Topic: 【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟 (New Price List 04/2021) - page 38. (Read 531112 times)

Situation: I trade on Bittrex. Bittrex allow you only to have take profit or stop loss, you cannot have both orders active at the same time.

Question: can I use this bot, to configure it in the way that it will monitor price of my coins, and trigger stop loss or take profit when price reached it's target?

Yea I am still going through that to see what the problem was.  800 is a lot of data to run through.

why do you let CAT run for that long when you have it clearly set up with wrong configurations?
do you think you can just press start without thinking anything and making money?
that's not how it works. The only thing to blame here is you.

CAT Gains are processed after a single ping-pong is completed.
A CAT Gain it's only a math calculation between Ping and Pong price.
If you think there's something wrong pls show me the line or the single gain you think it's wrong.
You can't post a 800 Line file and wait that someone is able to make analysis over it and show you where the problem is (and IF there's a problem).

No, I am comparing weighted average buy price and weighted average sell price.

Binance fees are 0.05% so 0.5% loss (difference between average buy price and sell price) on 800 bounces, something is definatively wrong here.

the file you posted are bad formatted (the second one, "CAT Bot Record") and they didn't give any interesting info about your problem.

So question is : are you comparing your "Estimated portfolio value" on the site with the sum of all the Comulative Gains? Because these 2 values are completedly different and it's very easy to find discrepancy.

Let's also consider that % GAIN is With Fee, so 0.5% is very very little.....

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1w7bm2kuVFklWtD27eg5PkTL_CYHQf94kk-jZqSTZ2E4/edit?usp=sharing

Here is the raw data for XMR/ETH

The weighted average buy is about 0.5%lower than weighted average sell, about 800 pingpong cycles completed with 0.5%-0.8% profit settings.

Thanks Starmman. I've booted up the software a couple of times since then and have had much better results - I'm made up my losses already. I just need to be more patient. This is a four year plan anyway so I don't know why I'm in such a hurry. Cheers, Mark.

Hi, my bot is making a statical loss by analysing the trades from Binance trade data, but the bot is showing a massive statical gain.

Had about 800 bounces in a day on XMR/ETH and still making a loss how? I will post the data here for people to help me analyse later today.

no ETA about official release.
you're still waiting because you haven't probably fully read what i wrote here :

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.29873100


In other word vaultoro problem is fixed.

Any news about the release date of the final 5.2 version?
I am still waiting for the fixed api for Vaultoro.

- Dust Elements Parameters -
 Ping Order is Dust if Current QTY is < : 1.00000000
 Ping Trade is Dust if QTY is < : 1.00000000
 Ping Trade is Dust if Trade Total < Min Total Market Order : true
 Dust Elements are : Put Into Buy/Sell Pool


Isn't that the dust option??

use DUST order option.
the micro-fake orders happens when due to some rounding routines (and only on exchanges where MYTRADE Api is not available ) CAT thinks a final "micro" trade happens.

Example

Buy 100@X
- Real trade BUY 99,95@X
- Exchange delete the remaining dust 0,05 QTY Remaining

If this action doesn't happens immediatedly there's the risk CAT could determine that 2 trades happens
1 - 99,95
2 - 0,05

So the second case is a "fake" trade, but no way to solve the problem, you can only use DUST Option.

How to fix this settings:

