[Boxing]: Ancajas vs Martinez - Feb 26, 2022 - page 10.

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Quote from: TravelMug on January 01, 2022, 05:50:03 AM

Quote from: Baofeng on December 31, 2021, 11:23:07 PM

And for the record, Ioka won over his opponent Fukunaga To Retain his WBO Title.

Scores were: 115-113, 116-112 and 118-110 in favour of Ioka.

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The four-division titlist successfully defended his WBO junior bantamweight title with a twelve-round, unanimous decision win over countryman Ryoji Fukunaga, a late replacement for IBF junior bantamweight titlist Jerwin Ancajas.

https://www.boxingscene.com/kazuto-ioka-outpoints-determined-ryoji-fukunaga-retain-wbo-title--163156

So maybe we can definitely see Ancajas vs Ioka still in 2022 if Jerwin will win his match against Martinez in February.

Ioka is expected to win this fight though, Fununaga might be a game fighter but he is not on the same level as Ioka. And you can clearly see the Ioka has ring rust in this fight because he could have just walk by and knock out Fukunaga. So just imagine if that is Jerwin that he fought, he might get knock out by Ancajas by a left straight, just saying. And now that the ball is on Ancajas court to win his fight so that they fight will Ioka can be realised in the future.

Ancajas will win the fight and will beat Ioka, that's what I believe so I hope this fight will push through this year so we will see an Ancajas vs Ioka fight this year as well. With lots of unpredictable things happening related to the covid-19, we cannot be sure if the given date would be really realize.

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Quote from: Baofeng on December 31, 2021, 11:23:07 PM

And for the record, Ioka won over his opponent Fukunaga To Retain his WBO Title.

Scores were: 115-113, 116-112 and 118-110 in favour of Ioka.

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The four-division titlist successfully defended his WBO junior bantamweight title with a twelve-round, unanimous decision win over countryman Ryoji Fukunaga, a late replacement for IBF junior bantamweight titlist Jerwin Ancajas.

https://www.boxingscene.com/kazuto-ioka-outpoints-determined-ryoji-fukunaga-retain-wbo-title--163156

So maybe we can definitely see Ancajas vs Ioka still in 2022 if Jerwin will win his match against Martinez in February.

Ioka is expected to win this fight though, Fununaga might be a game fighter but he is not on the same level as Ioka. And you can clearly see the Ioka has ring rust in this fight because he could have just walk by and knock out Fukunaga. So just imagine if that is Jerwin that he fought, he might get knock out by Ancajas by a left straight, just saying. And now that the ball is on Ancajas court to win his fight so that they fight will Ioka can be realised in the future.

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That's great to hear that ioka win his fight against his fellow Japanese. I never seen the fight, but base on the score it is really close as Fukunaga might be thinking of pulling an upset against the champion.

Nevertheless, the last title fight for this year was expected as usual and there was no derail for a potential fight between Ancajas and Ioka. Maybe in the last quarter of the year, if they still wanted the fight to be held in Japan, this fight can push through.

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And for the record, Ioka won over his opponent Fukunaga To Retain his WBO Title.

Scores were: 115-113, 116-112 and 118-110 in favour of Ioka.

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The four-division titlist successfully defended his WBO junior bantamweight title with a twelve-round, unanimous decision win over countryman Ryoji Fukunaga, a late replacement for IBF junior bantamweight titlist Jerwin Ancajas.

https://www.boxingscene.com/kazuto-ioka-outpoints-determined-ryoji-fukunaga-retain-wbo-title--163156

So maybe we can definitely see Ancajas vs Ioka still in 2022 if Jerwin will win his match against Martinez in February.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on December 31, 2021, 09:20:34 AM

It's difficult because Martinez is an undefeated fight, no easy fight for any boxer as both are training hard to win. It's better that way than saying it's an easy fight as we've already seen some upsets in the past, like when we thought that Pacquiao would easily beat Ugas but what happened was the opposite.

Yeah that's the unexpected one, Pacquiao was heavy favorite but sadly he's lose.

I missed the update, IMO Kazuka Ioka has more potential to win than Martinez to be honest since he's a champion too and more experienced. The undefeated record isn't really a big matter, we should judges by his previous perform and I saw Martinez aren't that good. Still, Ancajas will be favorited since he's more popular and already defend his title multiple times.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 31, 2021, 05:23:37 AM

The potential is there no doubt, actually there are a lot of good Filipino boxers in the past, they all have the potential, however when it comes to big stages, they always feel short until Manny Pacquiao come and everyone wanted to become Manny.

