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Topic: Bonuspool - SCAMMER NEILL ROELOFSE - page 11. (Read 22220 times)

hero member
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September 05, 2012, 09:10:51 PM
#9
I kind of have mixed feelings about this. Waiting until Sept 30th means mining on bonuspool for 3 straight months with 0 payouts. That is a HUGE risk for miners. On the other hand, the whole pirate defaulting thing ruined the 110% payouts and put Clipse in a situation where he doesn't have enough bitcoins to pay miners since his funds are locked up. I am sticking with Clipse and continuing to mine. As long as he lives up to his 130% payout, I will be happy. From the talks I have had with him on IRC and such, he seems legit. Damn risks, bitcoins are killing me Tongue
sr. member
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September 05, 2012, 05:54:39 PM
#8
PS. there is no special powers for locking pool threads, anyone who started a thread can lock it.

Sorry I wasn't aware of that.
hero member
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September 05, 2012, 05:26:49 PM
#7
I had an agreement with Clipse via email to have mine paid prior to the pirate collapse, but this was not honoured (yes that is spelt correctly I am from New Zealand) and will not be after I emailed complaints.

However, I would mine with Clipse again, but only with an instant payout model. (Why not at 130%??).

I think the 130% announcement, being able to lock the pool thread, combined with this bad news on payments is alarming.
He should be taking his own risk, not pushing it on to miners unknown to them.

I cant agree with everyone during this.

You requested withdrawal and few hours later all funds were locked up unable to withdraw from bitcoinmax. At the time you requested I did request large withdrawal but then the BTCST news hit. If you want to see that as unfair then so be it but use your judgement and understand why I couldnt honour it. If I honoured your withdrawal request then Id have to honoured everyone and there isnt enough BTC to go around at the time, do you really think you have more right to your withdrawal request than everyone else ?

You can take it as you want and I tried to explain to you over and over via email but you seem to just ignore what I am telling you.

I cant please everyone during this payment stage and clearly I am not pleasing you but explaining the situation over and over to you and others isnt going to change anything even if I could.

I know im going to take more and more flack from this, some will hate me, some will understand and support me, I cant change what happened.

PS. there is no special powers for locking pool threads, anyone who started a thread can lock it.
sr. member
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September 05, 2012, 03:31:50 PM
#6
I had an agreement with Clipse via email to have mine paid prior to the pirate collapse, but this was not honoured (yes that is spelt correctly I am from New Zealand) and will not be after I emailed complaints.

However, I would mine with Clipse again, but only with an instant payout model. (Why not at 130%??).

I think the 130% announcement, being able to lock the pool thread, combined with this bad news on payments is alarming.
He should be taking his own risk, not pushing it on to miners unknown to them.
hero member
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Merit: 502
September 05, 2012, 03:18:01 AM
#5
I tried to avoid new speculation on the subject since what I stated in the old thread is the only way forward to deal with outstanding payments.

No discussion will make me repay coins faster than what I wrote in the Bonuspool thread and I prefer that if users dont understand the process as outlined in that thread they should rather not signup/mine in the mean time, I dont want to confuse/upset more miners until everything is sorted.

When/if BTCST payout there would be even more BTC and early repayments done, but right now this seems like an uphill battle and I dont rely on this right now.

I do appreciate everyone who is sticking through the this period, once we get to the other side of this ordreal I will see how many users remain and if its still viable to continue at that point.


full member
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September 05, 2012, 02:53:39 AM
#4
If you start right now you will get 130% PPS. Coins will be paid at the end of October.

I don't think that's too bad if you have some coins and can afford to wait two months. Signing up is done by PMing Clipse. Instructions are in OP of the actual Bonuspool thread.

I have 27btc locked in bonuspool not including interest rates.

Carefuly thinking about the past weeks of august I'm unfortunately not wery optimistic about my coins, I'm assuming I will never get them.
Clipse has always been wery nice when writing to him but this is internet and I don't know him personaly.

It is up to everyone to choose to believe or not to believe what is written in the bonuspool thread.
If what is written is true I would be wery disappointed the way business was handled.

So basicaly Bonuspool owes it's miners BTC and the clients that buy the BTC, if this is true it's unfortunately a wery bad business model.

Now as I wrote initaly I'm not expecting to ever get my coins back, even If I do who knows, maybe the bitcoins value will be worthless compared to USD, bitcoins are wery volatile and things can change wery fast in days, weeks and months (to better or worse).

I don't know if what I wrote makes sense, english is not may main language so excuse me.
sr. member
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September 05, 2012, 02:34:49 AM
#3
If you start right now you will get 130% PPS. Coins will be paid at the end of October.

I don't think that's too bad if you have some coins and can afford to wait two months. Signing up is done by PMing Clipse. Instructions are in OP of the actual Bonuspool thread.
legendary
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Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 04, 2012, 11:43:19 PM
#2
I don't understand Bonuspool these days, the terms are confusing and change frequently.

Can someone explain them in a couple of short, clear, and precise sentences or paragraphs?

I'm genuinely interested in going back, but want to know exactly what I'm getting into.

Thanks in advance!
sr. member
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September 04, 2012, 04:25:38 PM
#1
Hi,

After PMing with some fellow miners I decided to open a thread about Bonuspool since the original is locked by Clipse(Nothing wrong with that considering pools current situation). We need a different thread for all the speculation.

(thread will be locked if conversation gets off topic or the word 'ponzi' or 'scam' is mentioned too many times)

Also, if you are not mining at Bonuspool, I'm not sure we need your opinion.


UPDATED 22th October


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/clipse-118353

Clipse stole ~1800 BTC from his miners. He now claims that he was hacked and everything is gone. No police reports scanned, no extra info given. He just says "I'm sorry but you won't see your coins"

Clipse = Neill Roelofse
10 May 1983
Cape Town
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