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September 20, 2019, 11:27:53 AM
Well its part of their strategy to gain more investors coz 25% bonus is still a good deal. Its normal that they creat this bonuses to raise more funds that can be use for theproject development and it's still up to the investors if they will bite the deal.
hero member
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September 20, 2019, 11:24:13 AM
Bonuses are created to gather more investment.
As we are on the situation of this community and the place of the market prices.
More bonuses are created just to get more people to buy on their sales. this is normal.
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Second Live
September 20, 2019, 11:17:04 AM
It also depends on a number of exchanges to implement IEO. For large exchanges like Binance, Huobi, Okex, ... there will certainly be no discount because those are potential projects, we can only buy in private pools at a higher price.
For projects with big discounts, be careful when buying it because when discounted too much, that's certainly not a good token.
Agree. The projects that offer last-minute discounts are lousy projects with no participants. I would never be interested and involved in those projects
hero member
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PredX - AI-Powered Prediction Market
September 20, 2019, 10:55:35 AM
I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs.
Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny.
The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers.
If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis.
We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.



You can say whatever you want to say about bonuses and don't get me wrong I am not in support of the abuse of bonuses but the main goal of these developers doing ICO/IEO is to raise money and they w ill do whatever they can do in their capacity to achieve, and the most common thing is to offer bonuses to attract investors, even if the price start dumping immediately after IEO
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Vave.com
September 20, 2019, 09:52:27 AM
partisan with the business might collects of different use with reference on entrance with the past terms of attains on field with the forum, as defining with one on option as expecting with returns on exceed and work with similar plan on projects with the crypto finance.
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September 20, 2019, 09:31:18 AM
Any last minute discount is a scam it only shows their failure to raise money during their IEO. I saw a project who raised a little about $200 on exchange during their IEO. Because the public don't get to know all this, it's really bad to fall for any sort of discount from any IEO.
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https://streamies.io/
September 20, 2019, 07:29:22 AM
It also depends on a number of exchanges to implement IEO. For large exchanges like Binance, Huobi, Okex, ... there will certainly be no discount because those are potential projects, we can only buy in private pools at a higher price.
For projects with big discounts, be careful when buying it because when discounted too much, that's certainly not a good token.
legendary
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September 20, 2019, 06:44:13 AM
It is not fair to early investors, but that is all. IEOs/ICOs are doing much more shady things than you can imagine. Fake team members, fake followers, fake whitepaper, fake history and much more.
It's your job to determine the authenticity of the documents they are presenting, with proper research, I think you'll be able to make the right judgement.
Good IEO are popular, so you'll not have hard time evaluating the project as we also have a lot of online reviews from reputable sites, but you don't only concentrate on one site as they could be bias, we cannot avoid that since we are all dealing with money here, people serve money and they can be dishonest.
sr. member
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September 20, 2019, 06:43:25 AM
I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs.
Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny.
The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers.
If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis.
We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.


It is indeed funny mate, bonuses are meant to be reducing along the line while the last stage ends up zero. However, I see this as a desperate method that is, they want to make it appealing to investors so they can buy up which then exposes their weakness. I see such IEOs as this type a questionable one, good IEOs don't sound desperate like this, rather they sell off owing to either what they are offering or the exchange it is taking place on. Also, an IEO offering this type of bonus will only end up dumping more when investors starts selling.
hero member
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September 20, 2019, 06:35:14 AM
It is not fair to early investors, but that is all. IEOs/ICOs are doing much more shady things than you can imagine. Fake team members, fake followers, fake whitepaper, fake history and much more.
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September 20, 2019, 05:44:19 AM
Of course, it's win-win for the project, on the one hand, it will sell their tokens, on the other, it will bring liquidity on the exchanges from their investors.
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https://leasehold.io/
September 20, 2019, 05:24:36 AM
I feel sad when many bounty hunters promote fraudulent, bogus projects. Promoting blatantly, there is no evaluation of the project that makes investors confused and lose money on current IEO and ICO projects. Besides, the bounty hunters are very pitiful, when they work for a long time and receive nothing.
sr. member
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September 20, 2019, 05:18:03 AM
In disagree with you on that my friend, lots of bonuses where given for example for early birds
but the only reason why the price never reach a certain level or the coin disappear is because of the holders also
sometimes , they dont know how to hold coins they own, they tend to sell it immediately, because they
think only of profit , that they dont know that it will bring down a coin
jr. member
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September 20, 2019, 05:11:44 AM
as far as I know, a big bonus is one of the attractions for investors, I mean if the project offers a large bonus, many investors will certainly join in it. but the fact is not like that that a big bonus will only bring big losses. maybe at this time only IEO is listed on a large exchange, which gives a real bonus from every project listed there.
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September 20, 2019, 04:43:43 AM
investors might be with interest on offers as referring shifts on number with bonus to gains on extent as collecting with use of returns and collects of profit on decision as expending parts of sums with resource on possession.
jr. member
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Bitcoin
September 20, 2019, 04:24:55 AM
You correctly noticed the manipulation of price and bonuses in some IEOs. Recently, I often see various kinds of manipulations and this undermines confidence in many projects and in IEO as a whole. I drew attention to the fact that some projects do not even manage to build SoftCap, perhaps this method of fundraising will die soon like an ICO and a new concept will appear.
legendary
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September 18, 2019, 07:22:49 PM
#99
Most of ICOs/IEOs teams are trying to raise as much as they can by using any kind of tricks to convince people, lol Smiley
They care about their funds collected, not about investors' ROI.
If they only try to raise money not concern on the future of the project, they could give a big bonus to attract a lot of investors.
That's not good, but at this time, they cannot fool investors anymore since most of them are just doing an ICO which has already become obsolete now.

People are already investing in IEO and for scammers, they need to invest money in an IEO to apply for a listing and the site itself will not easily approve as they will also do their own evaluation based on the requirement, so I'm happy with this new platform, we can get rid of scammers.
legendary
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September 18, 2019, 06:40:16 PM
#98
Most of ICOs/IEOs teams are trying to raise as much as they can by using any kind of tricks to convince people, lol Smiley
They care about their funds collected, not about investors' ROI.
member
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Merit: 11
September 18, 2019, 04:19:21 PM
#97
This is what they use in deceiving investors. Juicy bonuses. If only investors will open their eyes to the truth that these projects are only trying to lure them into a false sense that they are being prudent. Many times the projects have not even begone operations. That is why they lure investors with bonuses instead of an already working platform.
hero member
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SmartFi - EARN, LEND & TRADE
September 18, 2019, 04:18:07 PM
#96
Offering bonuses in the last round, the project eliminates all the privileges that early investors should receive, people who invested in the first rounds are privileged investors, and it always has been.
The project discredits itself by offering additional bonuses at the very end.
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