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Topic: [BOUNTY CLOSED] Open Source (CC) Paper Wallet Kit for safe offline coin storage - page 3. (Read 27627 times)

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I understand what you say about this voting , but how can we control that?! :O I don´t know...
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I make pretty things.
That was a bit of a gongshow eh, lol. Well, I sent a PM just now. Thanks for your leadership throughout this collaborative process Smiley
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English expression: The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Another english expression: No good deed goes unpunished.

In my desire to be open and fair, I put the designs up for an open and public vote. What an idiot I am!
As punishment for my naiveté, the vote was completely bogusified (that's a scientific word from voting science. No, it isn't).
There was a lot of double-triple-quadruple voting. It became a popularity test, not a design test.

I have no idea who won. The Internets won. I know who lost: Fairness, and my reputation in this project.
Perhaps the project won, because more than 600 people visited the voting site (or 100 people visited 6 times each). We got some publicity, but it was probably not positive.

So, first of all, an apology is due: I sincerely apologize to all the designers for the voting process. It SUCKED. I am very sorry.

I don't know what should be done next. I would like to ask each of the designers who submitted designs to contact me personally and privately to suggest how we should proceed to decide on a good design, that everyone can agree is fair. I tried and failed, let's see how you do. Please, Timbo, Acorn, M.B. Messer, 75RTUGA, cantor and Mr. No. (I think that is everyone), please contact me now by private message.

The worst part is that a few people tried to warn me (Dr. No, MB Messer) and I didn't listen, worse I was dismissive. That's another lesson for me to learn. Now, I will slow the project down, to save it.

Everyone, please focus on the common goal: Providing beautiful open source paper wallets to the community. This has always been about improving bitcoin and bitcoin security, with style. It has never been about the bounty or finding who is the best designer. Every design had great features and ideally every design will be included in the final deliverable. Let's try and keep our focus on that common purpose and we can fix this minor diversion.

Thank you for your support and patience. Even with this mess, everyone has been very kind and supportive.

PS. Of course I will still award the bounties. I just need time to figure out how to do it without it being arbitrary, capricious and offending everyone.
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Update:

I've received interest from a number of authors, copy editors and general support. Since the last message, I have made some preliminary contact with publishers, referred by some friends who are authors with them.

I'm crowdsourcing the table of contents here (a placeholder for now):
https://bitcoinbook.hackpad.com/

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Ok, I'm sorry, I didn't want to offend you or any other at all and I'm really sorry if I did, that wasn't my intention.

I also apologize for getting upset. Perhaps we can put all this behind us and move on in the spirit of collaboration, especially since we both want the same thing: a benefit to the entire community.

No hard feelings from me, and sorry for being rude.
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I would love to see some crowd designing, and collaborative work.

For what it's worth, I'm hoping and assuming that this has been the plan all along. I think the contest was a good motivation to get us hunkered down in front of our computers working on original designs. However, when the contest is over I don't imagine the point is to send the "winning" design to the printers -- rather I assume since this is an open and collaborative project that Aantonop will consider integrating elements from any of the designs (winning or not) to make something truly spectacular.

Everyone's been very generous with sharing ideas up until this point, I can't imagine why the collaboration would stop now.

Let me be explicit about my plans and goals on this issue:

I will be using one of the winning designs for the print job. Since I will be spending more than $2000 for this, I will pick a design that I think will sell. The voting helps me see which one is popular.

I will also ask ALL the designers, winning or not, to open source their designs. Any designs that are in fact open sourced will go on the repository, will be in the software and will be used part of the released OpenPaperWallet site. On the final site, there will be no mention of winners, that's entirely besides the point. I hope every design will be open sourced and included. I actually had budgeted mini-bounties for all the remaining designers, just as a thanks for the work, regardless of the votes.

The final result of this work will be an open site, a public github repository, and software which shows and prints any design that is submitted. I will continue to fund even more designs, so that in the end a user can pick from dozens.

If I can get enough support and sales of the initial print, I intend to produce multiple variations and sell those too, with designs from other designers. But since each design will cost a minimum of $1000 to print professionaly, I have to narrow it to one for start, and a few for later.

Hopefully, once we show success and a good-looking product, others will donate and support the creative efforts here and produce more amazing and beautiful designs that the entire bitcoin community can enjoy for free.

Thank you all for the support
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I would love to see some crowd designing, and collaborative work.

For what it's worth, I'm hoping and assuming that this has been the plan all along. I think the contest was a good motivation to get us hunkered down in front of our computers working on original designs. However, when the contest is over I don't imagine the point is to send the "winning" design to the printers -- rather I assume since this is an open and collaborative project that Aantonop will consider integrating elements from any of the designs (winning or not) to make something truly spectacular.

Everyone's been very generous with sharing ideas up until this point, I can't imagine why the collaboration would stop now.
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No keys will be pre-printed. I'm planning on getting the printer company to start work next week, and get the first samples. Then I can test on a variety of printers (inkjet, laser etc).

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Can you please submit a design that matches the agreed template and layout exactly?

Done! I don't think the margins are ideal in the template (important content unnecessarily close to the paper edge) -- and I think it's a mistake to omit the public key from the backup stub -- but I've submitted a revised design that strictly conforms to the template.

https://tricider.com/en/display/104330?wicket:pageMapName=wicket-4


It would probably be an easy fix in the design [ add a white box ], but I'm curious if inkjet printers would be content overprinting the design for the textual public key.

I'm not sure the level of permeability of printing press ink [ or what process aanthonop plans on using ]. ( While I do have access to professionally printed things I wouldn't mind ruining, I do not have access to an inkjet to test )

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It is monday now isn't it?
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I'm going by Honolulu, to give max time. Seriously.  (UTC-10). So NY will be 5am Monday morning.

If you are working on the design and need a few hours, just holler, we're not going to cut off our nose to spite our face on this.
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Cantor, yes me may have to make margin adjustments once we do the sample print with perforation die.

As for the public/private stub, that will be an option in the software. Perhaps a radio button: Public key, or second copy of private as human readable?

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Can you please submit a design that matches the agreed template and layout exactly?

Done! I don't think the margins are ideal in the template (important content unnecessarily close to the paper edge) -- and I think it's a mistake to omit the public key from the backup stub -- but I've submitted a revised design that strictly conforms to the template.

https://tricider.com/en/display/104330?wicket:pageMapName=wicket-4
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Cantor, those QR's on the stub do not conform with the template's layout.
I appreciate the superior design feature for the offset and rotation, but on consensus we went for the simpler layout.

Can you please submit a design that matches the agreed template and layout exactly?

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Designers have until late Sunday

Okay, I finally posted mine to tricider for voting, and for the first time, included the reverse design as well.



http://tricider.com/brainstorming/poxx -- voting begins tomorrow I think?
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Just to clarify.

Designers have until late Sunday (any time zone) to submit new designs, add designs etc.

Voting is turned off, on purpose, until Monday. I will announce it publicly on Monday and turn on voting. Then we will have 3-4 days of voting.

Feel free to make adjustments or add comments. Comments that are "votes" and not really comments will be deleted for fairness, if submitted before Monday.

Thanks!
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I will be using an online voting service to handle the public vote. You can see the design submissions here:

http://tricider.com/brainstorming/poxx


Hello!
Why the people can´t vote and only can write on "Pros and Cons"?!
...many dificult to vote :/

75RTUGA

UPDATE: OPS sorry! Tongue ...only monday! Now i saw! Tongue sorry sorry
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Maybe I missed it somewhere in the thread, but is there a measurment for the microperf?
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Look for the bear necessities!!
This product will be great.
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