As he truly inspired a lot of Filipino boxers to follow his path. But everyone is very different, I don't think that Ancajas can rally and go up in weight many times. So for now he needs to concentrate on this division and clean it up and beating everyone including the American Gary Russell.

He needs to continue working with his fighting capabilities. Winning fights can hype his name up. There are many aspiring champ that just waiting for a good opportunity. Ancajas is now taking another one to bring more good potential fight once he takes Martinez down. With many competitors, winning is the only key or ticket to bring you up with this sport.

Manny Pacquiao did all his best to climb and inspired pinoy fighters to dream high.

Once you have been given your chance, showcasing all your skills and capabilities should always be inside you. Every win is your chance to create your destiny. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: yazher on December 30, 2021, 11:12:06 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on December 30, 2021, 07:52:56 PM

Yes it did turn out to inspire other filipino boxers to take the same path and now we are seeing those potential ones who could potentially go on the same step on that Pacquiao had achieved
even though its still too far to consider out but having these small steps would really progress out.

Maybe he is considering following the step of the champion legends who were defeating every champion in their respective weight division while climbing to the top just like Manny Pacquiao did when he started to beat Ledwaba in his first fight in the USA. Ancajas have some similarities with Pacquiao and if he trains hard and works for his new technique that would surprise his opponent and break their defense, he might become one of the great boxers in history. But that will require a massive amount of effort and dedication to making it come true.

Of course, every boxers from the Philippines uses Manny Pacquiao as their inspirations. How many Filipino boxers or at least how's the boxing community in the Philippines exploded after Pacquiao breaks into the scene? And up to know new boxers are looking at him because of his accomplishments. But this fight is really difficult for Ancajas but a win here will be really big for him career wise. He could really break in the US mainstream just like Manny did when he beat the champion Ledwaba.

Why do you find it difficult when Ancajas is the most experience boxer and has a good record compared to Martinez? His opponent may be undefeated but Ancajas had some big fights that he succeeded to win, I would say it's difficult for Martinez not for Ancajas as we know who is the favorite to win here.

It's difficult because Martinez is an undefeated fight, no easy fight for any boxer as both are training hard to win. It's better that way than saying it's an easy fight as we've already seen some upsets in the past, like when we thought that Pacquiao would easily beat Ugas but what happened was the opposite.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 31, 2021, 05:49:38 AM

Quote from: yazher on December 30, 2021, 11:12:06 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on December 30, 2021, 07:52:56 PM

Yes it did turn out to inspire other filipino boxers to take the same path and now we are seeing those potential ones who could potentially go on the same step on that Pacquiao had achieved
even though its still too far to consider out but having these small steps would really progress out.

Maybe he is considering following the step of the champion legends who were defeating every champion in their respective weight division while climbing to the top just like Manny Pacquiao did when he started to beat Ledwaba in his first fight in the USA. Ancajas have some similarities with Pacquiao and if he trains hard and works for his new technique that would surprise his opponent and break their defense, he might become one of the great boxers in history. But that will require a massive amount of effort and dedication to making it come true.

Of course, every boxers from the Philippines uses Manny Pacquiao as their inspirations. How many Filipino boxers or at least how's the boxing community in the Philippines exploded after Pacquiao breaks into the scene? And up to know new boxers are looking at him because of his accomplishments. But this fight is really difficult for Ancajas but a win here will be really big for him career wise. He could really break in the US mainstream just like Manny did when he beat the champion Ledwaba.

Why do you find it difficult when Ancajas is the most experience boxer and has a good record compared to Martinez? His opponent may be undefeated but Ancajas had some big fights that he succeeded to win, I would say it's difficult for Martinez not for Ancajas as we know who is the favorite to win here.

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Quote from: yazher on December 30, 2021, 11:12:06 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on December 30, 2021, 07:52:56 PM

Yes it did turn out to inspire other filipino boxers to take the same path and now we are seeing those potential ones who could potentially go on the same step on that Pacquiao had achieved
even though its still too far to consider out but having these small steps would really progress out.

Maybe he is considering following the step of the champion legends who were defeating every champion in their respective weight division while climbing to the top just like Manny Pacquiao did when he started to beat Ledwaba in his first fight in the USA. Ancajas have some similarities with Pacquiao and if he trains hard and works for his new technique that would surprise his opponent and break their defense, he might become one of the great boxers in history. But that will require a massive amount of effort and dedication to making it come true.