2018-03-01 22:38:00   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047355   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.673   0.00170442
2018-03-01 22:37:58   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047354   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.675   0.00170442
2018-03-01 22:24:44   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047349   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.686   0.00170442
2018-03-01 22:19:24   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047346   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.692   0.00170442
2018-03-01 22:08:43   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047339   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.706   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:58:05   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047335   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.715   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:52:48   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047331   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.723   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:52:46   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047330   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.725   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:47:26   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047329   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.727   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:42:08   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047326   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.733   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:36:50   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047322   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.742   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:31:28   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047321   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.744   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:28:48   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047318   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.750   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:23:27   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047315   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.756   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:18:06   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047313   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.760   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:10:08   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047309   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.769   0.00170442
2018-03-01 21:10:06   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047308   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.771   0.00170442
2018-03-01 20:56:51   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047303   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.781   0.00170442
2018-03-01 20:51:32   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047300   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.787   0.00170442
2018-03-01 20:51:30   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047299   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.789   0.00170442
2018-03-01 20:46:14   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047298   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.791   0.00170442
2018-03-01 20:46:12   SELL   0.00048077   14.99999155   0.00000060   BUY   0.00047297   0.62995348   0.00000060   0.00000120   0.00000370   1.622   0.00170442
2018-03-01 20:40:55   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047294   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.800   0.00170072
2018-03-01 20:40:53   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047293   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.802   0.00170072
2018-03-01 20:35:36   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047292   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.804   0.00170072
2018-03-01 20:32:57   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047290   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.808   0.00170072
2018-03-01 20:32:55   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047289   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.810   0.00170072
2018-03-01 20:27:09   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047288   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.812   0.00170072
2018-03-01 20:24:20   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047287   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.814   0.00170072
2018-03-01 20:24:19   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047286   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.816   0.00170072
2018-03-01 20:08:27   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047283   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.823   0.00170072
2018-03-01 20:02:50   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047280   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.829   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:52:03   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047274   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.841   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:44:06   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047272   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.845   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:41:28   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047270   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.850   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:30:53   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047264   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.862   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:25:33   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047263   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.864   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:20:13   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047261   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.868   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:20:12   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047259   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.872   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:14:50   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047258   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.874   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:12:10   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047257   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.877   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:12:08   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047256   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.879   0.00170072
2018-03-01 19:06:50   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047254   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.883   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:56:13   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047249   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.893   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:56:12   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047248   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.895   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:45:39   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047244   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.904   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:42:59   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047243   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.906   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:40:20   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047240   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.912   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:29:44   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047236   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.920   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:27:04   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047235   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.922   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:27:02   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047234   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.924   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:16:30   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047230   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.933   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:11:12   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047227   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.939   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:11:11   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047226   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.941   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:03:16   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047223   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.947   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:00:39   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047222   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.949   0.00170072
2018-03-01 18:00:35   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047221   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.951   0.00170072
2018-03-01 17:47:44   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047216   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.962   0.00170072
2018-03-01 17:45:03   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047214   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.966   0.00170072
2018-03-01 17:45:01   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047213   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.968   0.00170072
2018-03-01 17:39:50   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047212   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.970   0.00170072
2018-03-01 17:34:30   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047209   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.976   0.00170072
2018-03-01 17:31:59   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00047207   0.00000001   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   1.980   0.00170072
2018-03-01 17:26:45   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000102   BUY   0.00047204   1.05922453   0.00000100   0.00000202   0.00000811   1.987   0.00170072
2018-03-01 03:01:47   SELL   0.00048077   14.99999155   0.00000000   BUY   0.00043006   0.00000829   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   10.547   0.00169260
2018-03-01 02:56:52   SELL   0.00048077   14.99999155   0.00000000   BUY   0.00043004   0.00000825   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   10.551   0.00169260
2018-03-01 02:32:10   SELL   0.00048077   14.99999155   0.00000349   BUY   0.00039162   3.63642705   0.00000285   0.00000634   0.00031783   18.543   0.00169260
2018-02-28 23:42:33   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00036969   0.00000106   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   23.238   0.00137476
2018-02-28 23:25:53   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00036962   0.00000919   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   23.253   0.00137476
2018-02-26 16:15:03   SELL   0.00048161   1.47318370   0.00000000   BUY   0.00038007   0.00000361   0.00000000   0.00000000   0.00000000   21.083   0.00137476

mostly same starting quantity (sell) and nonsense end quantity (buy) of 1 Satoshi. It should not even be possible to buy 1 Satoshi.

The settings for that coin:

