Topic: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟 (New Price List 04/2021) - page 128. (Read 531509 times)

hello sampy i would like to know if there is a way to get a trial copy of this for a few days so i may try this before i buy it due to not having a job and only having usb miners sometimes its hard to get the ammount of your product

Hi CAT users, i will start improve tips & tricks sections starting from my private support messages inbox.

First improvements is :

- How Does a Ping-Pong Order Work?

In a Ping-Pong cycle there are some factors involved :
- The User who wants to create orders
- The automatic Ping-Pong Algorithm
- The Exchange Trading system that match buyers/sellers orders

A Ping is an order of Buy or Sell Type. In case of Dynamic Algoritm is free to move (automatic-recreation if needed) according to the ping-pong algorithm parameters (ex : price limits)
A Pong is an order of Sell or Buy Type (Opposite from the original Ping type). It is created by CAT after a Trade occurs over a Ping.
The difference between Ping and Pong is that Pong have 1 more attribute that restrict the possibility about price movements and order recreation : the Reference Price.
The reference price is the price of the Trade Occurs over the Ping.
The Pong price is calculated considering Ping Trade Price + % Gain Requested By The User + Current Market Price.
Calculated price must guaranteed at least the % Gain set by the user.

This is the workflow of a Ping Pong Order. Loop is INFINITE (but of course you can set stop conditions).
USER Can Anytime Add Orders or Edit The Buy/Sell Pool.

- Buy/Sell Pool (Automatic)/Ping-Pong Order Creation (User) -> Ping -> TRADE (Reference Price) -> Pong (At least % GAIN) -> GAIN -> TOTAL (Minus Fees) IN BUY/SELL POOL
and then loop restart

Explanation with Examples (for explation simplification without considering FEES and User Parameters) :

Buy/Sell Pool : Values are expressed as , partner is the currency wich you express the Price (or Total Value)
Example : on BTC/LTC, LTC is , BTC is
Every Pool Lookup (that could occurs ever X lookups) CAT will try to use 100% of the Pool to create a new Order.
Buy Pool to create new Buy Orders
Sell Pool to create new Sell Orders
You can limit this behaviours setting Pool Limits about Qty and Pool Activations conditions.

A simple example (without considering limits and user parameters) :
Sell Pool 0.3 BTC, Best Market Sell Price is 0.00013 -> 0.3/0.00013 = 2307 new QTY -> New Sell Order will be Sell [email protected]
BUY Pool 0.01 BTC, Best Market Buy Price is 0.00012 -> 0.01/0.00012 = 83 new QTY -> New Buy Order will be Sell [email protected]

Now a Trade Occurs over your Order Sell [email protected]
Let's say it's a partial trade : Sell [email protected]
We consider a Gain of 5% 
So, REFERENCE PRICE Is 0.00013 -> 0.00013 - 5% (In case of Sell Pong it will be REFERENCE PRICE + % GAIN) = 0,0001365 New Pong Price
So New Order Pong will be Sell [email protected]

When a Trade Will Occurs Over the Pong You will have a GAIN expressed by CAT as
- % (percentage difference between price)
and
(Total Orders Difference - (Buy + Sell Fees))

The TOTAL Value (Qty x Price) could be reuse (100% or Part of it) into the Buy/Sell Pool to create new PING ORDERS.

In a Ping-Pong Cycle, each order will have his indipendent "life"
Partial trades will generate more ping and more gains.

Example :

Ping Sell 1000@X
Trade 1 Sell 500@X -> PONG T1 Buy 505@Y
Trade 2 Sell 300@X -> PONG T2 Buy 303@Y
Trade 3 Sell 200@X -> PONG T3 Buy 202@Y

PONG T1 Buy 505@Y
Trade 1 Buy 200@Y -> 1 LINE OF GAIN in Gains Table
Trade 2 Buy 305@Y -> 1 LINE OF GAIN in Gains Table.

In this example, from 1 PING, 3 PONGS Are generated, and from 1 PONG 2 GAINS are generated.
Usually this happens when you have very BIG Ping Orders.

