Topic: Bounty managers can do better - page 4. (Read 1110 times)
that's not a bad idea, but the fact that video calls or face to face with the project developer also does not mean guarantee that the project will be successful. there are lots of projects that are legitimate, convincing, have quality products, and even most of the new projects can even end up being fraudulent.
The vast majority of bounty managers charge peanuts for their work, they don't actually have the time to do good work—at least not if they want to be adequately rewarded for it.
It would be better if there was a single group of trustworthy bounty managers that split the work between one another, but it seems that the only bounty managers left are the absolute scrubs that don't give a damn about bounty hunters and take whatever jobs they can, so long as they get paid.
It's up to the bounty hunters to do their own due diligence and only work with managers that are proven to be able to land high-quality clients and get results. Don't bother with newbies, they don't know what they're doing and you'll just end up wasting time.
It would be better if there was a single group of trustworthy bounty managers that split the work between one another, but it seems that the only bounty managers left are the absolute scrubs that don't give a damn about bounty hunters and take whatever jobs they can, so long as they get paid.
It's up to the bounty hunters to do their own due diligence and only work with managers that are proven to be able to land high-quality clients and get results. Don't bother with newbies, they don't know what they're doing and you'll just end up wasting time.
I've had live video chat with projects that turned out to be a scam in the end. What's your point?
The thing is, many projects start legit, and once they see that it's not going well, they take what's left and run away, basically scamming even their own team members...
That's right because i work in most of your campaigns and most of the projects start legit , but at the end they run away. As a BM you ( as well as other BMs ) try to do the best for bounty hunters so that all can get their rewards . But when the distribution is finished, most of the team members from each projects start making drama like market is not good or covid-19 has bad impacts on their projects and so on. In the end, project shut down and team run away with all the funds. As a result, we can't blame Bounty Managers all the time because they try to do the best for us. Basically, we need to be more aware about this type of projects which ico/ieo price is equal or more than $1. The thing is, many projects start legit, and once they see that it's not going well, they take what's left and run away, basically scamming even their own team members...
You know the reason why managers don't mind taking projects and start a campaign is because they got less stuff to lose, just quite of their time coz they already have got initial payment upon starting the campaign, some even received the payment for managing a project in weekly basis. However, what the managers are putting into expense is their own reputation on the platform like here in bitcointalk, if you got more than scam projects handled then most probably participants won't likely to do much effort participating in your campaign since they got a high chance of being scammed. Pity for those who don't quit bounty hunting 
Your advice is good. But it is not as easy to say as it is to do. Bounty managers are greedy, they manage scam projects bounty for their own benefit. The main reason for this is that a lot of unprofessional managers are coming whose job is to take the job anyway. They don't care about Bounty hunters. As a result, the project teams get benefits here, they don't have to worry about verification. I would say that Bounty hunters should not join the campaign of managers other than professional managers.
the idea is not so bad. however, sometimes very many people want to become a bounty manager, so when a bounty manager rejects this, the team will find a new manager or create their own account. Well, lots of things to do to avoid that. if you want to be better, I better support payments using USDT or coins that already have a market.
I think by doing video chats with the team or meeting them face to face will not ensure success of the project but it can reduces the risk. The rewards of a campaign totally depends on the success of the project that whether the team behind the project achieved their target investment or the coins listed on exchanges? For now, there is a risk for bounty hunters because most of the projects turn out to be scam.
There are many other things managers should consider
- checking the plagiarism of whitepaper
- complete investigation of team behind the project
- web ui
- road map and what they have already achieved.
- weather they are willing to spend from theor pocket if project couldnt do well in ico.
Surely a manager will do a deeper research into a project and as you mentioned sometimes they always plagiarize white papers to run their projects and ICO sales will not be of much interest if there are still projects that are hard to do raising with ICO.There are many other things managers should consider
- checking the plagiarism of whitepaper
- complete investigation of team behind the project
- web ui
- road map and what they have already achieved.
- weather they are willing to spend from theor pocket if project couldnt do well in ico.
We have started working on a platform to ensure bounty hunters payment, so no project can scam them hopefully it shall be launched in the end of this year.
Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only
Seem like you are bounty hunter who just followed the bounty manager, I mean when you join or participate in a bounty program you just see who is the bounty manager, isn't you? I think that's bad also, being a bounty hunter is not about you just promoting the project in your signature but you must know also what the purpose of your project that you promoting.
You will be blame as well when the project is cought to be scammer because there will be many investor who join the project just because they're see your signature or in your social media. I mean, when you give a suggestion for other people it means you have done what was advised to other people.
I think by doing video chats with the team or meeting them face to face will not ensure success of the project but it can reduces the risk. The rewards of a campaign totally depends on the success of the project that whether the team behind the project achieved their target investment or the coins listed on exchanges? For now, there is a risk for bounty hunters because most of the projects turn out to be scam.
There are many other things managers should consider
- checking the plagiarism of whitepaper
- complete investigation of team behind the project
- web ui
- road map and what they have already achieved.
- weather they are willing to spend from theor pocket if project couldnt do well in ico.
Surely a manager will do a deeper research into a project and as you mentioned sometimes they always plagiarize white papers to run their projects and ICO sales will not be of much interest if there are still projects that are hard to do raising with ICO. There are many other things managers should consider
- checking the plagiarism of whitepaper
- complete investigation of team behind the project
- web ui
- road map and what they have already achieved.
- weather they are willing to spend from theor pocket if project couldnt do well in ico.
