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legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
Quoting and bolding the important parts for the feedback I'm leaving, so that people can read my reference link.

Hi All,

Just want to report that the bootstrap coindev is a scammer. He scammed me of my legitimate winnings of 0.33 BTC just because i kept questioning him on his delayed payments. he publicly states that he will not pay my due which is totally un-acceptable by me.

You can check the thread of the giveaway here:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/free-guessing-game-chance-to-win-1-btc-1018857

This is how it went down. There were 3 winners of this competition (well, actually 2 but i agreed to share the prize with the 3rd person).

1) Dev promises payment on 23rd April, which never happens, i question him by PM, but no reply to my PM.
2) After a lot of prodding and follow up posts by me and the fellow winners and other community members, Dev finally announces that once his coin is stable, he will make the payout.
3) Coin stays perfectly stable by 28th of April, but no payout, i again question his intentions on the thread. He also mentions on his thread that we will be paid by the end of the month, so i patiently wait till today.
4) I post on his thread giving him fair warning that i will have to report him for not paying if the payouts are not made by end of the day today as a heads-up, i case he forgets!
5) Today he makes payment to the other two winners and threatens that he will report me to the mods! Wow, now that is un-believable!

I find this highly irresponsible by the dev that he penalizes me for raising a legitimate concern and would request the community to boycott him and his coin. How on earth do you expect to trust a character like this, who penalizes you because you ask for what is legitimately yours and for which he has failed to payout multiple times according to his promise?

I would request all to look into the validity of my case and support me please as this is a grave injustice done by the dev. If you need proofs of all discussions, you can see the thread and i can also post his PM here for all to see.  Undecided Cry


Edit: This is the thread where he declines paying me my due:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11243401

if you're aware of anything you say and do, you'll be able to recognize when your actions bother or anger someone else & u need then to change ur persistent behavior and begin learning self-control & respecting others
u did not handle ur position with care, and today did reinforce the inappropriate behavior rather than show a lil bit patience

i'm suggesting u get a work, girl, take a fresh breath & listen to some relaxing tracks
u got zero i.e nothing
i won't further return to the delusion topics like this one
cheers


Allen
legendary
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Hello,

Since the main thread is locked, we would like to request you BootstrapCoinDev to contact us regarding your coin and it's inflated supply.
If you have not noticed, your coin and its market have been disabled for most of the day.
We also sent you a PM requesting you contact us earlier today however we have not got a reply despite you posting in this thread.

We will continue to await you to contact us.

#EmpoEX Team

Why would a coin developer lock their coin thread?

Also, I can't help but notice that you don't list CLAM on your exchange. It's one of the highest volume altcoins, rarely out of the top 10 list at Poloniex.
sr. member
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Merit: 264
Hello,

Since the main thread is locked, we would like to request you BootstrapCoinDev to contact us regarding your coin and it's inflated supply.
If you have not noticed, your coin and its market have been disabled for most of the day.
We also sent you a PM requesting you contact us earlier today however we have not got a reply despite you posting in this thread.

We will continue to await you to contact us.

#EmpoEX Team
legendary
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Merit: 1000


both retard and a little stupid bitch are being reported to theymos

retard got another portion of feedback from me

look up it here

Dude.

NO. ONE. CARES. About your fight about that one BTC. Just focus on the project, the coin and settle this like grown men.

Just explain that moneysupply.
legendary
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full member
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both retard and a little stupid bitch are being reported to theymos

retard got another portion of feedback from me

look up it here
full member
Activity: 420
Merit: 105
So if you could explain what happened there, delete all that crap about from Mickey and just focus on the coin, we're all good. Maybe write a (decent) statement without fucks, bitches, etc.

Just as a serious dev.

Or not. It's your call.

Yeah, I'd second that.

We all know trolls will be trolls and these things get out of hand quickly on here.

Maybe first start explaining the additional ~3M coins. If you can do that credibly you got the trust of your community and they might back you up.
legendary
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So if you could explain what happened there, delete all that crap about from Mickey and just focus on the coin, we're all good. Maybe write a (decent) statement without fucks, bitches, etc.

Just as a serious dev.

Or not. It's your call.
legendary
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NAV Coin [NAV]
Who cares about that personal drama, we just wanna know why there are 7M coins instead of 4M. That's where all this dumping stuff is about.

Exactly. Nobody cares about that shit storm with micky.

@Dev as a PR Manager myself I can't understand how can You risk Your project for some personal fight with another guy. If You want to run a serious business - avoid such dramas.
I'm not judging if micky acted well or not - I don't care about that. Your job as a dev is to keep things going well and keep Community calm about their investments, not getting into some shitty fights on bitcointalk.