Of course, every boxers from the Philippines uses Manny Pacquiao as their inspirations. How many Filipino boxers or at least how's the boxing community in the Philippines exploded after Pacquiao breaks into the scene? And up to know new boxers are looking at him because of his accomplishments. But this fight is really difficult for Ancajas but a win here will be really big for him career wise. He could really break in the US mainstream just like Manny did when he beat the champion Ledwaba.

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Quote from: Mahanton on December 31, 2021, 03:10:57 AM

Quote from: yazher on December 30, 2021, 11:12:06 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on December 30, 2021, 07:52:56 PM

Yes it did turn out to inspire other filipino boxers to take the same path and now we are seeing those potential ones who could potentially go on the same step on that Pacquiao had achieved
even though its still too far to consider out but having these small steps would really progress out.

Maybe he is considering following the step of the champion legends who were defeating every champion in their respective weight division while climbing to the top just like Manny Pacquiao did when he started to beat Ledwaba in his first fight in the USA. Ancajas have some similarities with Pacquiao and if he trains hard and works for his new technique that would surprise his opponent and break their defense, he might become one of the great boxers in history. But that will require a massive amount of effort and dedication to making it come true.

Nothing is assured when it comes to future but basing on what we are currently seeing on how Ancajas do well on his career then we could somewhat tell that he does have the potential.
All the thing he do needs is to persevere and do his best as a he could and making out big moves on his career specially on dominating each division and might able to achieve
on what Pacquiao did. Of course this one wont be easy but it wont be impossible and its not bad to have this kind of goal or mindset.
Therefore all things he do need is to put up extreme effort on achieving that.

The potential is there no doubt, actually there are a lot of good Filipino boxers in the past, they all have the potential, however when it comes to big stages, they always feel short until Manny Pacquiao come and everyone wanted to become Manny.

As he truly inspired a lot of Filipino boxers to follow his path. But everyone is very different, I don't think that Ancajas can rally and go up in weight many times. So for now he needs to concentrate on this division and clean it up and beating everyone including the American Gary Russell.

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Quote from: yazher on December 30, 2021, 11:12:06 PM

Quote from: Mahanton on December 30, 2021, 07:52:56 PM

Yes it did turn out to inspire other filipino boxers to take the same path and now we are seeing those potential ones who could potentially go on the same step on that Pacquiao had achieved
even though its still too far to consider out but having these small steps would really progress out.

Maybe he is considering following the step of the champion legends who were defeating every champion in their respective weight division while climbing to the top just like Manny Pacquiao did when he started to beat Ledwaba in his first fight in the USA. Ancajas have some similarities with Pacquiao and if he trains hard and works for his new technique that would surprise his opponent and break their defense, he might become one of the great boxers in history. But that will require a massive amount of effort and dedication to making it come true.

Nothing is assured when it comes to future but basing on what we are currently seeing on how Ancajas do well on his career then we could somewhat tell that he does have the potential.
All the thing he do needs is to persevere and do his best as a he could and making out big moves on his career specially on dominating each division and might able to achieve
on what Pacquiao did. Of course this one wont be easy but it wont be impossible and its not bad to have this kind of goal or mindset.
Therefore all things he do need is to put up extreme effort on achieving that.

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Quote from: Mahanton on December 30, 2021, 07:52:56 PM

Yes it did turn out to inspire other filipino boxers to take the same path and now we are seeing those potential ones who could potentially go on the same step on that Pacquiao had achieved
even though its still too far to consider out but having these small steps would really progress out.

Maybe he is considering following the step of the champion legends who were defeating every champion in their respective weight division while climbing to the top just like Manny Pacquiao did when he started to beat Ledwaba in his first fight in the USA. Ancajas have some similarities with Pacquiao and if he trains hard and works for his new technique that would surprise his opponent and break their defense, he might become one of the great boxers in history. But that will require a massive amount of effort and dedication to making it come true.

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Quote from: Oasisman on December 30, 2021, 07:12:48 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on December 29, 2021, 05:43:51 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 29, 2021, 10:15:28 AM

Filipino boxers are starting to be popular like Mexican fighters, so this is good for us and thanks to Pacman who started it all and supporting the young boxers.

