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member
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September 18, 2019, 03:42:29 PM
#95
Exchanges with more assurance of better returns, such as the big ones among others do not offer bonuses. Instead, they just simply sell at the price they feel is suitable. Bonus or no bonus, it does not add anything, rather it might bring more doubt about the project.
If the team is sincere in what they are offering, there is no need for bonus.
jr. member
Activity: 182
Merit: 2
September 18, 2019, 03:29:17 PM
#94
Only a project with intention of scamming investors will give more bonus to last round of their sales, it means they desperate and only want to sale more tokens no matter how cheap because they have no more use for the tokens
sr. member
Activity: 1330
Merit: 289
September 18, 2019, 03:22:38 PM
#93
Honestly any IEO giving bonus at last round doesn't make any sense. It makes early investors of the IEO regret why they bought early, thinking they took advantage of early rounds IEO bonus. I think giving bonuses at early stages which reduce as stages progress is cool, the reverse is not OK.
sr. member
Activity: 2240
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September 18, 2019, 03:13:00 PM
#92
Not only the bonuses for big investors during the private sale but also the size of fund allotted for bounty, anything above 5% can be too generous. Market condition ATM does not give such chances for any project to give too much bonuses if you are sure your product and tokenomics could generate profits for any investor either in the long or short run.
legendary
Activity: 2982
Merit: 1028
September 18, 2019, 03:06:59 PM
#91
Large bunoses will only mean investors will receive large amount of token with less payment. Now if we look into this after exchange listing, these bonuses will be prone to dumping which will lead to price drops of the coin.
Bonuses can quickly turned into profits most of investors loves to get this from introductory projects, it's a rewards from taking the risk participating by funding the project, most cases those early investors sell out after the token being listed to any exchange causing for the value of the coin to be dumped. Though this offers captured investors attentions but from the situations right now, things are being analyze and wise investors are not easily being fallen from this move by the developers.
jr. member
Activity: 266
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CurioInvest [IEO Live]
September 18, 2019, 02:57:16 PM
#90
Now there are a lot of projects that are aimed at bonuses that they offer to lure people.
After which people find themselves deceived.
Despite the fact that they honestly complied with the conditions.
I think it’s very important to check the developers to start trusting them.
hero member
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September 18, 2019, 02:39:19 PM
#89
To be sincere, the bonuses are only to deceived people but a marketing strategy used by almost all project or company and it the investors that needs to have adequate knowledge to select aa future promising project. However, we can only say a project deceive people when new bonus is high than the previous bonus.
full member
Activity: 2128
Merit: 180
September 17, 2019, 07:39:45 PM
#88
I agree with you that the offer of a large bonus does not mean that the project will succeed or the bonus you receive in accordance with the project agreement, I think a large bonus is like a trick to attract large investments in a project.
If you study marketing then you will understand that its very normal and its one way to promote any products or services. We are fooled not just here but in real life as well. If you are investing just for the bonus then you will fail, invest on a good project even if there’s no bonus because its worth your money.
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September 17, 2019, 07:36:19 PM
#87
Large bunoses will only mean investors will receive large amount of token with less payment. Now if we look into this after exchange listing, these bonuses will be prone to dumping which will lead to price drops of the coin.
full member
Activity: 588
Merit: 101
September 17, 2019, 06:52:53 PM
#86
Actually, every project that offers a bonus, of course they have thought in advance how the bonus they offer is not detrimental, so they designed it very well in order to attract investors by investors, so if I think the bonus is only limited to the lure, the edges are only an element of fraud. but this we rarely realize.
Call it a marketing strategy. The developer also wants to benefit from more fundraising for project development and other operations. Naturally, to attract the attention of investors by giving a number of bonuses, investors can get profits, as well as developers. All of this has been taken into account by the authorized team, for the sake of the smooth process.
sr. member
Activity: 1484
Merit: 253
September 17, 2019, 06:23:06 PM
#85
Actually if I were an investor I would choose an IEO exchangd that doesn't have bonuses like Binance, well little bonus is okay but a huge may lead to instant dump due to investor's extra tokens. Take notice of some IEO which have unrealistic bonuses and when they launch during the trading price will not be so high inlike huge IEOs launchpad.

This has made it bad at all times once trading commences, and I think that's the worst situations were about to face now. Definitely all investors mostly hesitated to join after hearing stories like that. Bonuses isn't bad for an IEO, but as a legit investor we beed to find it productive once the project launches finally at trading sites.
legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1001
September 17, 2019, 03:51:29 PM
#84
I agree with you that the offer of a large bonus does not mean that the project will succeed or the bonus you receive in accordance with the project agreement, I think a large bonus is like a trick to attract large investments in a project.
Huge bonuses are offered to attract more investors and this promotion will bring success in the IEO. If there are two kinds of the token sale, will you choose the token sale with bonus or without a bonus? Large investments can be a consequence of the offered bonuses by the team. Otherwise, the investors will not prefer to invest in the project in my opinion.

That is unusual. The bonus usually given on the early stage of the sale.
Most of ICO/IEO i know were running with no bonus at the end of period sale.
We should be careful with the marketing strategies to invite more investors.

