【BOT】 🌟 C.A.T. Cryptocurrency Automatic Trader 🌟 (New Price List 04/2021) - page 61.

Sampey

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Quote from: merg357 on November 28, 2017, 03:10:55 PM

getting frozen on the Pong, how do i setup the stop loss to help this? Thanks again, sorry for the questions

you can set a SELL ALL or BUY ALL (depending by the pong type) with condition like "XXXX ALL IF % With REFERENCE PRICE IS < -X"

Where -X is for example 5 : if the difference with current book orders price and the reference price (the ping trade price) is < -5% (ex -6) it means that market trend is going opposite the side that allows you to have a gain.
So a stop loss will be triggered and you will loss near 5% but no more.

Take care with stop loss because sometimes markets are very volatile and a +10% / -10% could occur in some minutes.....

Bigbaggo

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Hi Sampey

Please check your inbox

merg357

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Quote from: Sampey on November 28, 2017, 02:24:51 AM

Quote from: merg357 on November 27, 2017, 09:22:26 PM

Hi Guys,

Couple of quick questions.
I have noticed that my CAT will create orders maybe like 6-8 transactions in the gains tab and then it will just sit with open orders for 24 hours or more with no activity.
I have to then delete the open orders and redo the Ping/pong creation. Any idea why its doing this?

Also, I notice my balance is consistently decreasing in BTC , I am only trading LTC or bitcin cash. Is this because the value of BTC is rising or am I loosing money on each transaction with buying and selling levels?

Thank you

Hi,
if your gains tab have a positive value, that value is the mathematical gain that occurs after a ping-pong is complete.
The general BTC portfolio value is something else : it's the simple conversion of all your asset expressed in BTC (considering the last market price of any asset).
That value can decrease or increase even if you're not trading.
About the open orders : probably these orders are pong, you must read the log to understand the reason why they are sitting in order book.
Usually an order is "frozen" inside the order book when market value goes away from the minimum value useful to let you have your gain %. So Cat will wait until that value is reached. Sometimes have a stop loss could hep you restart a ping-pong cycle and minimize loss.

Your right, it is getting frozen on the Pong, how do i setup the stop loss to help this? Thanks again, sorry for the questions

merg357

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Quote from: Sampey on November 28, 2017, 02:41:13 PM

Quote from: merg357 on November 28, 2017, 02:38:17 PM

Thank you I understand that one now,

Basically, with the static and dynamic, are you referring to the ping type drop down box on the Ping order creator? OR on the Presets drop down box and picking default Static , then for pingPong mode choosing Static instead of Normal

which one do i select?

Usually (when you don't create order) orders are STATIC when algorithm is static and Dynamic when algorithm is dynamic.
In other words fixed buy/sell price or dynamic ping price and dynamic pong price (with constraint of % gain over ping reference price).

BUT customers ask me about the function to change type of an order from STATIC to DYNAMIC and vice-versa

So, when order is static (because you force that value) inside Dynamic mode, that order won't be recalculated.

so is it better to leave everything as dynamic or should something be changed to static?

Sampey

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Quote from: merg357 on November 28, 2017, 02:38:17 PM

Thank you I understand that one now,

Basically, with the static and dynamic, are you referring to the ping type drop down box on the Ping order creator? OR on the Presets drop down box and picking default Static , then for pingPong mode choosing Static instead of Normal

which one do i select?

Usually (when you don't create order) orders are STATIC when algorithm is static and Dynamic when algorithm is dynamic.
In other words fixed buy/sell price or dynamic ping price and dynamic pong price (with constraint of % gain over ping reference price).

BUT customers ask me about the function to change type of an order from STATIC to DYNAMIC and vice-versa

So, when order is static (because you force that value) inside Dynamic mode, that order won't be recalculated.

merg357

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Quote from: Sampey on November 28, 2017, 02:33:26 PM

Quote from: merg357 on November 28, 2017, 02:08:45 PM

the other question was just in regards to the market price going up or down. When a trade is done and it shows a gain on gain tab, is it possible that you still lost money because of the decrease or increase in the coin value during the trade?

of course, that's normal and not related to bot trading.