I think by doing video chats with the team or meeting them face to face will not ensure success of the project but it can reduces the risk. The rewards of a campaign totally depends on the success of the project that whether the team behind the project achieved their target investment or the coins listed on exchanges? For now, there is a risk for bounty hunters because most of the projects turn out to be scam.
There are many other things managers should consider
- checking the plagiarism of whitepaper
- complete investigation of team behind the project
- web ui
- road map and what they have already achieved.
- weather they are willing to spend from theor pocket if project couldnt do well in ico.
There are many other things managers should consider
- checking the plagiarism of whitepaper
- complete investigation of team behind the project
- web ui
- road map and what they have already achieved.
- weather they are willing to spend from theor pocket if project couldnt do well in ico.
You have a point, not bad at all if bounty managers can start knowing project team very well before accepting their offer but don't expect that all bounty managers can do this, it's not really to manage a bounty campaign trust me
It's not easy I guess that's your point, and yes it's not but it's an obligation of BM to also know the
team he's working with to make sure that it won't runaway.
If the manager will closely deal with the team behind the project and ask for the portion of the actual
budget for the bounty and let escrow to hold the fund
It will assure all the participants to receive their rewards, the talked between BM and the developing
teams are very important.
Trust always bring investors to support the project, if BM and developers established trust it will make
the participants to work well and advertise or even invest as well.
Each manager must independently verify the campaign, before he agrees to take the responsibility of carrying out a bounty on the forum. This is very important, because if this ICO is found to be a fraud, the manager trust may be colored red. This is due to the fact that it actually promotes scam the forum.
As a bounty hunter, I think we must also know how to determine if a project is a scam or not. It is not always the manager to blame. I think it is also us bounty hunters because we are not please to join the project and we did not try our best to determine if it is scam or not before joining. It is a must that we know how to determine because we continuously join bounties right after the one we participated is already finish.
Several bounties campaigns started on this platform by managers has disappeared. the fact that most projects appear real. that does not denied the fact that anything is possible . project owners can decide to shut down at their own peril if they fill the need to stop. tagging bounty detective for one error does not justify they are rubbish. we all made mistakes. meanwhile we know others that has scammed people here. don't make it a Nigerian thing as if they are the only one with scam activities.
Please bounty manager make sure the team you doing a job for are real atleast, don't just take a job through chats only
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Chat, live video does not guarantee the company and the team, tell the truth, at the beginning and end of the video is a different story, if the project wants to cheat.
Escrow: the best solution for Bounty campaign managers and participants, Escrow guarantees all parties to determine payment after the campaign is promoted, so, Escrow is safer than video chat.
You have a point, not bad at all if bounty managers can start knowing project team very well before accepting their offer but don't expect that all bounty managers can do this, it's not really to manage a bounty campaign trust me
It's not easy I guess that's your point, and yes it's not but it's an obligation of BM to also know the
team he's working with to make sure that it won't runaway.
If the manager will closely deal with the team behind the project and ask for the portion of the actual
budget for the bounty and let escrow to hold the fund
It will assure all the participants to receive their rewards, the talked between BM and the developing
teams are very important.
Trust always bring investors to support the project, if BM and developers established trust it will make
the participants to work well and advertise or even invest as well.
You have a point, not bad at all if bounty managers can start knowing project team very well before accepting their offer but don't expect that all bounty managers can do this, it's not really to manage a bounty campaign trust me
That's the responsibility that owned by the managers before they start to take it as their client. The manager must know what was the visions that owned by the team and how good the reputation that owned by the team too. Im thinking if it's quite difficult and time-consuming but that must be done to prevent the scam projects.
As a bounty participants we should not just fully rely on the campaign manager to find good projects for us, everyone bounty manager has different experience and some have different intention as well, they are willing to manage a project even knowing it's a scam as long as they are paid.
There's a list of reputable bounty campaign managers in the forum, just like Hhampuz and yahoo62278, they are the best for me so I would be willing to join in any project they'll promote. the problem is they have a good price, so for low budget project, they might look for a bounty manager that would accept a lower fee, so that might result to a success.
There's a list of reputable bounty campaign managers in the forum, just like Hhampuz and yahoo62278, they are the best for me so I would be willing to join in any project they'll promote. the problem is they have a good price, so for low budget project, they might look for a bounty manager that would accept a lower fee, so that might result to a success.
I've had live video chat with projects that turned out to be a scam in the end. What's your point?
The thing is, many projects start legit, and once they see that it's not going well, they take what's left and run away, basically scamming even their own team members...
This answers your request OP and I think this should be valid since btcltcdigger is one the veteran bounty manager you can find in this community. I have joined some of his bounties last 2018 and some of them didn't turn well as expected. As you can see, they also doing their best to promote the best bounty out there but scammers always find a way to fool these guys, I think every bounty manager in this community has encountered this kind of problem and learned from those experiences. The thing is, many projects start legit, and once they see that it's not going well, they take what's left and run away, basically scamming even their own team members...
Every manager does not guarantee it all, but my manger believes they always filter out projects when they will be managed in promotion by them.
When I read the title, the first thing that came to my mind is that of the OP trying to reminisce the good old days of profitable bounty hunting in 2016 and 2017 and he tells bounty managers to be more responsible in picking the right bounty so we bounty hunters will earn more. But rather I saw a rant about a bounty that failed and is demanding that bounty managers be more responsible in picking the bounty. Well, don't blame the managers. You will never know when a good thing will turn sour. You just have to move on and make sure to pick the best bounty by your well made research. If you got scammed again, it is still not your fault. Move on until you succeed.
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