Regards

~ Strugg

legendary
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Who cares about that personal drama, we just wanna know why there are 7M coins instead of 4M. That's where all this dumping stuff is about.
full member
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Hello, Bootstrap Community
Hello, dooglus
Hello, bitch
Hello, everyone

This is my official statement. This is my opinion. This is my right. This is my thoughts. Enjoy.






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@dooglus

Well, at the very best it's entirely misleading. You twisted your perception about the way our discussion has been from early start in April. I believe that objectivity is different for you because you either haven't spent much time for reading through my honest post history or you perceive the point in quite a different way, thus giving people slightly different vision with which to draw conclusions. And of course you seem pretty familiar with "dick move". I do assume you are also familiar with everything that has the word "dick" in it.

Let's start. And you will need to scroll the page a lil up and down just to re-read in case you forgot something, just click on the scroll bar from the right-most edge of your browser and drag it down. I'm saying this just because you seem to have a trouble with absorbing all the needed information from my posts so would be much easier if you get all the needed stuff in one post.

Few questions:

1) Why do you judge people on the evidence of bitch's perverted opinion given that he has received a portion of a negative trust from already scammed bitcointalk users? Do you know what kind of person i am really?

2) You must be proud yourself thinking that much activity on bitcointalk forums gives you the authority to determine honest people's right and wrong motives & misbehaviors & publicly falsely accuse an innocent member like me of not keeping up with my promises. I looked up from your posts history and your account didn't seem to be a shill or a scammy sockpuppet and that's the exact reason i asked you about your childish enthusiasm. I am curious what keeps you motivated at being so disrespectful and subjective.

3) Can you explain this:

"Has threatened me that: "u should immediately remove the negative feedback and explain to me right now what does that mean
else u will be reported for false allegations within seconds"

What? Seriously, what? Well, okay. Now, read carefully then re-read and re-read again the following claim. Bear in mind this is being addressed to you, dooglus:

A person, especially an established member like you, who falsely, without valid proof, accuses me of something, such as a statement or act i said or did must at very least put a question concerning his decision forward in explanation of observed facts. You can't accuse whoever you like, you can't make a damaging statements about people you have nothing do with, you can't just shoot at each person with slanders and false offenses, you can't allegedly damage the reputation of mine in the opinion of others, you can't besmirch and defame faith of Bootstrap followers. An established member like you should be advised that we are keeping this afloat on a centralized forum where the one with +49 repo ought to judge internal conflicts thus badly impacting on numerous parties not engaged in skirmish i.e buyers, investors, bagholders, believers in Bootstrap development. I can't believe that a legendary member can be capable of such inhumanity to other people that have put their hard earned monies in my project and are still being firmly of the belief that its developer is a trustworthy and reliable person. How old are you? Actually i thought it was a joke, so i asked you to contact me directly and explain to me shortly why you are showing up such a disgraceful behavior.

Regarding the "random person".

Random person can be referred to as someone whom you don't know, never met and never had a business with. That person is called random person. 99.99% people on the internet are random persons. Subject is closed.

Next. Never ever use a bold marker to highlight anything from my posts. If you speak against me, if you dare to find any unexisting misleadings in my posts then you will be treated equally no matter what your circumstances. I am responsible for every letter i has wrote so far. I remember all my words, all what i've ever wrote on this or any other forums.

Next.

8b19dbd702ec6066286114adf968589990b9a56c93eebfbff0cf275d42d91f70

0a064b57b3b9b41edfb3f55553e1ba66e655742c3e2c289959edc3798499c9a0

In this quote you can find the addresses provided by fantoos & punggawa via pm - they have shown the greatest accuracy in guessing the exact amount of collected monies.

hey
will send winners bounties as soon as i sort out the issues with the blockchain
no need to worry, 0.333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333 awards will be funded when everything settles down & we successfully move to the new chain
everyone will get their bounties until the end of the month perhaps today/tomorrow, when i solve all the tech issues
punggawa & fantoos pm me with ur btc addresses


Guessing contest can be accessed here

Look up on the transactions to verify if each of them corresponds to the winner's bitcoin addresses.

