are gonna get 333 usb miners for $289.71 usd it would be nice 1PH for $289.71. But again they are talking about 'miners' not 'chips' so
I think my price is correct on the above

(Never wanted to be more wrong in my life ..so if so ...point it out)

I was under the impression that the BW preorder was for 333 miners at .87 BTC equalling about 1 Ph for a total of about 289.71 BTC

 Ah sidehack what you could do with these chips and some IPO $$$ (not impressed). Doing what you would do 'should' if you could get such high end chips
and  BW would be charging way way more $$$ to do so (turn to the darkside 'sidehack') just saying note below BW 14nm usb stick 34.6 to 63gh chip ONLY 0.86 btc (bulk of 333)
so even if you could get them at that price NOT in bulk of 333...even as a legit .pre-order this FALL at about 231 bucks a usb chip! and they will ship it to you sometime Winter 2016!

heh lame

here is the info

Here you go 14nm usb chip for the masses..you pay thru the nose for it....but a cute toy (and the joys it looks like of a pre-order raffle)

Info on BW company itself


https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/the-unknown-giant-a-first-look-inside-bw-one-of-china-s-oldest-and-largest-miners-1444675310

on the supposed 14nm product

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/bw-to-launch-nm-chip-and-miner-for-general-population-1445278227



from the above

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Along with the announcement of its bitcoin chip, the company has announced that it will be releasing a bitcoin miner for consumers that will launch in Winter 2016.
“The miners are now available for pre-order at a price of 0.87 BTC with a minimum order of 333 miners which is 1 petahash,” Virgilio Lizardo Jr., Head of International at Bitbank told Bitcoin Magazine in an exclusive interview. “This price will be available until November 11, 2015. This winter, the miners will be available with no minimum order required; the price at this time has not been decided yet.”

According to BW, each 14nm chip in the miner will be able to attain anywhere from 34.6-63GH/s. The power consumption is 18W based on a voltage of 0.59V to 0.76V.

end quote

So the above says (assuming you could get one w/o bulk at the bulk price above) it would be as I type this $230.99 for a 34.6GH to 63.0GH USB Stick!

Sheesh. I can get any number of ASIC miners NOW ..electric be damned for a better return then that! and still nerver  ROI indeed and have my no ROI Toys NOW!

But anyway another toy....but right now you could get 10 8gb usb stick Sidehack Gekko Miners (overclocked say to 10gh each) for 250 bucks would be 100gh NOW TODAY!
..so I sure as hell am not sure why the hell you would do the above on these BW sticks arriving in Winter 2016. The ROI is the same. A smile

but toys be toys I guess.

Sidehack sales thread here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/run-2-closedsidehack-stickgekkoscience-compac-official-sales-thread-1126705

Humans are nuts!

You have to have a number of posts (20, 25??) to vote in the polls.

Nope. Not until I have a working prototype and I know I can start taking in for a batch. I didn't get the layout quite finished today (Mondays are usually catch-up days and Novak and I tend to burn several hours talking about awesome stuff) and since tomorrow I have a lot of packing and sandwiches to take care of it might not get done tomorrow either but I should be sending off for prototype boards Wednesday. I'd expect at least two weeks after that before I have it tested satisfactorily, which probably puts a November delivery out for a final product.

Sidehack, are you accepting blades now? I am accumulating a pretty good supply and want to do what I can to see this take off.

I think you select the option you like and then click "submit vote".

Well I have yet to figure out how to vote in one of these polls. Perhaps I just come across them after the voting is complete?

Anyhow, I would be interested in the purchase at $50 option. I have no miners suitable for parts, so purchase is the only option for me.

Thanks for your efforts!

-fvineyard

Have fun with it, with a stable high powered hub it's fun to see what it will do.
Oh and the flashy light thingies are fun too.

My future plans a couple months back weren't involving GekkoScience but it would be foolish
from my perspective not to put more effort in supporting this so called "Movement".  It above all
else is refreshing and to have an open forum of discussion here. 

Yes, I'm excited for the Pod as well.  What it brings isn't measured on hashrate but one more step closer
to a competing miner at a reasonable rate, possibly.  Not to mention a continued line of quality product
which will grow GekkoScience to a place it deserves to be.

grindseeds, ASICMiner Block Erupter Tube and other miners use them in fact you can still buy the ones used for ASICMiner Block Erupter Tube here https://www.wtcr.ca/catalog/product/bm-amtbp-01 not sure how good they are or whats good but about find out the best ones to use.

I am excited for this pod miner!!

Just got one of the usb miners, works great. 

I'm going to leave the holes, because some people already have screws for things which were designed to be screwed in place but not everybody has thermal pads or quarter-inch copper plate - I among them. Y'all can do whatever you want to mount your coolers though, since that's part of the point of the project.

New kid on the block here, at least as far as actually commenting on the forums is concerned, been reading for a while. I've got 4 S1s and 2 S3+ units that have been running since December, and the S1s are about ready to go out the door. Would love to help with this project, and get a few pods out of it as well
Slightly related, noticed you were in Missouri, sidehack? What region, if you dont mind my asking? NE here. Anyway, keep up the great work, love the fact we are reusing EoL gear, instead of just throwing it away and buying new. That's what I'm all about.

Bitmain used thermal pads on the U1 and U2-U2+.  I've had my 30 U2+ sticks running 24/7 for almost two years now. In the end, thermal pads/tape, what have you, cost more than Chinese gov't subsidized  bulk PASTE.

If the board is flat and stationary then it would not add any strain at all.  

Yes- the higher the W/mK the better.  I think you are overthinking it.  You are looking at the thermal conductivity = less conductive is more efficient but with a Thermal interface you do want a higher conductivity in order to pass the heat to the cooler. This is why silver is a great TIM but is conductive which creates another set of issues.  Silver has a thermal conductivity of about 418 - while silver thermal compounds have a thermal conductivity of 2-8. 

you did? oh bugger me, I'm half reading things again!


well, sticking a CPU cooler to the chips would make a lot of strain, and having the mounds holds them tight to the heat source.

if anything, large 3cmx3cmx3mm copper shim would do better..
but the Freezer 7 pro looks to have plenty of contact area.

and I thought the W/mK was meant to be higher number is better? Nope. Wrong! http://www.ccfltd.co.uk/Trade-Support/Calculating_U_Values

What about using some of the high end thermal pads with slight adhesion- I know the Phobya has some thermal pads that are in the 7 W/mK and the lower end Phobya is 5 W/mK.  I have never tried thermal pads with ASICS but it cannot be as bad as some of the manufacturers using a gallon of thermal compound.  I ask because it would alleviate the need for cooler mounting holes.

As stated earlier, the chips are arranged in a 3cm x 3cm square. There's a bit more routing required between them than 2mm will allow, especially considering the pads for the no-leads need to stick out from the chip a bit to make soldering correctly easier. The stock Intel cooler I looked at had a 5.5cm raised circular center, a little over 3cm diameter of which was a solid core. This would have pretty much full contact with 4 of the chips and a little over half contact with the other 4.

I'm still talking to the current owner of my surplus of Freezer 7 Pro coolers. I have permission to use them on this project but am still waiting on a price.

got a layout for these chips? they going look like a 3x3? since they are 8mm by 8mm, thats a 24mm by 24mm, less any space between the chips, so give it 2mm between them 26mm by 26mm, so I don't think them stock Intel sinks would work, I can't find one atm to measure.
I'm happy with throwing a "NoFan Icepipe" on that little beast anyway