The early investors take the juice of the token promotional campaigns and these investors don't agree with the lock period of the bonus which gives on the early stage of the token sale. The marketing part is a big fiction by the team in order to encourage more and more investors.  The famous people are hired by the teams for developing this rule but some projects failed hard on this way as I suspected.
hero member
Activity: 2702
Merit: 704
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September 17, 2019, 01:50:57 PM
#83
I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs.
Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny.
The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers.
If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis.
We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.


I have always been against bonuses when it comes to icos or any other similar form of raising money, in my opinion the only fair way to distribute the tokens is to not set an arbitrary price for them and just give the tokens according to the amount of money that each investor put into the project, this way you get a real idea of what is the demand for that token and the possibilities of the token crashing will be very low.

But obviously the solution is too logical and most likely will limit the amount of money that projects can get out of investors and while this will be good for investors in general we know that developers want to get as much money as possible even if they do not need it.
member
Activity: 420
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September 17, 2019, 12:42:06 PM
#82
I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs.
Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny.
The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers.
If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis.
We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.


I have been cheated by a lot of ICOs / IEOs on bonus issues. Because of that, we should be careful when deciding on a project. Especially with the bounty hunter. What is really scary is that you took part and put a lot of effort into that project and what you got back was tricked. Be wary of such projects


hero member
Activity: 1372
Merit: 503
September 17, 2019, 12:17:55 PM
#81
Actually if I were an investor I would choose an IEO exchangd that doesn't have bonuses like Binance, well little bonus is okay but a huge may lead to instant dump due to investor's extra tokens. Take notice of some IEO which have unrealistic bonuses and when they launch during the trading price will not be so high inlike huge IEOs launchpad.
legendary
Activity: 2338
Merit: 1124
September 17, 2019, 12:06:41 PM
#80
Bonuses are not intended to deceive investors. Giving out bonuses is a strategy adopted by every business not only cryptocurrency projects to boost sales. This is the main reason behind the bonuses projects offer during their token sales. And as the sales get to its close, the bonuses are lifted gradually hence it becomes an early bird catch tactics.
In a case where the bonus becomes extremely too much, it shows to me that the project itself has no value and the project just placed that value on it to be able to easily extract money from investor, and the way they will easily get to investor is to give them high bonuses, yes I agree with you that discounts are a way to help the project easily get to investor on time, but using huge discount when they know that it can easily crashes the market when investors dump it on exchange is a huge scam to me.

Huge scam in the sense that they deliberately did that so that the crash of the project can be accused on dumping and then the developer can exit the market easily, which is why you see most projects crashing and you see the team not even worrying about it at all.
jr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 4
CurioInvest [IEO Live]
September 16, 2019, 11:35:27 PM
#79
Indeed they are, and it's big red flag when you see absurd bonus amounts and on absurd times (like at the end of IEO).

Whenever you see such IEO, ignore it unless you like to throw your money in drain (you should send me, if that's the case).
Bonuses are normally reduced as the token sales near its end. There is every reason to be alarmed when the opposite of the story is experienced, thus when the projects decides to give huge and weird bonuses at the end of the token sales. This could be that the token sales is not going well with the project and that have decided to increase the bonuses to lure investors.
hero member
Activity: 2814
Merit: 576
September 16, 2019, 08:50:57 AM
#78
Most likely there is a reason why they devs or project owners give it not just to deceive people but it also a complement for gamblers. But we need to be careful for this cause not all of them who are offering bonuses will have a good intention. However, it is in our part to evaluate their project either a thing to believe or a way to fool people which it mostly happens at this time.
member
Activity: 560
Merit: 10
September 16, 2019, 08:30:00 AM
#77
Bonus up to 100 percent is really really bad trend. It is the trend of providing bonus during IEO or ICO, which largely contribute to dumping price of coins on exchanges. Investors are in hurry to sell off their coins bought with high amount of bonus, thus dumping their price. So this trend should come to an end for the growth of crypto projects.
newbie
Activity: 174
Merit: 0
September 16, 2019, 07:34:03 AM
#76
I just checked an ANN thread. There was a post regarding the last round of the IEO. They were offering 25% discount to IEO participants. I wanted to post on that thread. But instead of posting on that thread, I decided to create a new topic as there are many same IEOs.
Offering bonus on the last round of an ICO/IEO is really funny.
The bonus is valuable only if there are some other participants that sell the tokens at higher prices. I cannot understand bonus on the last round of an IEO. Even if they give 1000% bonus to investors, it doesn't differ. The bonus on the last round must be zero. These kind of IEOs try to deceive participants. It might be true even if we call them scammers.
If a token price is 100 satoshis and they give all participants 25% discount. Investors shouldn't be happy that they have bought the tokens at 75 satoshis. Because the price is 75 satoshis not 100 satoshis.
We can say the price is 100 satoshis if there will be a next round and some people buy the tokens at 100 satoshis.


the essence of the bonuses is to entice the interest of investors and definitely they will follow their path like zombies. at last, when the token is listed on an exchange they will then realised that they are cheated
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