- Current Algo Parameters -------------------------
 Ping-Pong Mode : Normal
- General Attributes -
 Min % Guaranteed Gain : 1.000
 Always Create Pong Orders From Trades : true
 Avoid Immediate Price Match In Order Book : false
 Check To Not Buy/Sell To Yourself : true
- Skip Book Orders Attributes -
- OrderBook Filters -
 Filter : Skip SELL Orders With Qty < 1
 Filter : Skip BUY Orders With Qty < 1
- PriceLimit Attributes - NONE
- StopLoss Rules - NONE
- Buy/Sell Pool Parameters -
 Create Ping Orders Only If Market Spread Is > 0.000%
 Limit Buy Pool BTC Max Value To : 9999999.00000000
 Limit Sell Pool ECN Max Value To : 9999999.00000000
 Reuse 100.000 % of BTC Sell Pong Trade Into Buy Pool
 Reuse 100.000 % of ECN Buy Pong Trade Into Sell Pool
 Never Create Ping with ECN Qty > 10000000.00000000
 Never Create Ping with ECN Qty < 0.00000000
 Never Create Ping with BTC Qty < 0.00000000
 Add 0.000% ECN Amount into Sell Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Add 0.000% BTC Amount into Buy Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Add Fix 0.00000000 ECN Amount into Sell Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Add Fix 0.00000000 BTC Amount into Buy Pool Every Pool Lookup
 Stop Ping Creation If Current Market BTC Sell Price is > 99999999.00000000
 Stop Ping Creation If Current Market BTC Buy Price is < 0.00000000
 Stop Ping Creation After 0 Ping-Pong Completed
 Stop Ping Creation If Number Of Active Orders is > 1000
 Stop Ping Creation if Total BTC Orders Amount is > 100000.00000000
 Stop Ping Creation if Total ECN Orders Qty is > 100000000.00000000
 Reset Sell Pool Value If Current ECN Amount is < 0.00000000
 Reset Buy Pool Value If Current BTC Amount is < 0.00000000
 If Needed, Adequate Pool New Ping Pool Order to Min Total (Qty*Price) : false
 If Pool Value > Available Amount then Adequate Pool Values to Available Amount : true
- Dust Elements Parameters -
 Ping Order is Dust if Current QTY is < : 1.00000000
 Ping Trade is Dust if QTY is < : 1.00000000
 Ping Trade is Dust if Trade Total < Min Total Market Order : true
 Dust Elements are : Put Into Buy/Sell Pool
- Running Options -
 Lookup Every 40 seconds
 Recalculation Every 3 Lookup
 Check Buy/Sell Pool Every 5 Lookup
 Check Ping Trade Pool Every 3 Lookup
 When Convert All to ECN Became Active, delete SELL PING : false
 When Convert All to BTC Became Active, delete BUY PING : false
 Run PingPong For 0 Minutes, And The Return to ECN : false
 Run PingPong For 0 Minutes, And The Return to BTC : false
- Advanced Options -
 Find Trades using : Current Order Qty VS Previous
 If Needed, Adequate Ping/Pong Order to Min Total (Qty*Price) : true
 If Calculated Sell Order Qty is > Available Qty Then Use All Available Qty : true
 Merge Equal Orders Into a New One : true
 Merge Equal Trades Into a New One : true
 Try to Stay Alone on top orders book : true
 Never Recalculate Order Qty : false
 Subtract Fees From Ping Trade Buy Qty Before Create Pong Sell : true
 Subtract Fees From Ping Trade Sell Total (Qty x Price) Before Create Pong Buy : true
 Reduce Order To Restore Qty by 1.000% Before a new creation Retry
 Consider 100.000% of Your Real BTC/ECN Balance
 Subtract All Buy/Sell Pool Current Values While Considering Available Amounts : false
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Some quick feedback on different exchanges.

Bitfinex
Should have low fees if volume is several million USD a month, however it seems that their tier system is broken, I am still on the highest fee bracket with high volume.
API also sucks, u get an IP ban if u go too fast, meaning that you can only trade a few coins at the same time.

Poloniex
Fee is too high in comparision. The fee can go down with high volume, but something like 30000 BTC a month is crazy. Another problem is that daily withdraw limit is only 25k USD.

HitBTC
Suppose to have low fees but the exchange has no volume at all. Was making 10% of Binance with same capital input.

Bittrex
Fee too high, might as well just use Poloniex and work on the fee tier.

Binance
The best exchange by far, 0.05% fee with the right settings. Great for quant trading.

Link below to sign up with Binance, truly the best exchange for CAT. I bought half dozen APIs, only Binance was worth it.
https://www.binance.com/?ref=11126125

I cannot understand these two lines (gain on Poloniex for OMG/BTC)

2018-02-28 03:18:49   BUY   0.00192425   1.69727945   0.00000489   SELL   0.00193964   1.69471656   0.00000494   0.00000983   0.00001624   0.799   0.00021345
2018-02-28 03:08:11   BUY   0.00190490   1.70775893   0.00000811   SELL   0.00192014   1.70347246   0.00000491   0.00001302   0.00001293   0.800   0.00019720

very similar price x quantity, but big difference in the fee. Why?

I put the above data into a spreadsheet:

2018-02-28 03:18:49   BUY   0.00192425   1.69727945   0.000008165                       SELL 0.00193964           1.69471656   8.217850071096E-06   1.63828250252523E-05
2018-02-28 03:08:11   BUY   0.0019049   1.70775893   8.1327749643925E-06        SELL 0.00192014           1.70347246   8.177264023361E-06   0.00001631

Hi Stampley,
Today I try to run Cat bot and its say "error loading exchange markets. Please relogin" Could you help please. Im using my API on Binance.
--> Got the answer by searching through the forum. Could you please pm me a new version of 5.2 please. I cant send messages to you for some 360 secs error. Its 5 AM here so Ill crash to bed after this post.
Thank you Stampley.

hum.....i will check soon, actually i need to return home.
pm me again if you don't receive any response in the next 5 hours.
thanks

Hi, please double check to see if the new copy is correct. For Bitfinex and HitBTC it says user not found. and yes, I tried twice with this new copy.

Since I cannot send more than 2 PM per day, here is the info you requested.
Original Bitfinex Pub key
ZD3tCzZiFsBSuVARRTvcf3ycm02iUGaYl58POtQAZnj

Order Number: 6186 cryptocatbot.com