Topic: Bounty managers can do better (Read 1010 times)
It's an excellent point. However, we have no idea how they begin to handle a project. Perhaps they've already started video messaging. However, before joining a bounty, bounty hunters must do their own studies.
But bounty hunters have a responsibility to do their own research before joining a bounty.
Just like an investor, bounty hunters would need to do the same.
Both will make money once the project succeed, but investors loss money if it fail while bounty hunters loss its time invested when it fail.
So they both have an important things to loss when the project failed, therefore everyone should ensure to support a legit project so it's a win-win situation for both the investors and bounty hunters.
I know it's easy to say it but it's hard to do, but its alright because it's not impossible to make it happen.
But bounty hunters have a responsibility to do their own research before joining a bounty.
Just like an investor, bounty hunters would need to do the same.
Both will make money once the project succeed, but investors loss money if it fail while bounty hunters loss its time invested when it fail.
So they both have an important things to loss when the project failed, therefore everyone should ensure to support a legit project so it's a win-win situation for both the investors and bounty hunters.
I know it's easy to say it but it's hard to do, but its alright because it's not impossible to make it happen.
I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers
If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria
Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only
If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria
Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only
Its a good point. But we don't know how they start to manage a project. May be already they already doing this video chatting. But bounty hunters have a responsibility to do their own research before joining a bounty.
I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers
If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria
Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only
Video calling, public visibility, these won't still stop scammers from hurting investors, since 2018 many projects that have visible team members end up exiting scam, miracle tele is a good example of such project, non anonymous teams can still scam, do your own research If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria
Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only
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if all bounty managers are going to unite and make it a requirement that will be good for both bounty hunters and bounty managers.
I mean like who does not want that? But making up such a "guild" is very difficult to maintain a clean cult and there will be others willing to work solo.As you know being a part of a group means someone is going to be like a leading manager there and others will complain that they are taking up all the work. It is possible, though only hypothetical for now.
Previously Lauda,yahoo,Lutpin tried to grow such a system but those days are long over now. Still the well known managers are following suit.
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we have so many projects using fake accounts coming from photo sharing sites, some of them are even using fake people with fake credentials, they get random people on social media, promising big payment just to use their profile, if they have that requirement scamming will be minimized
You forgot about some specific country managers who keep on complaining about "predatory" tactics by other managers? Its baseless and false but there was a thread in "Reputation" about it a couple of months back.It is strange how childish these "professional" people can become instead of focusing on their work.
I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers
If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria
Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only
If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria
Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only
if all bounty managers are going to unite and make it a requirement that will be good for both bounty hunters and bounty managers. we have so many projects using fake accounts coming from photo sharing sites, some of them are even using fake people with fake credentials, they get random people on social media, promising big payment just to use their profile, if they have that requirement scamming will be minimized
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If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real,
I don't think it's going to benefit in any way, as scammers make some plans before introducing any project and that's why they would have succeeded in committing such big scams. Even if the bounty managers have a video call condition, then surely scammers will plan for it. Because they are evil-minded people, so we should do some research on our own before joining any bountyIf bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real,
I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria
scammers do not have any country or religion, but they are bad people irrespective of the country.
this is for your own opinion as i know very well that every bounty managers tries their best to fetch out some scam projects.. at this point i would love you to visit the scam accusation section to see it yourself, trusted bounty managers are working tirelessly and endlessly to put an end to such project before introducing it to their community members reason because they so much believe and entrusted him much in other hand to always remain at the top he has to do drastic research for him to be certified is not scam projects. please click here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
I don't think asking KYC to team would not work they would not give their personal information to the user they just hired since they didn't know them too personally. Well I think I'll go with the idea of video conferencing with the team who wants to run bounty campaign.
How can a video conferencing with the project team will ensure that they will not scam ? The only way for protection is to get the KYC for the owner of the project so in case he tries to scam, the bounty manager can have a legal case on them.
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The problem is sometimes newbie managers are willing to risk just for them to have added in their portfolio and this is the competition tighten ,the older managers has no option either to stop managing or go with the flow,because even how denial they do new Bounty manager are willing to shoulder the risk and Scammer team knew about this.
Correct, the teams know that their "scam" will be marketed by someone. That is also why there is a need of a managers' group which can reach a consensus about new projects and assign the project to someone in that group on a turn-by-turn basis - my opinion. Anyone who is not a certified member of this group could be marked as a manager whose projects are to be handled with caution by hunters.However creating such a system will generate a lot of uproar from unscrupulous managers like it always has happened in the past.
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So in all ways you must admit as Bounty hunter that the Bounty ways will remain like this as it started like this also.
Sadly it is a vicious never ending cycle. Stop hunting bounties is what I have to say. 
I once wished that bounty hunters can come together as one to escape the ruined reputations of bounty hunters and the unfair ways we've been treated but I think this can easily be done not by bounty hunters but by bounty managers
If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria
Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only
The problem is sometimes newbie managers are willing to risk just for them to have added in their portfolio and this is the competition tighten ,the older managers has no option either to stop managing or go with the flow,because even how denial they do new Bounty manager are willing to shoulder the risk and Scammer team knew about this.If bounty managers can starts doing screening on new bounty projects scam rate will be limit, for example come face to face with team using video chat and forcing them to do KYC just to confirm they are real, this day many new projects only chat with bounty managers and that's all, I think this is why bounty detective can't figure out that kingcasino scammers are from Nigeria
Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only
So in all ways you must admit as Bounty hunter that the Bounty ways will remain like this as it started like this also.