We are heading to that journey but Filipinos are normally smaller than Mexicans so we will just probably reight in a lighter division, only Pacman is an exemption because he is the only 8th division champion who beats the biggest Mexicans in boxing. I think it's already enough to see some Filipino champions reigning in different lighter divisions.

Filipinos were popular even before Pacman reigns in the boxing industry. I remember Luisito Espinosa as a mexicutioner as well (but not as much as Manny), and the very popular Flash Elorde, including Peñalosa and Navarette. Those were some of the popular boxers before Pacman.
Pacquiao didn't actually started it all, instead he made it more resounding to the world of boxing.
Pacquiao is on a different level to the majority of the Filipino boxers and he's the inspiration to the rising filipino boxers including Ancajas.

There are lots of Filipino boxing legends but most of them did really just stop and didnt tend to go for more belts on different divisions on which Pacquiao did and what makes him more popular and been known.
Yes it did turn out to inspire other filipino boxers to take the same path and now we are seeing those potential ones who could potentially go on the same step on that Pacquiao had achieved
even though its still too far to consider out but having these small steps would really progress out.

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Quote from: Oasisman on December 30, 2021, 07:12:48 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on December 29, 2021, 05:43:51 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 29, 2021, 10:15:28 AM

Filipino boxers are starting to be popular like Mexican fighters, so this is good for us and thanks to Pacman who started it all and supporting the young boxers.

We are heading to that journey but Filipinos are normally smaller than Mexicans so we will just probably reight in a lighter division, only Pacman is an exemption because he is the only 8th division champion who beats the biggest Mexicans in boxing. I think it's already enough to see some Filipino champions reigning in different lighter divisions.

Filipinos were popular even before Pacman reigns in the boxing industry. I remember Luisito Espinosa as a mexicutioner as well (but not as much as Manny), and the very popular Flash Elorde, including Peñalosa and Navarette. Those were some of the popular boxers before Pacman.
Pacquiao didn't actually started it all, instead he made it more resounding to the world of boxing.
Pacquiao is on a different level to the majority of the Filipino boxers and he's the inspiration to the rising filipino boxers including Ancajas.

The strategy of this two player was totally different from each others.Still they make a unique techniques to win a game in a very short period.Filipinos is good player then a Pacman.It doesn't mean, I don't like him.But the impressive techniques made them good boxer then other person.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 29, 2021, 05:43:51 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 29, 2021, 10:15:28 AM

Filipino boxers are starting to be popular like Mexican fighters, so this is good for us and thanks to Pacman who started it all and supporting the young boxers.

We are heading to that journey but Filipinos are normally smaller than Mexicans so we will just probably reight in a lighter division, only Pacman is an exemption because he is the only 8th division champion who beats the biggest Mexicans in boxing. I think it's already enough to see some Filipino champions reigning in different lighter divisions.

Filipinos were popular even before Pacman reigns in the boxing industry. I remember Luisito Espinosa as a mexicutioner as well (but not as much as Manny), and the very popular Flash Elorde, including Peñalosa and Navarette. Those were some of the popular boxers before Pacman.
Pacquiao didn't actually started it all, instead he made it more resounding to the world of boxing.
Pacquiao is on a different level to the majority of the Filipino boxers and he's the inspiration to the rising filipino boxers including Ancajas.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 29, 2021, 11:27:51 PM

In any case, still this is a big test for Ancajas as others have pointed out and he shouldn't overlook Martinez because he is undefeated with good KO percentage.

That would be Ancajas biggest mistake if he take Martinez for granted, I mean he should not overlook him because the guy is undefeated and for sure he also has some talent to show to the boxing community.

This is a good thing that even though the Ioka-Ancajas fight was canceled but the promoter of Ancajas is quick enough to seek another opponent for him to be busy next year.

Speaking of Ioka, he still fights this new years eve in Japan with another opponent, Ryoji Fukunaga but odds for this fight is not yet on the online bookies thus far.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 30, 2021, 11:57:51 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on December 29, 2021, 11:27:51 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on December 29, 2021, 05:43:51 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 29, 2021, 10:15:28 AM

Filipino boxers are starting to be popular like Mexican fighters, so this is good for us and thanks to Pacman who started it all and supporting the young boxers.

We are heading to that journey but Filipinos are normally smaller than Mexicans so we will just probably reight in a lighter division, only Pacman is an exemption because he is the only 8th division champion who beats the biggest Mexicans in boxing. I think it's already enough to see some Filipino champions reigning in different lighter divisions.