CAT will proportionally Calculate PING Fees According to Final Pong Trades.
On Final Pong Trade "Trade 1 Buy 200@Y" CAT will calculate the % Percentage of the original  Ping "Trade 1 Sell 500@X" Fees.
Example :
Ping Buy 100@X -> Total Fees is 0.01
If a Final Pong will be Buy 10@X (that is 10% Qry of the original Buy) Total Fees From Ping will be 0.001 (10% of 0.01)

by simply create an algorithm that try to reproduce your "human" logic, and then let it run 24h/day on the number of markets you wants. Bot is created to assist the trade in achieve something that is not possible by human : infinite loop of checkings/rule applications.

you kiding me   

I think you know what I want to ask for .. generally I trade in yobit manually without this software and I don't know How I can use C.A.T for make more profit . 

great suggestions

+1

The new main feature of CAT 4.8 is the Template/Preset management : you'll be able to save a parameter configuration and then restore from a dropdown list in the Ping-Pong Algorithm Panel.
Code is 100% Complete, i was testing yesterday with good results 

yes i will works on that, not sure 100% for 4.8, but sure for 4.9.

 

Because the JVM (Java Virtual Machine) takes part of available RAM.
The fact that you have 8GB Ram is not related to the fact (for example) that JVM Allocates max 512 MB Ram.

You can use the JVM Options via BAT File (if you are running on Windows)
http://alvinalexander.com/blog/post/java/java-xmx-xms-memory-heap-size-control
and
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28272923/default-xmxsize-in-java-8 (for default)

Yep it`ll be great to have an ability to save preset of config and one button restore!

Great,
Sampey please add some sort of general settings that gets copied as a default on all markets on the same exchange.
Its pain in the butt setting hours the same things over and over on hundreds of markets.

Let me be more specific just to avoid questioning like what I have in mind.
I do have in mind things like:
- dont buy over your last pong sale - x %
- lookup every xy sec
- min profit
- skip orders in orderbooks

Each market has some 10 settings or so, when for some reason the soft gets slow it takes 4-5 minutes to set one market.



PS: When restoring orders after a restart, can you please add a simple "i am just restarting, put everything in the same order like it was" button? Its 3 enters you have to hit for each market on each exchange.

Its 300 enters just for poloniex. Imagine yobit...

Any idea why adding trades and basically all manipulation on CAT gets slower by some 2-3 hours of working on that?
I am on the machine via teamviewer, but other stuff works fast.


Consuming some 200MB ram on 8GB ram machine. Java 8, update 121 (build 1.8.0_121-b13).

C.A.T. 4.8 is on the way 

Release ETA 10 days 

I mean How I Win from this application ?  Using it


why people open many orders?......     Becuse people want to trade maybe   and people do a lot of things for can wiin money   that for sure  

@Sampey i send you a mp for buy my liscence  , thanks for your work!

Probably someone use CAT to create volumes on markets.

I mean How I Win from this application? why people open many orders with this application and used it for this purpose ?

Where is written that you should create X Order at the same price than 1 Order with full amount?

Hello,

I'm new here and I want to know ..

Why should open buy orders several time Instead of entering all the amount in just one order ?

Hi All,
Been away for a couple of weeks so now getting back into trading again.

Just wondering if any of the more expeirienced traders could point me to some useful websites that have guides on how to approach trading Bitcoiins/Altcoins in a way that could be automated using CAT.?

Looking to make a trading plan on how to pick which currency pair to trade next, how to determine potential profit targets (min % gain) based on the current min/max levels etc and how to protect the position within CAT.

Essentially if you could give a step by step summary of the things you look for/do when researching and setting up CAT to execute your next trade that would help me really understand how to max my learning..

Oh and thanks for CAT 4.7 Sampey, keep up the great dev work and support you provide :-)

Regards Nomadz

I'm developing CAT 4.8 and i will try to add Bitmex API.
I was able to get support from DEV and API System seems good 

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