If we will have everyone to blame, it will exert countless effort to determine who should be blame, some bounty hunters are just bot, they don't read, what they care is that they just do their job, so it's nice if it will start from the bounty managers since mostly the relationship is only between the bounty manager and the team, as a bounty hunter we can't approach the project team as they will just say they have already appoint something to do the job.
It would mean shifting the blame again on the manager. They already receive flak from hunters who are literally illiterate enough to not read every instruction and act like complete baboons. Even then the managers are kind enough to help them out.
This is in fact a very complicated situation if seen with a serious vision. We cannot rule out the fact that even most project owners are also frustrated on the finances received from the offering. Thus their ghosting to pay out participants and therefore the constant spamming of PMs to the manager from hunters.
I dont see any way out from this except redesigning or removing the entire "bounty" system.
only for him to get paid also but it do also add up into his reputation on handling out good projects which would be a helpful thing for his upcoming project handling in the future.
its no surprise that most hunters would really have this kind of reaction without even rethinking that it cant really change a thing if they wont tend to be that harsh
on where giving out all the blame just like theres no tomorrow.
Being a manager or community handling kind of job isnt simple and the most stressful thing is that you do receive lots of accusations/criticisms and more.
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If we will have everyone to blame, it will exert countless effort to determine who should be blame, some bounty hunters are just bot, they don't read, what they care is that they just do their job, so it's nice if it will start from the bounty managers since mostly the relationship is only between the bounty manager and the team, as a bounty hunter we can't approach the project team as they will just say they have already appoint something to do the job.
It would mean shifting the blame again on the manager. They already receive flak from hunters who are literally illiterate enough to not read every instruction and act like complete baboons. Even then the managers are kind enough to help them out.
This is in fact a very complicated situation if seen with a serious vision. We cannot rule out the fact that even most project owners are also frustrated on the finances received from the offering. Thus their ghosting to pay out participants and therefore the constant spamming of PMs to the manager from hunters.
I dont see any way out from this except redesigning or removing the entire "bounty" system.
I don't think asking KYC to team would not work they would not give their personal information to the user they just hired since they didn't know them too personally. Well I think I'll go with the idea of video conferencing with the team who wants to run bounty campaign.
So many managers have been trying to do their best to avoid the scam project but it can't give a guarantee if the participants and managers will be free from the scam project. Sometimes it's a good idea to did it but i thought that when the team said it's privacy and what you can do about that. Im thinking about even when the team has verified through KYC verification didn't mean the team was also legit. A project must be built with strong fundamental to make sure if that will not become a scam project. Even a good project early can be a scam project too.
I don't think asking KYC to team would not work they would not give their personal information to the user they just hired since they didn't know them too personally. Well I think I'll go with the idea of video conferencing with the team who wants to run bounty campaign.
So many managers have been trying to do their best to avoid the scam project but it can't give a guarantee if the participants and managers will be free from the scam project. Sometimes it's a good idea to did it but i thought that when the team said it's privacy and what you can do about that. Im thinking about even when the team has verified through KYC verification didn't mean the team was also legit. A project must be built with strong fundamental to make sure if that will not become a scam project. Even a good project early can be a scam project too.
I don't think asking KYC to team would not work they would not give their personal information to the user they just hired since they didn't know them too personally. Well I think I'll go with the idea of video conferencing with the team who wants to run bounty campaign.
So many managers have been trying to do their best to avoid the scam project but it can't give a guarantee if the participants and managers will be free from the scam project. Sometimes it's a good idea to did it but i thought that when the team said it's privacy and what you can do about that. Im thinking about even when the team has verified through KYC verification didn't mean the team was also legit. A project must be built with strong fundamental to make sure if that will not become a scam project. Even a good project early can be a scam project too.
we really can't tell if that would be helpful since some of the projects doesn't care to show their identity or face and will blatantly doing their exit scam. although the risk will be lessen still there's a risk.
I don't think asking KYC to team would not work they would not give their personal information to the user they just hired since they didn't know them too personally. Well I think I'll go with the idea of video conferencing with the team who wants to run bounty campaign.
Reward is very important but it should not be put first, the first thing that a manager should consider is if the project is legitimate or not, because it's useless to be attracted to a big reward when in the end all our effort will only be wasted as the project goes "SCAM".
It is not the job of manager only but also for the participants to judge the project. If a person is willing to advertise the project they should be careful not the promote a scam project as well. But very few of the bounty participants actually care about this, they will jump into it without doing background checks on the team, their website or whitepaper.In fact, bounty hunters are just observing which bounty to join, they don't advertise their service like the bounty managers are doing.
If we will have everyone to blame, it will exert countless effort to determine who should be blame, some bounty hunters are just bot, they don't read, what they care is that they just do their job, so it's nice if it will start from the bounty managers since mostly the relationship is only between the bounty manager and the team, as a bounty hunter we can't approach the project team as they will just say they have already appoint something to do the job.
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