Example

I have 100 and change price with BTC is 0.01 so i have 1 BTC in

Now i complete a ping-pong with 10% GAIN
I Sell my 100 Coin at price X and rebuy them at price Y (using total amount of my first ping trade) so total is 110

10% Gain right?
But bad luck for and a crash occurs some times later (that has nothing to do with your trades) and change price now is /BTC = 0.005

So now i have 110 x 0.005 = 0.55 BTC

So my Gain using CAT is 10 Coin but my estimated portfolio value is lower than before.

Thank you I understand that one now,

Basically, with the static and dynamic, are you referring to the ping type drop down box on the Ping order creator? OR on the Presets drop down box and picking default Static , then for pingPong mode choosing Static instead of Normal

which one do i select?

Sampey

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Quote from: merg357 on November 28, 2017, 02:08:45 PM

the other question was just in regards to the market price going up or down. When a trade is done and it shows a gain on gain tab, is it possible that you still lost money because of the decrease or increase in the coin value during the trade?

of course, that's normal and not related to bot trading.

Example

I have 100 and change price with BTC is 0.01 so i have 1 BTC in

Now i complete a ping-pong with 10% GAIN
I Sell my 100 Coin at price X and rebuy them at price Y (using total amount of my first ping trade) so total is 110

10% Gain right?
But bad luck for and a crash occurs some times later (that has nothing to do with your trades) and change price now is /BTC = 0.005

So now i have 110 x 0.005 = 0.55 BTC

So my Gain using CAT is 10 Coin but my estimated portfolio value is lower than before.

merg357

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Quote from: Sampey on November 28, 2017, 11:38:14 AM

Quote from: merg357 on November 28, 2017, 11:31:13 AM

thank you

So if i am hearing you correctly, I need to place static trades using default settings.

So if I am just trading say Bitcoin Cash using static trades and am seeing a positive on cumulative gains tab then This is also taking into consideration the market fluctuation of the coin?

When it is BUY/Sell or Ping/Pong , I would not be loosing any money with market fluctuation because its already factored into CAT?

Static orders, not trades. Trade is an event that occurs after a match between 2 orders (Taker/Maker)

If you trade in STATIC MODE cat won't consider any price change. Sell Price will be X Buy price will be Y, nothing more than this.
You can combine multiple static mode over the same markets and try to get different range of Gain : for example 1% on Algo1, 2% on algo2 etc....

I haven't understand your last question....

the other question was just in regards to the market price going up or down. When a trade is done and it shows a gain on gain tab, is it possible that you still lost money because of the decrease or increase in the coin value during the trade?

merg357

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was going to upload a picture to show you but can't figure out how to get it on here.

Basically, with the static and dynamic, are you referring to the ping type drop down box on the Ping order creator? OR on the Presets drop down box and picking default Static , then for pingPong mode choosing Static instead of Normal

which one do i select?

Sampey

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Quote from: merg357 on November 28, 2017, 11:31:13 AM

thank you

So if i am hearing you correctly, I need to place static trades using default settings.

So if I am just trading say Bitcoin Cash using static trades and am seeing a positive on cumulative gains tab then This is also taking into consideration the market fluctuation of the coin?

When it is BUY/Sell or Ping/Pong , I would not be loosing any money with market fluctuation because its already factored into CAT?

Static orders, not trades. Trade is an event that occurs after a match between 2 orders (Taker/Maker)

If you trade in STATIC MODE cat won't consider any price change. Sell Price will be X Buy price will be Y, nothing more than this.
You can combine multiple static mode over the same markets and try to get different range of Gain : for example 1% on Algo1, 2% on algo2 etc....

I haven't understand your last question....

merg357

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thank you

So if i am hearing you correctly, I need to place static trades using default settings.

So if I am just trading say Bitcoin Cash using static trades and am seeing a positive on cumulative gains tab then This is also taking into consideration the market fluctuation of the coin?

When it is BUY/Sell or Ping/Pong , I would not be loosing any money with market fluctuation because its already factored into CAT?

