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Quote from: Mighty_crypt on September 16, 2019, 03:15:39 AM

Only very few projects introduce bonuses for investment either through presale or IEO and still become succesful but now many new projects are just using bonuses to fool investors, i think project should only introduce better bonus offers if the project IEO Or presale is launch in altcoin bullrun time, this way bonuses wont hurt the project

Those projects who are confident that they will be able to sell their coin will not give much bonus to early investors as they know it will also cause a dump if the early investors will decide to sell out for profit. Most of the projects that gives big bonuses are not successful, though it's good that they give bonuses but this is not anymore attractive to majority of investors since it has become a norm to see bonuses that they can also avail in our projects.

When selecting the best project to invest, we look more on the people who manage and develop the project, bonuses and the likes is just a small factor that could affect the project, it's the team's capability which is more important.

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Quote from: Layers318 on September 15, 2019, 09:36:43 PM

Bonuses are not intended to deceive investors. Giving out bonuses is a strategy adopted by every business not only cryptocurrency projects to boost sales. This is the main reason behind the bonuses projects offer during their token sales. And as the sales get to its close, the bonuses are lifted gradually hence it becomes an early bird catch tactics.

Well they really deceive people why? because giving bonuses in order to attract new investors even the whole project is a shit or pump and dump scam. this would lead their investor's losses since IEOs are pretty much pump and dump after the token sale since the tokens are already listed in exchanges unlike in ICOs although this will a good strategy for the company if they have a managed to convince people that have a good project that promises a good outcome. I also think that bonuses will result only on more pump and dump as investors sold their tokens after the IEO and the exchange opens them.

I think the big bonus cannot be said as an indication of a pump and dump project. In IEO there are sometimes new projects that provide bonuses so that investors are interested in investing. Big bonuses are common in marketing new projects and I think the pump and dump project depends on the developer team, whether they will produce a product or not.

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Quote from: Layers318 on September 15, 2019, 09:36:43 PM

Bonuses are not intended to deceive investors. Giving out bonuses is a strategy adopted by every business not only cryptocurrency projects to boost sales. This is the main reason behind the bonuses projects offer during their token sales. And as the sales get to its close, the bonuses are lifted gradually hence it becomes an early bird catch tactics.

Well they really deceive people why? because giving bonuses in order to attract new investors even the whole project is a shit or pump and dump scam. this would lead their investor's losses since IEOs are pretty much pump and dump after the token sale since the tokens are already listed in exchanges unlike in ICOs although this will a good strategy for the company if they have a managed to convince people that have a good project that promises a good outcome. I also think that bonuses will result only on more pump and dump as investors sold their tokens after the IEO and the exchange opens them.

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Only very few projects introduce bonuses for investment either through presale or IEO and still become succesful but now many new projects are just using bonuses to fool investors, i think project should only introduce better bonus offers if the project IEO Or presale is launch in altcoin bullrun time, this way bonuses wont hurt the project

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I can understand if a certain ICO/IEO give discounts during the initial rounds. I have seen steep discounts of up to 50% during the initial rounds. I am still OK with giving discounts in the last round, if there is not enough interest in the market to reach the soft cap level. But then, the price in the final round should not be lower than that in the initial rounds. For example, if the team decides to decrease the price in the final round from 100 Sat to 75 Sat, then they should make sure that those who had purchased the tokens during previous rounds at higher prices should be reimbursed for their additional expenses. What I am saying is that they can't keep the price at 75 Sat for the final round and 85 Sat for the initial rounds.

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Quote from: serjent05 on September 15, 2019, 02:53:52 PM

Quote from: cudora on September 15, 2019, 12:57:29 PM

I feel that it is a great marketing opportunity to attract people to invest on the early stages, the only mistake that a lot of teams are doing is the ridiculous discount or bonus, so people would get twice as much tokens or get a 50 percent discount.

The thing is the one OP told us is that an IEO is offering a discount on the last part of the sales. It is kinda unfair for those who get in early, since it should be the early one who get a huge discount since they parted with their money earlier than the last buyer of the IEO.

Probably that IEO does not met the needed funds on the prior batches then decided to give a 25% discount on the last batch. That sounds plausable on the developers side but it is very disappointing on the investors. They could have adjusted the scheme giving more discounts on those who bought earlier adjusting the token sales count, and give the planned discounts on the target batch. This will give both the early investors and the upcoming one a good deal.

Exactly! The early bird should catch the worm. In this setup, it seems the worm is reserved for the late bird. This is funny. Such arrangement is shady, if not an outright scam.

It could only mean that the IEO has failed to attract investors in its early stages. To make up for the low turnout in the early phases of the IEO, and to hopefully cover up the needed funds for the development which is still highly unmet, they are banking much on their final phase. The huge discount offered in the last batch is their final hope to meet their desired funds. In so doing, they are putting their early investors in a disadvantaged position.

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Indeed they are, and it's big red flag when you see absurd bonus amounts and on absurd times (like at the end of IEO).

Whenever you see such IEO, ignore it unless you like to throw your money in drain (you should send me, if that's the case).

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Bonuses are not intended to deceive investors. Giving out bonuses is a strategy adopted by every business not only cryptocurrency projects to boost sales. This is the main reason behind the bonuses projects offer during their token sales. And as the sales get to its close, the bonuses are lifted gradually hence it becomes an early bird catch tactics.