acting like a kid? then u deserve to be treated like a kid
u r not permitted to warn me for anything go warn ur kids instead
when the others have patience u persist & keep going down in flames & insisting on me being toxic to my promises
moaning over 60 usd over again over again over again over again one direction won't turn the things upside down & bounty being paid off more rapidly if theres no my good will
ur last episode of odd behaviour in my thread can be considered nothing else but a desperate attempt to regain ur account standing as u've alredy got a dozen portion of negative trust
stop groaning over ur abstract broken faith in few buck that ain't going to be vindicated cause u think i'm still doubtful whether i should give away 60 bux tips or not whatever i don't care
for sure i'm not
i guess only after few minutes of steamy ponderation its not quite hard to come to the extraordinary conclusion that i'm back & fixed the chain & doing my best to over deliver the prescribed promises in a huge way
any heads ups why wouldn't i gladly pack my ico bags & run away living the life of my dreams?
bear in mind theres tremendous things in works which r shockingly bigger & wider than u could've ever imagined
be respectful & nice & show a lil bit patience next time
ur last comments should be wiped off within few minutes
countdown has started
i see u wanna grab ur 60 bux & go spend them on a fancy knick-knack for ur play station
from now on, individual flames & animal sized harmlessly eccentric trollposts are not longer permitted in my thread
and stop using idiotic smiles & send me dumb pms
i'm banning u from receiving a bounty

my decision: punggawa & fantoos each will receive 0.5BTC tip & they shouldn't share tips with ^

micky gtfo from my thread
subject is closed
all posts further bumping it will be considered as trolling and reported to forum mods

And oh yeah, if i did not keep posting this on your threads, the other two guys would also have not got their payments and we all would have been waiting forever!


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11243521
what does this mean btw?
they got their bounties cause i decided so
i decided so & i did
if i'm feeling a need to reward a randomly chosen person i'll do that
if i decide to award anyone with some bts no one stops me from doing that
no one is talking to me like this
As soon as the server time switches over to 1st may, if the payment is not in our accounts, it is our right to open a scam accusation and leave you negative feedback.
if i'd followed through on my initial decision it would be pretty funny to send anything to a scammy jackanapes like u
bounties promised = bounties paid lol
i've a right to resign my decision & choose to whom should i send anything
u're talking pretty much and don't mind listening
i'm not sure what ambitions r u trying to achieve by keeping this up lol
u will get nothing
zero
nothing
u're refused
u're not welcomed here
i'm considering this discussion absolutely meaningless
whether u receive ur bounties or not its up to me & my good will
why would i use shills to avoid paying off the bounties? i just deny & its over
any questions?
bored
i have a plenty of work
have a nice day



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Thank you for being just an observer, thank you for having a time to read through. I hope in future bitch will reveal his inner readiness to do good & act like a good man & avoid from being a daring bitch.
hero member
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Error 404: there seems to be nothing here.
It wasn't late to pay him when I told him to pay micky but NO! He wants to prove that he isn't trustworthy along with his coin!
There was no reason to disrespect micky and there was  time left to pay micky and there is still time left until some investor sees this thread and says "Oh! Another Scammer" and no one invests!

Think well Dev 0.33BTC might cost you a lot more in the future Smiley
hero member
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BSP Dev lost all credibility when he acted like a child in his reponse to Micky123

He is the kind of knob that needs to be nuked from this forum and the whole crypto scene
legendary
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Wow, this thread is an impressive massacre of the English language.

I like how this "dev" has now set a 7 BTC sell order at 495 sats (surely its his?) and is on the locked thread, saying his BTC is transferring and he will eat that wall any minute. 

Buy that wall before its too late!

Grin

Let me reiterate what I have been saying about this issue. I am not sure if the coin is a scam, however the way the dev treats people is not right and there is no guarantee that he will be civil in case people invest in his coin and ask questions about it later, if he can be so abusive to a person who never once lost his cool during these interactions, then you have to wonder if that person is capable of running a coin. A person who has the arrogance to question an upstanding scam busting member of this community and with the same trademark arrogance to threaten the said member surely does not deserve a place on this forum. Thanks for taking the time to read the saga.
hero member
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Wow, this thread is an impressive massacre of the English language.

I like how this "dev" has now set a 7 BTC sell order at 495 sats (surely its his?) and is on the locked thread, saying his BTC is transferring and he will eat that wall any minute. 

Buy that wall before its too late!

Grin
sr. member
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Pre-sale - March 18
if you're aware of anything you say and do, you'll be able to recognize when your actions bother or anger someone else & u need then to change ur persistent behavior and begin learning self-control & respecting others
u did not handle ur position with care, and today did reinforce the inappropriate behavior rather than show a lil bit patience
i'm suggesting u get a work, girl, take a fresh breath & listen to some relaxing tracks
u got zero i.e nothing
i won't further return to the delusion topics like this one

You offered prizes presumably in an attempt to gain attention for your coin.