Daleaus

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Good call haha.. No i'm not alone, that would explain it.. Ok prepare for next questions, i'm determined to learn every tiny little detail Wink

Sampey

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Quote from: Daleaus on November 28, 2017, 10:45:11 AM

Currently it is not doing as you suggest, the order with the star in the image is mine but it should cancel and move to 0.00001415 and it is not. Is there a setting which could be interfering? this is dynamic btw

are you alone on that position? Or you're sitting there with other person?

Daleaus

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Currently it is not doing as you suggest, the order with the star in the image is mine but it should cancel and move to 0.00001415 and it is not. Is there a setting which could be interfering? this is dynamic btw

Sampey

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Quote from: Daleaus on November 28, 2017, 10:19:12 AM

Ok,

lets say the sell order book looks like this;

0.00001360 (my order)
Gap between 0.00001360 and 0.00001365
0.00001365
0.00001366
0.00001367
0.00001368

The bot should cancel my order at 0.00001360 and move it to 0.00001364 so that my sell order stays as close to the next sell order as possible, How to make this happen?

it already happen during recalculation :

- CAT GETS ORDER BOOK :
so
0.00001360 (my order)
0.00001365
0.00001366
0.00001367
0.00001368

- CAT REMOVE Your order position (if you have 100% or near)
0.00001365
0.00001366
0.00001367
0.00001368

If option try to stay always on top is active then new price is 0.00001364, otherwise 0.00001365

Daleaus

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Ok,

lets say the sell order book looks like this;

0.00001360 (my order)
Gap between 0.00001360 and 0.00001365
0.00001365
0.00001366
0.00001367
0.00001368

The bot should cancel my order at 0.00001360 and move it to 0.00001364 so that my sell order stays as close to the next sell order as possible, How to make this happen?

Sampey

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Quote from: Daleaus on November 28, 2017, 09:45:48 AM

Will have plenty of questions over the coming days / fair warning Cheesy

So i put in a dynamic ping order for a buy at 0.00001326 sats but it actually brought at 0.00001386 sats, any ideas why it would purchase above the price i requested it to purchase at?

because it's dynamic : recalculation routine comes in play and order was recreated from 0.00001326 to 0.00001386
without any kind of price limits CAT is free to recreate a PING order in any market position.

Daleaus

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Will have plenty of questions over the coming days / fair warning Cheesy

So i put in a dynamic ping order for a buy at 0.00001326 sats but it actually brought at 0.00001386 sats, any ideas why it would purchase above the price i requested it to purchase at?

Sampey

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Quote from: merg357 on November 27, 2017, 09:22:26 PM

Hi Guys,

Couple of quick questions.
I have noticed that my CAT will create orders maybe like 6-8 transactions in the gains tab and then it will just sit with open orders for 24 hours or more with no activity.
I have to then delete the open orders and redo the Ping/pong creation. Any idea why its doing this?

Also, I notice my balance is consistently decreasing in BTC , I am only trading LTC or bitcin cash. Is this because the value of BTC is rising or am I loosing money on each transaction with buying and selling levels?

Thank you

Hi,
if your gains tab have a positive value, that value is the mathematical gain that occurs after a ping-pong is complete.
The general BTC portfolio value is something else : it's the simple conversion of all your asset expressed in BTC (considering the last market price of any asset).
That value can decrease or increase even if you're not trading.
About the open orders : probably these orders are pong, you must read the log to understand the reason why they are sitting in order book.
Usually an order is "frozen" inside the order book when market value goes away from the minimum value useful to let you have your gain %. So Cat will wait until that value is reached. Sometimes have a stop loss could hep you restart a ping-pong cycle and minimize loss.

merg357

newbie

Activity: 22

Merit: 0

Hi Guys,

Couple of quick questions.
I have noticed that my CAT will create orders maybe like 6-8 transactions in the gains tab and then it will just sit with open orders for 24 hours or more with no activity.
I have to then delete the open orders and redo the Ping/pong creation. Any idea why its doing this?

Also, I notice my balance is consistently decreasing in BTC , I am only trading LTC or bitcin cash. Is this because the value of BTC is rising or am I loosing money on each transaction with buying and selling levels?

Thank you

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