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Quote from: Kezacky on September 11, 2019, 04:16:19 AM

to be honest that is true, the bonus is just a bait to attract the attention of investors to join in it. well maybe not all of them but in fact a big bonus would result in large losses. I no longer see real benefits when investing in ICO, I think investing in IEO is more profitable now.

Giving bonuses is part of the marketing strategies to attract investors but not an indicator that it will be a successful project unless it do better on the circulation along the market. Do not bother with the bonuses and focus on the purpose and the roadmap of the project. That will affect the supply on the market.

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Quote from: minersday on September 15, 2019, 07:30:37 PM

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Bonuses are only to deceive people

Definitely, bonuses are meant to deceive investors and people from either reading or researching about the purpose and aim of the project. Looking at the crypto ecosystem, people are more concerned about the profits they will make from their investment rather than understanding the true intentions of any crypto project launched. The idea of the project should always be the main focus of any investor.

The current bonus rates are not that kind of dangerous for the team and investors, investors also invest in the project because they see a future perspective. Otherwise, choosing the project with the expected bonus amount per invested amount will deceive the people. The bounty hunters also have a contribution on the dump caused by both parties. I thought bonuses for ICO's only occur after the end of the token sale but it is fresh information for me to see the opinions by other investors which take the last stage bonus. After receiving the bonus tokens, investors shouldn't rush for selling these gift tokens. It is not true that all investors do the similar market trading, some investors also add the bonus tokens to their portfolio for protecting their initial investment amount.

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Bonuses are only to deceive people

Definitely, bonuses are meant to deceive investors and people from either reading or researching about the purpose and aim of the project. Looking at the crypto ecosystem, people are more concerned about the profits they will make from their investment rather than understanding the true intentions of any crypto project launched. The idea of the project should always be the main focus of any investor.

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It isn't even exclusive to crypto. Just in general bonuses sort of deceive people. Companies make more money than they normally would selling more of something at less per item. So in total, they are spending more. The clever thing is, although they are spending more they are feeling better because they think they have got a good idea.

I even find myself buying more groceries then need because you get "6 for the price of 5" deals and things like that. So I too fall victim. But I am a knowing victim ^^

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bonuses should decrease as token sales tends towards ending. however, sometimes the team can decide to make change strategy just to make sure they sell out their tokens. bonuses wont determine the project performance and success.

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Well most times this bonuses aren't to deceive people or investors but rather to attract more people to buy or participate in the sales but when the bonuses becomes too much the negative effect becomes higher than the positive. Also in cases like this, you find token dumping once listed, the dump would be coming from the excess bonus.

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Quote from: cudora on September 15, 2019, 12:57:29 PM

I feel that it is a great marketing opportunity to attract people to invest on the early stages, the only mistake that a lot of teams are doing is the ridiculous discount or bonus, so people would get twice as much tokens or get a 50 percent discount.

the problem is that new projects should not attract investors with discounts and bonuses, but with a really good product that works or by a very strong idea

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Quote from: cudora on September 15, 2019, 12:57:29 PM

I feel that it is a great marketing opportunity to attract people to invest on the early stages, the only mistake that a lot of teams are doing is the ridiculous discount or bonus, so people would get twice as much tokens or get a 50 percent discount.

The thing is the one OP told us is that an IEO is offering a discount on the last part of the sales. It is kinda unfair for those who get in early, since it should be the early one who get a huge discount since they parted with their money earlier than the last buyer of the IEO.

Probably that IEO does not met the needed funds on the prior batches then decided to give a 25% discount on the last batch. That sounds plausable on the developers side but it is very disappointing on the investors. They could have adjusted the scheme giving more discounts on those who bought earlier adjusting the token sales count, and give the planned discounts on the target batch. This will give both the early investors and the upcoming one a good deal.

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During the very strong activity of the ico company market two years ago, each project provided an average of 50% discount on the purchase of a coin to all investors. Each investor sought to be among the borderline number of people who could buy coins during token sale. If in previous years the discount on tokens gave good guarantees and opportunities for profit, today the 50 percent discount is more reassuring for investors, because in case of failure, he will not lose a lot of money, because he did not pay the full price for token.

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Discount is something which a retailer can give on the product which he brought at a certain price. Here with projects, they themselves setting up a price and gives 25-50% bonus based on the levels. This is totally wrong and false information from projects.
I think its just a marketing strategy to sell the tokens, as investors get attracted or inclined to buy the tokens.

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So long as the earlier bonuses was higher or equal to 25%, it's fine. But if they had no bonus, then changed the terms at the last moment so the last round provided a 25% bonus, then it's shady. Actually any changes at all to the terms after an IEO has started (unless its minor things) is kind of shady.

But bonuses in themselves isn't shady ... they are pretty common. But if I saw an IEO adding a big bonus at the last moment, I'd stay away -- all it tells me is that nobody is buying their coins and the devs are getting desperate.

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I feel that it is a great marketing opportunity to attract people to invest on the early stages, the only mistake that a lot of teams are doing is the ridiculous discount or bonus, so people would get twice as much tokens or get a 50 percent discount.

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