I think boxing has been in-grain in Filipino blood, we have been campaigning since the beginning of boxing, Filipino's like Pancho Villa and others and then we have Pacquiao. The difference is that Mexico has a good amateur boxing as compare to Filipinos that's why they produce a lot of champions.

In any case, still this is a big test for Ancajas as others have pointed out and he shouldn't overlook Martinez because he is undefeated with good KO percentage.

Yes, he is still undefeated but look at these fights (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/809729), those are not big fights and it's his first time to fight in the US while Jerwin Ancajas has fought many times in the US already.

martinez is undefeated even if we say most of his fights are not big. so ancajas should not take this lightly. and every boxer should not really take for granted their every fight. prepare as if there's no tomorrow. i believe that's the reason why pacquiao went after fight after fight and made his name. he did really put his all once inside the ring because he fought toe-to-toe whether he had big or small opponent.
now, these filipino boxers are on the limelight whether they can follow pacquiao's footsteps or make their own name inside the ring.

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Quote from: Kemarit on December 29, 2021, 11:27:51 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on December 29, 2021, 05:43:51 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 29, 2021, 10:15:28 AM

Filipino boxers are starting to be popular like Mexican fighters, so this is good for us and thanks to Pacman who started it all and supporting the young boxers.

We are heading to that journey but Filipinos are normally smaller than Mexicans so we will just probably reight in a lighter division, only Pacman is an exemption because he is the only 8th division champion who beats the biggest Mexicans in boxing. I think it's already enough to see some Filipino champions reigning in different lighter divisions.

I think boxing has been in-grain in Filipino blood, we have been campaigning since the beginning of boxing, Filipino's like Pancho Villa and others and then we have Pacquiao. The difference is that Mexico has a good amateur boxing as compare to Filipinos that's why they produce a lot of champions.

In any case, still this is a big test for Ancajas as others have pointed out and he shouldn't overlook Martinez because he is undefeated with good KO percentage.

Yes, he is still undefeated but look at these fights (https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/809729), those are not big fights and it's his first time to fight in the US while Jerwin Ancajas has fought many times in the US already.

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Quote from: Russlenat on December 29, 2021, 05:43:51 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 29, 2021, 10:15:28 AM

Filipino boxers are starting to be popular like Mexican fighters, so this is good for us and thanks to Pacman who started it all and supporting the young boxers.

We are heading to that journey but Filipinos are normally smaller than Mexicans so we will just probably reight in a lighter division, only Pacman is an exemption because he is the only 8th division champion who beats the biggest Mexicans in boxing. I think it's already enough to see some Filipino champions reigning in different lighter divisions.

I think boxing has been in-grain in Filipino blood, we have been campaigning since the beginning of boxing, Filipino's like Pancho Villa and others and then we have Pacquiao. The difference is that Mexico has a good amateur boxing as compare to Filipinos that's why they produce a lot of champions.

In any case, still this is a big test for Ancajas as others have pointed out and he shouldn't overlook Martinez because he is undefeated with good KO percentage.

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Quote from: Silberman on December 29, 2021, 06:47:41 PM

Quote from: Russlenat on December 29, 2021, 05:43:51 PM

Quote from: Hypnosis00 on December 29, 2021, 10:15:28 AM

Filipino boxers are starting to be popular like Mexican fighters, so this is good for us and thanks to Pacman who started it all and supporting the young boxers.

We are heading to that journey but Filipinos are normally smaller than Mexicans so we will just probably reight in a lighter division, only Pacman is an exemption because he is the only 8th division champion who beats the biggest Mexicans in boxing. I think it's already enough to see some Filipino champions reigning in different lighter divisions.

Without a doubt boxers from the Philippines got a huge push on their popularity thanks to Manny Pacquiao, however there are many reasons why Mexican boxers are popular as well, and the most obvious one is that there is a huge Mexican community on the US which supports them no matter what, this means that when there is a fight scheduled on the US and one of the fighters is Mexican then most of the time the public will be on their side, besides we need to recognize that the Mexican school of boxing produces great fighters every single year.

We can't beat them in terms of popularity but we are happy to see some boxers in PH are getting a good promoter that brings them a good opportunity to fight abroad. Magsayo and Casimero are good examples, they choose to fight abroad and they land a great promoter that could bring them big fight and if they'll continue to work hard for their dreams, for sure soon we will see another world champion that will make all the Filipinos proud.

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