Then you didn't pay out the prizes, because one of the winners complained that you didn't pay out the prizes, and that "bothered" you?

Maybe u need to change ur behavior.
HuhHuhHuh??
what's ur agenda? so after i've sent my own monies i.e promised 1 BTC bounty to random persons on the internet i.e winners someone named dooglus comes & leaves me negative trust?
is that supposed to be a joke? do u know me? give me any particular reason why would someone one the forums occasionally leave another member a negative trust?
is everything alright with u? what's the motivation? did u even read the thread? r u a shill lol?
u should immediately remove the negative feedback and explain to me right now what does that mean
else u will be reported for false allegations within seconds
you probably deserved it from the stuff I read, seems like you did
legendary
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Thank you for sticking up for me dooglus. You just need to look at the negative feedback posted by the dev to understand what a low life he really is. Calling me such names even though I have been treating him with respect all along. I dont think he understands the meaning of being civil. In light of the horrible feedback and his personal attack on me through his feedback. I would request for one of the admins to ban him as he is clearly not worth being on this amazing forum. I need more community support. Thanks to all who understand my position. This has caused me a lot of mental agony and i may take a break from the forum for a couple of days. Edit: rofl he closed both the threads as he is clearly losing support over this issue. If he is not guilty, why would he close his thread? All his supporters including the numb nuts hrt needs to just see the negative feedback he posted on my account to understand this mentally sick dev. He claimed he was not going to reply to my posts but he still does!! Why? Clearly when someone is guilty they try to find ways and means to justify themselves and this is the stage he is in atm. At this point the btc does not interest me anymore. I pray for the dev sick mind to be healed.
legendary
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Again, I can't quote because you now seem to have locked your other thread too, but you appear to be threatening OP, and confirming again that you intend to renege on your deal.

Your whole post is a great example of how you deal with people so I'll include a screenshot of it in its entirety. People following the link from my trust feedback will be able to judge for themselves whether they want to be on the receiving end of such abuse:

legendary
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April 30, 2015, 11:21:24 PM
#13
what's ur agenda? so after i've sent my own monies i.e promised 1 BTC bounty to random persons on the internet i.e winners someone named dooglus comes & leaves me negative trust?
is that supposed to be a joke? do u know me? give me any particular reason why would someone one the forums occasionally leave another member a negative trust?
is everything alright with u? what's the motivation? did u even read the thread? r u a shill lol?
u should immediately remove the negative feedback and explain to me right now what does that mean
else u will be reported for false allegations within seconds

So I took some screenshots of the contest thread to back up and explain my position. I couldn't quote them since you appear to have locked the thread. The images link to the individual posts, assuming they don't get deleted.

1 of 3, in which you promise a prize to whoever guesses closest:



2 of 3, in which you announce the winners, and they agree to split the prize as you suggested:



3 of 3, in which you confirm the winners and their prizes:



Needless to say, it's a week later, you didn't pay micky123, and have rudely stated that you have no intention of doing so.

I hope this makes my position clearer, and explains why I wouldn't trust you in the future, and why I would recommend others not to trust you either.
legendary
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April 30, 2015, 11:01:42 PM
#12
HuhHuhHuh??
what's ur agenda? so after i've sent my own monies i.e promised 1 BTC bounty to random persons on the internet i.e winners someone named dooglus comes & leaves me negative trust?
is that supposed to be a joke? do u know me? give me any particular reason why would someone one the forums occasionally leave another member a negative trust?
is everything alright with u? what's the motivation? did u even read the thread? r u a shill lol?
u should immediately remove the negative feedback and explain to me right now what does that mean
else u will be reported for false allegations within seconds

I left you negative feedback because you ran a competition and failed to pay one of the winners. I think my feedback makes that clear.

To answer your questions:

I have no agenda. If I have misunderstood anything, please help me understand. As I understood it the competition was meant to pay out the players who won, not "random persons". It's not meant to be a joke. People leave each other negative trust when they see them acting in a way that appears untrustworthy. Everything's fine with me. My motivation is to correctly identify people who break their word, so that others can be warned. I read lots of threads. Which one are you asking about? I'm not a shill.

I think that should clear everything up. If you would like me to review my trust feedback of you, maybe you could address the points brought up in this thread's OP here.

Note how I replied to you. Reasonably. Seeking resolution. Answering questions.

I could have just said:

Quote
i won't further return to the delusion topics like this one
cheers

but that would be kind of a dick move, wouldn't it?
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